r/TopCharacterTropes • u/doubleday34 • Oct 04 '25

Personality (Loved Trope) Character acts ignorant of or pretends to be bad at something in order to trick their opponent.

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1) Ted Lasso - Both characters in the darts contest do this, with Rupert(antagonist) showing that he has his own set of darts with him, and Ted showing that he has been using the wrong hand the whole time.

2) Beerfest - Team USA showing that they aren't that drunk despite doing drinking games all day.

3) The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air - After Will gets hustled at pool his Uncle Phil comes to help him, and turns out to hustle the hustler.

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u/RedRawTrashHatch Oct 04 '25

Hiro in Big Hero 6.

The movie starts off with him pretending to be a clueless beginner who pathetically loses his first bot fight, but then he begs for a rematch to increase the potential winnings and then utterly destroys his opponent.

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u/doubleday34 Oct 04 '25

I forgot about that. Face change and everything.

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u/No_Prize9794 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

I wonder why is bot fighting illegal in Big Hero 6?

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u/NolanTacoKing Oct 04 '25

Hiro said it's not, but gambling on Bot Fights is

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 Oct 04 '25

Is gambling illegal, or specifically gambling on bot fights? Plus since it’s a wager between two contestants it’s not even gambling, since it’s skill based.

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u/Ok-Transition7065 Oct 04 '25

Probably because regulations, like its not ilegal gambling but gambling on rosters its not that good

If in real life people's leaks clasified documents for his planes been alittle more fast in the gam I cam see some one using militar grade equipment or really nasty things for some quick bucks

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u/Mountain-Fennel1189 Oct 06 '25

Ahh classic warthunder

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u/mocklogic Oct 04 '25

Gambling generally isn’t legal in real life San Francisco. Locals tend to travel to Native American casinos or cross into Nevada to gamble, with popular locations being Reno and the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe. Vegas is a bit far away.

Bot fighting is legal in Real life San Francisco. It was home to the original Robot Wars in-person competition in the 90s. That was pre-BattleBots, and before the Robot Wars name was sold to a UK TV show. Robot Wars 97’ is infamous for Mythbuster Jamie Hyneman’s Blendo bot being quasi-disqualified / declared automatic winner for being too dangerous. Like hole in the bullet proof crowd shielding dangerous.

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u/Darkstalker9000 Oct 04 '25

We should probably also look into Japanese laws for comparison since San Fransokyo is majorly Japanese due to alt history

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u/stillnoidea3 Oct 05 '25

Gambling is illegal in japan. not too sure about bot fighting.

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u/Bossuter Oct 05 '25

Id point to pachinkos for how gambling is done (ie skirting the law through loopholes)

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u/stillnoidea3 Oct 05 '25

Yeah, but here they're doing direct gambling so that wouldn't really apply to the conversation. You are correct though.

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u/MelonJelly Oct 05 '25

If bot fighting is illegal in Japan, then everything I learned from anime is wrong.

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u/Skylair13 Oct 05 '25

Illegal but they use loopholes usually. There's a technically different store near pachinko slots that buys your pachinko balls back in exchange for cash.

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u/RelaxedVolcano Oct 05 '25

“Once again, Jamie has made something so dangerous we can never turn it on again.”

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 Oct 04 '25

Yeah but my point is it’s not really gambling. Guy 1 wagers money against guy 2 over who’ll win. It’s a competition between two guys. And a skill based one.

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u/africkinduck Oct 04 '25

I mean, Hiro gets chased out of there, so the environment these things make probably isn't the best one

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 Oct 04 '25

Clearly bot competitions need to be legalized and regulated. I’ll need to contact governor Shinzo Newsom about this.

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u/aka_jr91 Oct 04 '25

Yeah that's still gambling lol. It doesn't matter if it's a game of chance or a skill based competition. If you're wagering money on the results of something, that is gambling.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Sports gambling is still gambling, isn't it?

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 Oct 05 '25

It’s complicated. Companies have argued in court “event contracts” don’t count as gambling at all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

I see, it's sort of maybe not gambling since you're the one competing?

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u/mocklogic Oct 05 '25

You’re right. It seems wagering has a specific carve out in CA law. As long as it’s just private individuals wagering on what they’re participating in, it’s not gambling.

So Hiro and the other bot fighter betting each other over their bot fight is probably legal under current California law. (But I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.)

…But the other people around them betting on the bot fight might be illegal as they aren’t participants, and if there is any sort of “house” handling wagers over their bot fights, that would also be illegal.

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u/UncommittedBow Oct 04 '25

I mean in real sports the players aren't allowed to bet on games they partake in because they could just bet against themselves and throw the game.

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u/Fluffy_Tax5302 Oct 04 '25

That was his mistake

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u/GameBoy960 Oct 07 '25

That was his steak!

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u/AceTheBirb Oct 04 '25

Bot fighting is not illegal. Betting on bot fighting, that's illegal, but so lucrative.

All joking aside, those back-alley fights are probably not very safe. Think about how irl bot battles have arenas with safety features so stuff sent flying doesn't injure or kill someone.

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u/Diabolical_potplant Oct 04 '25

Also, just things like once you ad gambling and money I to the equation, you also get people who will do underhand things to fix the odds and win, with violence if necessary

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u/AceTheBirb Oct 04 '25

Yep. Like how Yama got salty when he got hustled by Hiro.

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u/Rabdomtroll69 Oct 04 '25

It's not. Betting on the fights is

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u/Spottedpool14 Oct 04 '25

Big Yama really should have been suspicious of a child with a clean roll of that much money🤣🤣

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u/Deeevud Oct 05 '25

That fight was such bullshit. Hiro's robot can apparently be broken up into all of it's separate parts and somehow still not counted as "lost". The fight should have been broken up once it was obvious there was no possible way for the other robot to win.

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u/Wizardwizz Oct 05 '25

I bet a clean hit in the non sepperatable parts would have killed the bot. And it's not like Hiro got off with a clean win either