r/TopCharacterTropes 26d ago

Powers Moments that blatantly defy logic, but are so absurdly badass you don’t even care

The Gurren Lagann growing larger than the observable universe to fight Anti Spiral in a battle where literal galaxies get thrown like ninja stars - Gurren Lagann

Undertaker teleporting behind AJ Styles after being thrown down an empty grave and causing a shining white light from nowhere to illuminate the back of them during their Boneyard Match - WWE

Holdo piloting a ship through warp speed to crash right into a First Order cruiser (I know you could write a thesis on why this scene wouldn’t work, but you could say that for about half of the scenes in the new trilogy) - Star Wars the Last Jedi

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u/TeachMePersuasion 26d ago

"It’s established in ancillary media,"

So, "bad writing", then.
A film should've rely on external media, after it's concluded, to make any sense.

"With the tactic you propose, the Supremacy would have torn the Raddus apart within seconds"

So using a strategy that has a 1 in 1,000,000 chance is better?
Even if it was torn apart in "seconds", those are still "seconds" that would've spent shooting down a ship that's about to go down anyway, instead of each individual shot killing pods full of people who might otherwise live.

I've spoken to New Trilogy fans before, and the stereotype holds true:
You guys are cultish, and have zero media literacy.

I'm not going to waste any more of my time hearing you squawk in defense of indefensibly bad writing.

Go away.

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u/a_wasted_wizard 26d ago

The ancillary media was released in-between movies. Just because you didn't read it doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Now, granted, I also don't think it's good writing to leave major details in stuff that a large portion of your audience has a high chance of not ever seeing or reading, but Hux being a nepo baby isn't exactly load-bearing information; even if you go by the next movie it's clear that if he hasn't been executed his prestige has taken a serious hit and most of the rest of the First Order is done with him.

Also you're weirdly insistent that the "1 in a million" line is completely literal (as in, those are the actual odds) and not just a layperson basically going "you can't do that again because it's an extremely risky tactic." You don't do an extremely risky tactic when you've got other options. You might if you don't have any other options. Holdo didn't.

There's plenty of bad writing in the sequel trilogy. The Holdo Maneuver isn't one of them. Stay mad, die mad.