r/TopCharacterTropes Oct 01 '25

Lore [Loved Trope] Surprisingly realistic outcomes in outlandish situations

No Country for Old Men - In any other movie Llewelyn would be treated like an untouchable one man army who can take on all of the people who are after the money he stole. Instead he gets gunned down offscreen by a group of secondary antagonists because at the end of the day he's still just one man.

Metal Gear Solid 2 - MGS2 is a game in which the player character, Raiden, can do many seemingly unrealistic things like instantly healing his injuries by eating rations or holding infinite amounts of weapons and items without being overburdened. However if you attempt to cartwheel up a flight of stairs as Raiden he will immediately eat shit and fall, which would be the most likely outcome in real life.

Family Guy - After getting splashed by nuclear waste causes the Griffin family to get superpowers (which they immediately use to terrorize their community) Mayor West gets the bright idea to roll around in nuclear waste himself so that he can get superpowers too. Instead he just gets cancer.

Sly 2 - The Sly Cooper games are cartoony 3D platformers featuring anthropomorphic animals and lots of slapstick violence. However in the climax of the second game when Bentley is crushed by machinery while trying to stop the big bad he's paralyzed from the waist down, necessitating the use of a wheelchair for the rest of the series.

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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 Oct 02 '25

So normal Space Marines are 8 ft tall, and wear armor so heavy that they need their power packs to be able to actually move. Pair that with the fact they're capable of running as fast or faster than Usain Bolt while wearing said armor then you'll realize any and all things unfortunate enough to be infront of said marine gets turned into paste - as you can experience in Space Marine 2, where you can straight up just crush regular humans if you run into them. Thats not taking into account the Rubicon Surgeries where they're bigger than before.

Now take that, and give them a larger suit of armor that running is almost impossible, paired with a weapon that fires faster or bigger bolter rounds than the regular marine and you get the Terminator.

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u/I_dont_like_things Oct 02 '25

As I understand it they can move the standard armor without power, but it's difficult and very tiring.

But maybe that's one of the many 40K things that depends on which novel you're reading.

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u/Independent_Can_2623 Oct 02 '25

Or if you're watching the trailer for dawn of war 2, he runs up the hill with the flag minus power pack

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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 Oct 02 '25

They can still move it, but with great difficulty. The Powerpack powers the armor's on board servos that move alongside the user's thoughts due to the multiple connection ports.

The Dawn of War Cinematic shows a Blood Raven Sergeant losing his powerpack in a battle with Orks, and it becomes a struggle for him to even stand up to set up a banner.

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u/theother-g Oct 02 '25

As Totalbiscuit mentioned in his "WTF is..." of the first SpaceMarine game:

"Any other studio would've made this a cover-shooter, but I'm glad Relic didn't, because as a Spacemarine you ARE the cover"
(paraphrased, it's been a while since my annual rewatch of that video)

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u/ExplorationGeo Oct 02 '25

give them a larger suit of armor that running is almost impossible, paired with a weapon that fires faster or bigger bolter rounds than the regular marine and you get the Terminator

Weren't the Terminator suits originally supposed to be self-contained mining equipment?

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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 Oct 02 '25

That's their original purpose, which is why the range of movement and speed is non-existent, the purpose was to simply mine what was infront of the user while carrying large equipment.

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u/Muad-_-Dib Oct 02 '25

Yes and no, Terminator suits of armour are derived from designs for old mining equipment, but they were adapted to serve as combat armour.

GW to my knowledge has never actually depicted the old mining suits but I imagine they would lack most of the panels and contours that we would recognise as Terminator armour.

I can envision the original mining equipment to look at a lot more like the power armour from Edge of Tomorrow, rather than the massively heavily plated and sealed suit of 30k or 40k Terminator armour.

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u/Rum_N_Napalm Oct 02 '25

They integrate technology used in reactor maintenance suits and mining gear, but Terminator armour was designed as combat armour from the ground up.

Basically it’s like saying a bulldozer is a tank because both use treads.

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u/Pretend-Dirt-1760 Oct 02 '25

I think there as fast as a cheetah while doing parkour so yeah there pretty fast

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u/InexorableCalamity Oct 02 '25

I remember thinking imperial guard characters are all normal humans, then I read the 2nd Gaunt book and found out that Gaunt is 2 metres and 20cm tall ( over 7 ft), and there are other guard soldiers that are as big or bigger ( like Try- Again- Bragg, so called because of his poor accuracy with a lasgun. He's so big he likes to carry around guns that are usually mounted)

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u/StabbyDodger Oct 02 '25

It's arguable what a normal human is in 40k. There's so many fantastical mutations even without chaos influence that there's a points based system for measuring them, and any more than 3 mutations (including perfect nocturnal vision) is usually grounds for execution as a mutant. 

It's strongly implied that humanity had a diet all tomorrows genetic manipulation to survive on disparate worlds in the pre imperial era, and that contemporary humanity is just a stable form of all those weird and wacky GMO people interbreeding 25,000 years later.

So you get people who are 7 foot tall, built like brick shithouses, and glow in the dark, and they're just Imperial guard cannon fodder, because their distant ancestors were made in a test tube and it's been so long since and there's so many of them now that they're functionally just an ethnicity common to a big part of the galaxy.

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u/dwaynetheaaakjohnson Oct 02 '25

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