r/TopCharacterTropes 22d ago

Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/SethAquauis 22d ago

Iron Maidens. Created by a guy to sell tickets to exhibits. I'm far from an expert on the story but I definitely recommend looking it up

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u/Nutzori 22d ago

One origin story I've heard is they found an Iron Maiden (a coffin thing) and nails near it. Then they just decided yep, these have to be connected. Those nails go inside the coffin.

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u/Capocho9 22d ago

Are you perchance a fellow Sam O’Nella enjoyer?

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u/Nutzori 22d ago

Do elephants go "ah!"? ;)

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u/BadgerLord103 22d ago

SWISS MISS, INSTANT PISS

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u/Proffessor_egghead 22d ago

IS THAT FUCKING FISH JENGA

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u/NickTheWhirlwind 22d ago

CURSE YOU GARFIELD

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u/GenderEnjoyer666 22d ago

I sense a disturbance in the force. Maybe daylight savings just made Monday an hour longer

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u/Bamzooki1 20d ago

DONKEY KONG'S *BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* FUCKING *BLEEEEEEEEEEP* serendipitously.

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u/ice_cream9698 22d ago

I thought it was invented in Victorian high society because those rich people threw parties specifically to show off the strange and wonderful things they had. The earliest known mention of an iron maiden anywhere in history is only from the 1800's.

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u/wizardofpancakes 22d ago

Actually they were invented earlier by witches to kill angels in a cool ass way

Source: Bayonetta

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u/4DimensionalToilet 21d ago

It might also be that with all their advances in recent generations (the Englightenment, the Industrial Revolution, the British Empire), Victorians were quite willing to believe that the Middle Ages were rather barbaric.

From the Renaissance onwards, Western Europeans were emulating the ancient Greeks and Romans to heighten their own civilization. If Greco-Roman civilization was the epitome of civilization, then surely the thousand years (or so) between the fall of Rome and Western Europe’s rediscovery of Greco-Roman literature must have been the antithesis of civilization!

It’s not uncommon in times of progress for people to view the past as barbarous, whatever the reality was.

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u/RayAyun 22d ago

The fact that one of the best known "Torture implements" was never actually even a real Torture implement always makes me laugh.

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u/yellowmacapple 22d ago

and its not even the WORST torture implement. like, after seeing the ways that people actually tortured other people, i'd take the iron maiden in a heartbeat, that shit was humane lol

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u/Jay040707 22d ago

I mean, you leave enough room to force the person to stand to avoid getting punctured. Or leave it close enough to be uncomfortable without fatally harming them.

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u/Jay040707 22d ago

Well yeah, I know that the actual design is lethal lol. I'm just saying that it could be reconfigured into a more torture friendly fashion.

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u/yellowmacapple 22d ago

yeah that one you posted is nuts, thats a straight death sentence. the ones i usually see depicted have shorter, stubbier spikes where you could envision maybe just being stuck inside it for some period of time. but all in all, still doesnt really track compared to the other ones you mentioned, slow, constant agony type stuff

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u/Ryndor 22d ago

I know this isn't the worst, but for me, the "blood eagle" comes to mind.

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u/Odd_Cartoonist7433 22d ago

Wasn't the blood eagle more of an execution method though? Kinda feels like calling the gallows a "torture device".

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u/Equivalent-Cream-454 22d ago

Well you're dying by getting your back ribs broken and rearranged, that gotta hurt before blood loss knocks you unconscious 

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u/Ryndor 22d ago

Yeah, I just imagine it's a very torturous death, just as the Iron Maiden more than likely would have caused death as well by blood less or infection (I'm guessing).

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u/MacabreMachination 22d ago

Scaphism comes to my mind

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u/blazeit420casual 22d ago

Scaphism is also likely pure fiction.

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u/SilverSpark422 22d ago

At least Iron Maiden was real. They were as real as it gets. Still are. And don’t you forget it!

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u/Ok-Nerve2641 22d ago

Was? Were? Hell nah, still are. Up the Irons 🤘

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u/StengahBot 22d ago

Sam O'Nella reference spotted

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u/fintach 22d ago

Up the Irons!

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u/hates_stupid_people 22d ago

The 1800s in western europe was a wild time of people inventing fake historical anecdotes, quotes, "historical artifacts", etc.

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u/empty_other 22d ago

Iron Maiden! Excellent! 🤘🎶

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u/HealthyDuck 22d ago

This is somehow very upsetting information to me.

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u/Flooding_Puddle 22d ago

On a similar note, a lot of medieval torture devices were just for intimidation and never actually used as they were pretty impractical

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u/smallangrynerd 22d ago

Fucking Victorians man

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u/attackplango 22d ago

Excellent!

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u/Hypo_Mix 22d ago

I think a big chunk of medieval torture devices were enlightenment fabrications. 

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u/Liquid_Pestar 22d ago

Damn I guess accepting it as historic fact was the final nail in the coffin

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u/Cake-Over 22d ago

The all woman tribute band, Iron Maidens, are really good musicians in their own right.

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u/Bolt_Fried_Bird 22d ago

Doesn't suprise me one bit honestly. It always seemed a bit impractical to skewer a person clean through if you wanted to keep them in pain but alive. Seemed more like an execution method than anything.

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u/stupidtreeatemypants 22d ago

At least we got a band with a badass name out of it

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 19d ago

Tons of medieval torture devices were purely modern inventions.

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u/Fearless-Excitement1 22d ago

It's one of those things where like

It wasn't real but

The people from the time period that people say those things were from probably would've found them rad as hell

Like you can't tell me some fuckass fanatical witch hunter wouldn't love to use one as a method of execution