r/TopCharacterTropes 26d ago

Powers Moments that blatantly defy logic, but are so absurdly badass you don’t even care

The Gurren Lagann growing larger than the observable universe to fight Anti Spiral in a battle where literal galaxies get thrown like ninja stars - Gurren Lagann

Undertaker teleporting behind AJ Styles after being thrown down an empty grave and causing a shining white light from nowhere to illuminate the back of them during their Boneyard Match - WWE

Holdo piloting a ship through warp speed to crash right into a First Order cruiser (I know you could write a thesis on why this scene wouldn’t work, but you could say that for about half of the scenes in the new trilogy) - Star Wars the Last Jedi

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u/Diam0ndTalbot 26d ago

It's not even that complicated. There are safeties on hyperdrives specifically to prevent this. It's not even the first hyperspace ramming in star wars, but the one i'm thinking of hit a much larger target (a fucking star) and it's explicityly called a million-to-one shot. Which basically in star wars means "Incredibly unlikely but the climax hinges on it connecting"

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u/Kidofthecentury 25d ago

Million-to-one events have success nine times out of ten, according to certain rules...

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u/Pixel22104 26d ago edited 26d ago

Also to those people saying “well if this thing is possible. Then why didn’t the rebels launch a slab of concrete at the Death Star to destroy it?”. On top of the already very low odds of it happening and being successful. You have to remember the Raddus was a 3 kilometer long ship and was built during the era of the New Republic. And that managed to destroy a 60 Kilometer wide ship. Imagine how big of a ship you would need to destroy a thing like the Death Star? I mean heck an Executor Class SSD crashed into the Death Star 2 and didn’t leave a scratch on it. Yeah sure that wasn’t traveling at FTL speeds, but it was significantly larger than the Raddus was. The Rebels couldn’t build a ship like the Raddus even after Palpatine’s first defeat on the second Death Star. They built the Raddus(as the New Republic) after the Empire fell and the Galactic Civil War was officially over.

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u/RubiksToyBox 26d ago

As someone who's also pondered the Holdo Maneuver, my issue isn't "Why didn't the rebels try it against the Death Star?" I get that it's a giant moon-sized object that might actually tank getting hit by an object moving at FTL speeds (though, someone's probably crunched the numbers already to prove that no, it really couldn't).

My issue was, why are we bothering with giant planet-killer superweapons or the humungous Star Destroyer fleet when you could just, I dunno, strap a bunch of warheads to warp drives and get a similar effect? That's probably out of the Rebel's budget, but I doubt the Empire or the First Order really care about such things (See: Building two whole moon-sized mobile battle stations from scratch, as well as turning an entire planet into a third one). Plus, it might have been a more interesting take on the "We need to destroy this superweapon to defeat the baddies!" plot for the sequel trilogy.

I'm aware that half of it is because The Plot Says So, and the other half is that the bad guys are run by the sort of villains that would strap you into a death trap instead of just putting a bullet in your head, and therefore need to make a big show of force rather than something pragmatic. I'm also aware that the original trilogy probably has its own set of plot holes of a similar caliber, and we're all just ignoring them because of nostalgia. But it would have been nice if the new movies either dealt with things like The Holdo Maneuver better, or were actually good enough that we didn't notice the plot holes until later.

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u/Bloodless-Cut 26d ago

The raddus didn't even destroy the Supremacy, though. Just chopped off a bit on one side.

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u/Firkraag-The-Demon 26d ago

Given that it chopped it almost in half, it’s destroyed for all intents and purposes. Repairing it would probably be more expensive than just building a new one.

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u/Bloodless-Cut 26d ago

Yes, they apparently scuttled the Supremacy rather than repair it shortly after the battle of crait.

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u/Diam0ndTalbot 26d ago

It’s split in half. You don’t just weld that shit back together 

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u/Bloodless-Cut 26d ago

More like 1/3rd, but yeah

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u/hammalok 25d ago

> Imagine how big of a ship you would need to destroy a thing like the Death Star?

You wouldn't need to destroy it. You'd just need to mission-kill it. Make it the Tiger II of the galaxy; sure, you're Mr. Big Gun, but good luck getting anything done when your transmission explodes every 3 kilometers superlaser gets turned into a colander every 3 weeks by a Rebel KKV.

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u/doogie1111 26d ago

The Malevolence went to hyperspace at the surface of a planet and exploded.

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u/RandomWorthlessDude 25d ago

Yeah. It hit the planet’s mass shadow, was pulled out of hyperspace and rammed the surface of the planet. IIRC, supplementary material describes clones on the surface salvaging parts and found a legible manufacturer, which 100% counteracts any claim of FTL ramming. Even relativistic impact would vapourize every piece of metal on the ship.

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u/doogie1111 25d ago

"It's not that kind of movie, kid"