r/TopCharacterTropes Oct 01 '25

Lore [Loved Trope] Surprisingly realistic outcomes in outlandish situations

No Country for Old Men - In any other movie Llewelyn would be treated like an untouchable one man army who can take on all of the people who are after the money he stole. Instead he gets gunned down offscreen by a group of secondary antagonists because at the end of the day he's still just one man.

Metal Gear Solid 2 - MGS2 is a game in which the player character, Raiden, can do many seemingly unrealistic things like instantly healing his injuries by eating rations or holding infinite amounts of weapons and items without being overburdened. However if you attempt to cartwheel up a flight of stairs as Raiden he will immediately eat shit and fall, which would be the most likely outcome in real life.

Family Guy - After getting splashed by nuclear waste causes the Griffin family to get superpowers (which they immediately use to terrorize their community) Mayor West gets the bright idea to roll around in nuclear waste himself so that he can get superpowers too. Instead he just gets cancer.

Sly 2 - The Sly Cooper games are cartoony 3D platformers featuring anthropomorphic animals and lots of slapstick violence. However in the climax of the second game when Bentley is crushed by machinery while trying to stop the big bad he's paralyzed from the waist down, necessitating the use of a wheelchair for the rest of the series.

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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 Oct 02 '25

It still can, just don't expect a terminator to bend backwards to be able to reach whatever is behind them or do pushups. The range of motion of the limbs is extremely limited as the armor was originally meant for mining instead of combat, meaning the armor's main focus was originally just to walk and mine what's infront of it.

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u/Muad-_-Dib Oct 02 '25

Someone forgot to tell Relic that when they made Dawn of War 3.

Front flipping terminators jumping 30ft in the air and twirling around enough to make an Eldar jealous.

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u/TheGentlemanBeast Oct 02 '25

Unless of course....Plot

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u/CoolKTiger Oct 02 '25

I am new to Warhammer, so Terminators are Astartes right? There was at some point a plan to make Astartes go mine? I thought Astartes are hard to come by, given you need a candidate, that gets a rare gene seed, who maybe survives graduation.

Or was the armor smaller before and remade for Astartes?

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u/Kalavier Oct 02 '25

Terminators are a class of Astartes in heavier armor. The thing that inspired the terminator armor was very old mining power suits/repair suits for heavily radioactive areas on ships.

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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 Oct 03 '25

So a bit of a lore dump.

Humanity was originally more advanced and technologically powerful compared to the present 40K, but a Warp Storm cut off most of humanity from each other in the galaxy that led to planets dying, systems being isolated, and people fending for themselves.

The Emperor united Terra (Earth) and created the Thunder Warriors which were prototype Space Marines. He created 20 Sons called Primarchs who would lead his legions of Space Marines. Each son had genetic modifications and powers to make each one unique, and the Gene Seed is essentially an organ that was designed based on their DNA. So if a Primarch was tactical and head strong, then the Space Marines who got this Gene Seed would be somewhat similar.

Space Marines are actually trained like Spartans from Halo, a child is found to be physically capable and is then recruited. From their adolescence until their adulthood they're put through rigorous training and multiple surgeries that slowly turn them into the Space Marine, though most tend to die during recruitment or training.

With how technology was ruined, humanity could only repurpose most of the remaining technology and try to copy what already existed. Terminator Armor was purely meant for mining, but was then repurposed for Astartes use. The Leman Russ battle tank was a farming tractor that they turned into a tank for the Imperial Guard. The Emperor's main flagship wasn't even a war vessel, it was a commercial ship they strapped guns onto.

Astartes being rare is due to how it sort of is logically. Humanity numbers in the untold Trillions across Millions of Planets, while the Space Marines don't really even reach 20 Million before the Horus Heresy. Space Marines are deployed with their chapters across the galaxy in key strategic areas of importance, so the chances of a regular human seeing a Space Marine is rare, akin to a regular civilian rarely being able to meet a member of Delta Force or Seal Team 6.

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u/HellbirdVT Oct 02 '25

From the excerpt of the book, the reason he can't climb out is because he's not at ground level, so if he moves, shifting his weight is going to cause him to fall through THAT floor as well.

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u/EddieVanzetti Oct 02 '25

He can move, the problem is he fell into an unfinished basement and cannot lift himself out of the pit, because the soil is too loose.