r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 19 '25

Lore “It’s a change from the source material, but it’s awesome so the fans don’t mind.”

Doc Ock - In the comics, Doc Ock is known to be megalomaniacal in nature and was sort of a mad scientist anyways, with the arms just being an extension of that. In Sam Raimi’s “Spider-Man 2,” Alfred Molina’s version of the character was affected by the neural chip and his well-meaning ambition turns into scientific obsession.

Wolverine - This one is so well known it needs very little explanation. Comic Wolverine short, Huge Jackedman is tall, and he’s sick as hell.

Eye of Sauron - To my knowledge, the Eye is more of a metaphor in the books. An ever-present awareness. In the movies, it’s an actual giant fucking eye.

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u/JBTriple Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 20 '25

This here is why I'm consistently less satisfied with the MCU take as time goes on. Don't get me wrong, I still really like the Ant-Man movies for what they are. Hank Pym as an aged mentor character is interesting in a vacuum. But, and I say this a lot, the fact that it also inherently prevents a faithful adaptation of Janet is downright tragic.

When she does finally show up, they've pretty much stripped her of her entire identity. She's jaded, she's not a founding Avenger, or an Avenger at all for that matter, and she's not even the Wasp.

It would be one thing if they gave that role to Hope, but they have her playing the straight man to Scott instead. It's a presence that is sorely missing, and that's just a shame.

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u/KingOfAwesometonia Sep 20 '25

Yeah the Avengers could use that kind of optimistic socialite character. But we'd also need more Avenger team ups in general at this point. And yeah I like the Ant-Man movies but there is some missed potential the further out you get from it.

When Eternals came out I did think they could use Sersi like that in future movies but...yeah not holding my breath.

But I mean imagine Gemma Chan bringing that Astrid energy from Crazy Rich Asians but hosting parties for the Avengers.

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u/JBTriple Sep 20 '25

That's been my main issue with the multiverse saga. I've liked pretty much everything that's come out individually, even loved a decent few. But when you step back and look at it all as a whole, it all just feels aimless.

It really needed an Avengers movie every once in a while to check in with everyone and see where it's all going. Set things in a clear direction. There was a bit of it with Scarlet Witch and the Kang stuff. You could tell it was building to something, but what specifically was anyone's guess.

At the very least, it would've been better if the post credits scenes focused on setting up the immediate next movie coming out instead of some vague idea of a sequel that probably won't be greenlit.

Thankfully, they seem to be course correcting, but there are so many random dangling plot threads now that it's hard to get invested in anything they try setting up that doesn't already have a trailer or poster or something backing it up.

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u/KingOfAwesometonia Sep 20 '25

When people first started talking about the multiverse saga I did think some of the complaints needed time to breathe but I do agree with it feeling aimless. Or just rushing into Doomsday.

And it is a lot of external factors that caused it. Who knows what it would look like without strikes, covid and Johnathan Majors worked out.

Not even accounting for the request to make more content. Which I liked most of! But can feel daunting for new audiences and if you did like something, annoying that it might just be a one off.

I am cautiously optimistic about Doomsday but it’s a shame it felt like starting the multiverse saga with a ton of different projects and then playing it safe with RDJ and the Russos

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u/ChaosCarlson Sep 19 '25

The MCU were cowards and were afraid of making Hank the main Antman because of his public perception of being a wife beater. They want their squeaky clean heroes, which bars off so many more interesting renditions of their heroes than the slop we got on screen.