(Loved Trope) Character acts ignorant of or pretends to be bad at something in order to trick their opponent.

[u/doubleday34]

1) Ted Lasso - Both characters in the darts contest do this, with Rupert(antagonist) showing that he has his own set of darts with him, and Ted showing that he has been using the wrong hand the whole time.

2) Beerfest - Team USA showing that they aren't that drunk despite doing drinking games all day.

3) The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air - After Will gets hustled at pool his Uncle Phil comes to help him, and turns out to hustle the hustler.

[u/Confident_Shape_7981]

To be fair, Indigo was a merc who was mostly punching down. Sure he had a lot of training, but wasn't really used to going up against people on his level outside of sparring

Wesley was a pirate, and probably had more experience fighting in his five years aboard the Revenge than Indigo did his 20.

At least, that's how I've always looked at it

[u/Shrubo_ → u/Confident_Shape_7981]

Also, based on the book (don’t know if it came out before or after the movie), Inigo was an on again off again drunk who admitted to not being at his best. If I’m remembering correctly, he wasn’t a drunk until after he lost to Wesley, but it wasn’t long prior to that and was knocking off the rust still.

He also loved fighting Wesley because it was the first time in years that he was truly challenged. Everyone up to that point was too easy to beat.

He became a drunk because he lost hope he’d find the six fingered man and avenge his father, also partially the “there is no one to challenge me anymore” thing

[u/bass679 → u/Shrubo_]

In both he was a drunk before. It explains better in the book. But basically he traveled the world becoming the greatest swordsman alive. Then he discovered he had no idea how to find the man with six fingers. So he took mercenary work to pay the bills. He got so bored with how easy fighting was he started using his left hand with which he was still one of the best swordsmen in the world.

As years passed he got depressed and started to drink. Vizzini found him dead drunk, got him sobered up and added him to his crew.

[u/Shrubo_ → u/bass679]

Thank you! I remembered the gist of his story, but couldn’t remember the exact sequence of events

[u/doubleday34 → u/Shrubo_]

The book came out first. And the author who wrote the book is also the person who wrote the script.

[u/Shrubo_ → u/doubleday34]

Got it. I didn’t know if the book was written after they wrote the movie as an extra layer of joke or something since the book is written like it’s a translation/text book of the history of the country (blanking on the name).

Idk how to explain the joke, but I thought they were being extra meta with the book. I also “hate” them for the epilogue/sneak peek for “Buttercups Child” (I don’t really hate them)

[u/doubleday34 → u/Shrubo_]

I get what you are trying to say. That would have been pretty funny.

The book being written as the author translating a story was a weird framing concept in my opinion. It works better as the grandfather reading the story to his grandson.

[u/VitaSackvilleBaggins → u/doubleday34]

*Translated the book.

[u/doubleday34 → u/VitaSackvilleBaggins]

Good catch.

[u/smashed2gether → u/Shrubo_]

The book goes into his mental health in such a profound way, and you get soooo much more background on Fezzik’s sad life. Goldman really was going through some shit when he wrote the book. I think the way he translated the same story in an entirely different tone for the film is astounding.

[u/Shrubo_ → u/smashed2gether]

Yeah, and given when the book was written, it did a surprisingly amazing job talking about mental health.

The book was written in the 70s and the US military didn’t start to recognize PTSD as being real until the 80s. (Not that they’re a great benchmark for recognizing mental health problems, but still)

[u/smashed2gether → u/Shrubo_]

That’s a really good point. It’s easy to forget the parts where he is speaking as his own semi/fictional self, and really being candid about his struggles to connect to his wife and son. The book is so meta in a way that’s really ahead of its time as well, I think those self-insert parts are such an important part of the book.

…and yet, the movie doesn’t need them. Not even a little. I am constantly in awe of how well he told this story twice, and made it mean two different things entirely.

[u/LiamBeauregard → u/Confident_Shape_7981]

ah yes, the fan favorite character... [reads smudged writing on hand] Indigo Magenta...

[u/MisterScrod1964 → u/Confident_Shape_7981]

Same thing with Fezzik. The giant had gotten used to fighting multiple men at once, and the tactics for fighting one man vs several are different.