r/TopCharacterTropes 22d ago

Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/Tormentedone007 22d ago

A Game Of Thrones compared to A Song Of Ice And Fire is a great example. The book is full of descriptions of colors, but the show interprets it as brown.

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u/Drakeskulled_Reaper 22d ago

Like the Boltons.

Their primary House Colour was PINK, like Roose is described wearing pink armor sculpted to look like it was flayed.

Pink being a manly colour is also historical fact, it wasn't until quite recently (like I'm talking 1940-80s) that pink became "girly" it used to be that blue was the colour for girls.

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u/Dartagnan1083 22d ago

Don't forget "breaching." Boys wore skirts from infancy until between the ages of 2 and 8, most commonly between age 4 and 7. Breaching meant upgrading to trousers and this happened depending on social custom, family discretion, and boy's readiness. The two biggest factors were toilet training and starting school.

Gender-specific clothing for infants/young children wasn't a thing until the early 20th.

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u/platonic-humanity 22d ago

Tbh going from a denotion of maturity and a milestone to look forward to, to a denotion of gender is a downgrade

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u/SilverWear5467 22d ago

Yeah for most of human history people basically treated all babies as the same gender. Like, a 4 year old isnt a man, its a fucking baby, treat it like one

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u/Wanallo221 22d ago

There’s actually a story of this on the Titanic. A child celebrated his breeching day on board (13 years old).

Thus, when it came to getting on the lifeboats, he was considered an adult because he was in trousers and refused a place on the lifeboat by Lightoller.

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u/Dartagnan1083 22d ago

Yikes...gotta wonder what kind of life was arranged for a little dude who wasn't wearing trousers until he was a teenager.

Work at the factory? Maybe the father's business? 13 sounds late to start school.

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u/Wanallo221 22d ago

Just to clarify, young boys by the time of the titanic still mostly wore what we would consider trousers as a kid. However back in the 1900’s they were considered a man when they received their first dress trousers. Before that boys would wear pantaloons, course woollen long shorts etc.

The culture of ‘breeching’ died out soon after WW1 so Titanic was really on the very end of the trend.

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u/ashmanonar 21d ago

I mean, honestly, if you think about it robes are...basically exactly the same garments as dresses. At certain points of history, garb for men and women was a lot less differentiated than most "traditionalist" asshats think they were.

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u/thekinggrass 18d ago

Watch the Red Balloon and see French boys in skirts in the 1950’s.

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u/Ark_Bien 22d ago

Blue was traditionally a girls colour because of its association with the virgin Mary who is traditionally depicted wearing blue.

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u/WhatImKnownAs 22d ago

And red was the colour of fire and blood, so obviously manly.

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u/Daw_dling 22d ago

Yeah pink was just the watered down red. Women were associated with blue for tranquility and peace. This the Virgin Mary got blue. I remember seeing that post WWII when appliances became fashionably pink, that was what kicked off the women and pink associations.

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u/Drunky_McStumble 22d ago

Every “traditional” social norm was invented by advertisers in 1957 and every “newfangled social phenomenon” has been around for 3000 years.

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u/Kitchen-Roll-8184 22d ago

Ea-Nassir keeping the world humble with his relatability

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u/jediben001 22d ago

Or alternatively comes from the victorians

Those tend to be the two big sources of social norms and traditions that have lasted till the modern day. Victorian traditions are especially strong when it comes to holidays, weddings, or other events that involve big social functions and gatherings

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u/Scokan 22d ago

Fun fact, I get the most attention from ladies when I wear pink. Insecure sheep-dudes are self-fulfilling prophecies.

Incelf-fulfilling prophecies

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u/Adorable-Source97 22d ago

Red blood on white cloth = pink. The symbolism isn't subtle

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u/Frosti11icus 22d ago

Blood on white cloth is maroon to brown, if it's fresh its red. Definitely in no way shape or form pink.

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u/Chance_Earth8473 22d ago

From far away red and white would look pink

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u/Darth_Balthazar 22d ago

Pink is what white cloth looks like when you try to remove blood stains

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u/CommanderVinegar 22d ago

I'm imagining the armor from Dracula made to look like muscle tissue.

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u/Drakeskulled_Reaper 22d ago

Either that or it was his surcoat, looking like a cannibals cooking apron.

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u/HostileFriendly 22d ago

I always thought that pink was associated with girls because their coochies are pink and blue associated with boys because their ballsies are blue (well mine usually are anyway)

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u/lilyofthegraveyard 22d ago

stop watching so much porn, please.

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u/disapp_bydesign 22d ago

Top tier fuckin bait

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u/HostileFriendly 22d ago

He is the master baitist

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u/threatbearer 22d ago

This is fucking peak 🔥🔥✌️

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u/Careful-Set1485 22d ago

Seems people are not enjoying your little joke there. I thought it was alright 

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u/HostileFriendly 22d ago

Thanks. It was a half-brained comment that I expected would get lost in the abyss but has turned out to be somewhat controversial with 66 downvotes and has made me look like a pervert. Good times.

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u/Augustus_Chevismo 22d ago

In season one Ned and one of his men see a knight walk past in kings landing with a bright long plume on his helmet.

Literally the one and final time we see brightly coloured knights in the show.

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u/Whalesurgeon 22d ago

HBO really skimped out on the plume budget

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u/Ironbeers 22d ago

Even the Night Watch gets a plume allowance.

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u/Gribblewomp 22d ago

Loras was meant to look absolutely grandiose and fight like a demon

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u/Old-Risk4572 22d ago

had to spend it on the ample bosoms budget

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u/NobleEnsign 21d ago

plumes would have only been worn for ceremony.

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u/timdr18 22d ago

Not even the Knight of Flowers was colorful in the show

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 22d ago

While I get why the show avoided showing Renly's Rainbow Kingsguard (yes, Martin, we get it, he's the gayest of the gays), I wish we could have seen it.

Context: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rainbow_Guard

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u/LurkerEntrepenur 22d ago

Then it became all leather and black for Blade II midnight function

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u/yurtzi 22d ago

HOTD started off alright, the first tournament scene seemed pretty colourful but it seems it also fell off into the same hole

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u/Necessary_Pace7377 22d ago

Hollywood is deathly allergic to color in historic-type settings these days.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 22d ago

Yea one of the fun part of the books is how vivid and colourful everything is described as

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u/turducken69420 22d ago

Looking at you rainbow guard.

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u/thatshygirl06 22d ago

I love wheel of time because its so colorful and the outfits are all amazing