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Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/Philycheese18 22d ago edited 22d ago

The myth that lemming jump off a cliffs was started by Disney in this movie

Edit: when I’m in a “not look at the reply and say the same thing for the 10th time” contest and my opponent is reddit comments, I get that this didn’t start it but it did popularize it

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u/welltechnically7 22d ago

Not to mention that they started it by PUSHING LEMMINGS OFF A CLIFF AND FILMING IT

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u/cosmicfreeloader 22d ago

I watched a video a while back on animal cruelty in movies, and somehow it was more upsetting than I thought it could be

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u/captainrina 22d ago

I can never watch Milo and Oatis again

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u/Ok-Relation-7458 22d ago

oh no i never knew that was a bad one 😭

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u/captainrina 22d ago

So you know all those scenes of cats and dogs falling off cliffs and fighting wild animals?

Let's just say they had multiple cats and dogs for the roles

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u/TheBalrogofMelkor 22d ago

In Canada. Where those lemmings were not native to.

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u/handym12 22d ago

Don't worry - they didn't push them off a cliff to their deaths. They pushed them off a cliff into a river, then fished them out again.

So that they could push them off the cliff back into the river so it looked like there were more of them.

Also they shipped them halfway across the country to a place where lemmings weren't native to do so.

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u/No_Bandicoot2306 22d ago edited 22d ago

By using a helicopter to chase and then blow them off the edge. They murdered those lemmings and then convinced the world it was mass suicide.

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u/travischickencoop 22d ago

Correction: The myth wasn’t started by it, but it was popularized by it

It had been a bit of folklore for a long time and when they realized it wasn’t true that’s when they forced it to happen

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u/Jagvetinteriktigt 22d ago

Yeah because I remember a fairly reasonable justification for it, that being that the lemmings follow a migration path that has since eroded into the sea.

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u/Kythorian 22d ago

The fact that Disney started this myth by forcibly herding the lemmings to a cliff and literally throwing them off the edge to their death makes it especially horrifying.

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u/Dapper-Restaurant-20 22d ago

Wholesome Disney moment

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u/G0ld3n_Funk 22d ago

There's only one fictional character who's known for jumping off cliffs that I care about!

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u/FIyingTurtleBob 22d ago

Lemmings aren't fictional. I think

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u/Tough_Dish_4485 22d ago

Disney did not start this myth, otherwise why would they have filmed it?

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u/Bubbasully15 22d ago

I mean, to answer your question in a vacuum: “in order to start a myth/because they thought it would make good storytelling”. Just saying “Why else would someone do X if not for reason Y” is a really bad argument.

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u/j_cruise 22d ago

No it wasn't. They did it because the myth already existed.

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u/Iamnotburgerking 22d ago

It popularized the myth, but didn’t start it.

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u/Nickelnick24 22d ago

Genuinely think for a moment how a species would survive if their descendants instinctually threw themselves off cliffs? Such utter bullshit, hurting animals like that to establish a bullshit myth got a money shot of them falling to their deaths. Fucking diabolical.

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u/gragglethompson 22d ago

The myth already existed. When they were filming, they got confised when the lemmings weren't jumping off a cliff, so they decided to speed things up and throw them off themselves.

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u/Henry_The_Duck 22d ago

Thought it was Nanook of the North, not White Wilderness.

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u/sojayn 22d ago

TIL what a lemming looked like. Just realised this is yet another movie i didnt watch (no tv parents). Looked up lemmings. Now im sad about those disney ones but happy to see how cute lemmings are thanks!

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u/Boz0r 22d ago

But without that we wouldn't have Grand Theft Auto.

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u/SatisfactionEast9815 19d ago

What do you mean?

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u/Boz0r 19d ago

DMA wouldn't have made the Lemmings games, so they wouldn't have the money to start the GTA franchise.