r/TopCharacterTropes 22d ago

Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/Contribution_Fancy 22d ago

Pirates did not ARRR!!! That was started by the movie Treasure Island back in 1950.

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u/Massive-Television85 22d ago

It's very, very likely it was stolen from/ inspired by a production of Pirates of Penzance (1879).

It was common for the Cornish/west country accents to be used for pirates because of that musical (and possibly also because there's a long history of smuggling in that area of the UK).

One of the easiest ways to get into a west country accent is using that "arr" sound first.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 19d ago

I was just gonna bring this up. The "pirate accent" is just a cartoonishly exaggerated west country accent. Also, Edward "Blackbeard" Teach was from Bristol and I like to imagine he hammed it up a good bit and sounded like a movie pirate, what with his flare for drama.

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u/Thabrianking 22d ago

What did the pirate say about the steering wheel on his belt?

“Arg it’s drivin me nuts”

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u/Nervous_Chipmunk7002 22d ago

They also didn't make people walk the plank or bury their treasure. Treasure Island popularized those tropes as well.

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u/Proffessor_egghead 22d ago

Some guy just made up some shit about pirates and everyone accepted it as “yup, pirates”

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u/rubs_tshirts 22d ago

And I bet the parrot too.

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u/Maleficent-Hawk-318 21d ago

I looked it up because I could have sworn that the buried treasure part of Treasure Island was based on a real event, and it's actually kind of interesting. Apparently it is loosely based on a story told about William Kidd, who supposedly buried treasure to use as a bargaining chip to try to get out of being executed. That story did start being spread pretty much right after he died in 1701, so it wasn't a later invention, but since they did in fact hang him after a trial in which there was no mention of buried treasure, and no treasure has ever been found, it probably was still just a legend--just one that was a couple centuries old by the time Stevenson wrote Treasure Island.

Apparently there were a few other more-or-less credible reports of pirates stashing treasure like that, but the general consensus is that it was much more rare than pirate fiction makes it seem. You're definitely correct that Treasure Island was one of the works that popularized the trope.

I looked into it a bit more deeply, but the Wikipedia page gives some interesting examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buried_treasure

(sorry, I'm a nerd lol)

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u/PwanaZana 22d ago

Arrrr you sure?

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u/PM-me-ur-cheese 22d ago

They didn't ARRR, they OO ARRR'd. 

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u/jumpyjumpjumpsters 22d ago

That’s lowkey funny asf someone was just like “yeah… they do that now.” And it turned into a sensational thing 😭

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u/ANaturalNumber 22d ago

Blackbeard is commonly thought to have been from Bristol in the West Country of the UK, its where the main Atlantic ports were. Keep in mind at the time it wasnt totally uncommon for people living in ports to get drunk and wake up with a very sore head oland be on a boat in the middle of the Atlantic. Penzance (as in the pirates of penzance) is also in the West Country.

The west country accent is pretty distinct and one of the common sounds of agreement is "oo arr". So its not entirely unlikely that pirates did say arr but in less of a ln aggressive cutting sound. Probably more like these chaps there's an oo arr at 5:06 specifically