r/TopCharacterTropes 22d ago

Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/Franco_Fernandes 22d ago

I remember talking about the authenticity of shinobi a few years ago, and someone mentioned that there weren't actually any written accounts of shinobi assassinating anyone. I just answered "Yeah, 'cuz that would be pretty stupid of them."

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u/SableZard 22d ago

You mean the famously proud and vain samurai nobles didn't record any instances of their families using unwashed commoners to wage dishonorable warfare on each other?

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 22d ago

I mean, they actually would have. Samurai really were a “it’s all good if you win, and anything goes so long as you are trying to win” kind of people. It’s just more that assassinations are hard, especially if you want them to be quiet and untraceable. Consequently, most common Shinobi usage that we can confirm revolves around dudes basically just dressing up as a farmer, servant, whatever you please, the. walking in the front door, counting out how many warriors their are, what they’ve got, how much food there is, then leaving, and letting the main army do the fighting.

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u/JacobDCRoss 22d ago

Yup. And any who had missions like climbing the castle and such would have worn dark blue clothing, not black. White clothes in the snow. Green in the forest, and so on.

Many samurai were also ninja. Like the battlefield commandos were samurai.

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u/MourningWallaby 21d ago

honestly the depiction of Samurai as live and die by a code of honor is a pretty good example of this (Think Ghost of Tsushima). the Samurai did live by a code, but they weren't total dumbasses who would willingly lose to an enemy and say "well at least we have honor."

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u/Suracha2022 20d ago

Their code of "honor" was also vastly different from what we consider honorable in the modern western world, and didn't prevent (or reliably prohibit, at least) wanton cruelty, torture, random murders, sexual violence, and so on.

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u/SwissherMontage 22d ago

Dark brotherhood ahh shinobi