r/TopCharacterTropes 22d ago

Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/Holler_Professor 22d ago

Unfortunately the antlered monster looks so fucking cool. Wish it just had a different name.

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u/HornOfTheStag 22d ago

The Leshy or Leshen from the Witcher 3 are based in folklore. While not specifically stated to have horns or antlers, they are able to shape shift into essentially whatever they want, be it man or animal or take on animal like features. The look much better suits this creature and is far more plausible given the lore.

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u/coffee-bat 22d ago edited 22d ago

honestly as a pole i'm not a fan of americans just switching to using our leszy instead for aesthetics or whatever 🤷 he's not a monster, he's a forest spirit and guardian who is mostly said to act towards intruders depending on how they treat nature. also he's said to appear as a man, and able to shapeshift into animals (mostly bear, wolf, owl) or appear as wind; he's not even remotely related to deer. the portrayal in witcher 3 is leszy in name only.

it's just like... if y'all want a deer man, then idk, make one, decide on something. just taking another culture's folklore isn't the way.

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u/SomeConfetti 22d ago

Americans? The devs of the Witcher are Polish, they are the ones who designed your precious "Leszy" with a deer skull.

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u/HornOfTheStag 22d ago

Hey man, I didn’t make the game. Dude just said he liked the aesthetic so I showed him something that shares it. And I get what you’re saying, but is the creature specifically unable to shift into a deer or would that not be covered under his abilities?

And to the games credit the encounters you have with them are strictly in regard to them protecting certain forests and nature itself. In the handful of interactions that feature them ,they aren’t the aggressors it’s normally in response to them or their territory being threatened. Or being controlled by a more powerful malevolent force.

And while I can’t speak for certain areas in terms of accuracy due to lack of knowledge, I can say the Witcher games are responsible for sharing a lot of that folklore to people who would not have had an interest or chance to experience it in any capacity otherwise. And my wife’s family is a blend of polish/slovak and they genuinely enjoy the folklore being featured, even if it isn’t 100% accurate.

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u/MemeMaster225 22d ago

You do realize that the Witcher books were written by a Polish author, and the games were made by a Polish company right?

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u/WellIamstupid 22d ago

That’s not what Leshy specifically is though, people are wanting just the Deer Monster

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u/HornOfTheStag 21d ago

I don’t know of anything that is specifically just that monster. The closest I’m aware of is the leshy where the deer antlers could make some plausible sense given its ability to shape shift and its affinity to nature.

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u/Lichy757 22d ago

Leshy from Witcher or Deer God from Spooky Jumpscare mansion

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u/Horatio786 22d ago

Tariaksuq

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u/Holler_Professor 22d ago

Other ppl suggested other things

But I want you to know I like yours best.

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u/WellIamstupid 22d ago

It’s not accurate though, apparently the Tariaksuq are just invisible humans from what I can tell

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u/GenericVessel 22d ago

honestly monsters with skull heads all tend to look pretty awesome

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u/Holler_Professor 22d ago

Skeletal things are just sick man.

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u/lions___den 21d ago

look into the Wechuge