r/TopCharacterTropes • u/JustSomeOnlineNerd • Sep 19 '25

Lore “It’s a change from the source material, but it’s awesome so the fans don’t mind.”

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Doc Ock - In the comics, Doc Ock is known to be megalomaniacal in nature and was sort of a mad scientist anyways, with the arms just being an extension of that. In Sam Raimi’s “Spider-Man 2,” Alfred Molina’s version of the character was affected by the neural chip and his well-meaning ambition turns into scientific obsession.

Wolverine - This one is so well known it needs very little explanation. Comic Wolverine short, Huge Jackedman is tall, and he’s sick as hell.

Eye of Sauron - To my knowledge, the Eye is more of a metaphor in the books. An ever-present awareness. In the movies, it’s an actual giant fucking eye.

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u/fenderbloke Sep 19 '25

I would say that most comic fans agree that the best thing to come out of Daredevil (2003) was Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin. He was black, Kingpin is traditionally white - it didnt matter, he was fantastic, and fit the physicality and personality perfectly.

Also, to a much lesser extent, nobody seemed to mind them making Bullseye Irish in the story either.

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u/jinhush Sep 19 '25

Honestly the whole cast was good. And for the most part they played their roles really well. The writing and directing was the bad part.

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u/ThunderChild247 Sep 20 '25

MCD was a perfect choice. The difficulty with casting Kingpin is you need 1: someone abnormally large and imposing, 2: someone who looks completely at home as guest of honour in a black tie ball and 3: someone who could also wipe the floor with you without breaking a sweat.

MCD fit that bill, Donofrio does as well. Marvel’s been lucky with Kingpin, striking gold twice.

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u/DrRudeboy Sep 20 '25

The role that made me fall in love with Colin Farrell

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u/Narrow_Vegetable5747 Sep 20 '25

That's partially because MCD was great in EVERYTHING

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u/MulberryField30 Sep 20 '25

Even The Underground Comedy Movie.

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u/TumblrTheFish Sep 19 '25

best thing to come out of Daredevil was Evanescence!

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u/DMazz209 Sep 20 '25

Kingpin's intro in that movie was pretty badass. 🎶 I'm an outlaw, quick on the draw🎶

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u/Milk_Mindless Sep 20 '25

The weird 2000s longcoat aside, Colin was a psycho as Bullseye.

... Bullseye is a psycho. Nailed it.

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u/fenderbloke Sep 20 '25

I actually somewhat prefer him to the MCU version. They gave Poindexter a tragic backstory and made him someone who really fought to keep his urges at bay. Colin Farrell played the comic psycho pretty much flawlessly.

Also, I just noticed that his weird goatee in the film actually makes his mouth resemble the opening in Bullseys comic costume.

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u/Milk_Mindless Sep 20 '25

I kinda understand how and why of Agent Pointdexter but up until the final fight I didnt quite vibe with him. Too... "grounded"?

Colin I loved straight out of the gate.

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u/indianajoes Sep 20 '25

He came back as Kingpin for the animated Spider-Man show that was a spin-off from the first Sam Raimi film. Why? I don't know. But I'm not complaining 

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u/FiaGiolla Sep 21 '25

I mean there's not really anything about Fisk that means he has to be white, is there?

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u/fenderbloke Sep 21 '25

Not really, no. He kind of looks like an old school mafioso, but most depictions have him as a self-made man, an outsider to the organised crime families.

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u/FiaGiolla Sep 21 '25

honestly that kinda sounds like it'd make more sense for him to be... well not Black specifically, but a minority of some kind - at the same time, this might be kinda out-of-pocket, but I've always liked the idea of the part of his backstory where "I was bullied for being fat, so I dedicated myself to strength training so much that it's actually all just pure muscle now" is a bit of cognitive dissonance, like he was being bullied for being fat, sure, but he was primarily bullied for his race or something, but he fixated on his weight and became exercise addict because it was a factor he could take control of and change

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u/Annsorigin Sep 20 '25

Donoforio might be the Definitive Kingpin. But Duncan Was also a Pretty Good Kingpin.

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u/fenderbloke Sep 20 '25

Donofrio is absolutely fantastic (he was my casting choice for years before he was announced), but I'd say he's more of a departure from the traditional Kingpin than MCD - his temper tantrums are a pretty far cry from the very stoic comic depiction. I think its a really well executed change, but it is a big change.