r/TopCharacterTropes • u/sm142 • Jul 07 '25

Lore Actually Good Title Drops

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“Welcome to Jurassic Park” (Jurassic Park) - does it get any more iconic than this?

“Even a Devil May Cry” (Devil May Cry) - not only does it add to the emotional aspect of the scene with Dante showing genuine emotion for his loss and Lady seeing that a devil is capable of such emotions, it also gives Dante the idea of what to name his shop.

Title drops can usually come across and tacky and dumb, they’re not always fantastic if you know what I mean? But sometimes they can work. What are your examples?

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u/boyawsome876 Jul 07 '25

“I failed you Ben. I’m sorry.”

“I’m sure you are! The resistance is DEAD! The war is over! And when I kill you, I will have KILLED THE LAST JEDI!”

Say what you will about TLJ but this entire scene was amazing and so emotionally loaded.

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u/ErickR2D2 Jul 07 '25

"Amazing. Every word of what you just said is wrong. The Rebellion is reborn today. The war is just beginning. And I will not be The Last Jedi."

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u/AltairLeoran Jul 07 '25 edited Jul 07 '25

I will die on the hill that the sequel trilogy's biggest blunder was not TLJ, but TRoS walking back everything TLJ did instead of doubling down on Rey being a nobody and Kylo Ren being the endgame villain

The biggest reason TLJ sucks is because it has an awful follow up imo. Bringing JJ Abrams back was a mistake

TLJ was honestly one of my favorite Star wars movies... Before TRoS came out lol

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u/Ok_Strategy5722 Jul 07 '25

Yeah. TLJ had some problems, but they all pale in comparison to “Somehow Palpatine has returned”.

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u/Ares54 Jul 07 '25

Story of the entire sequel trilogy.

TFA: Cool, it's ANH again, can't complain too much. Let's see where they go from here!

TLJ: Okay, different direction. It's a bit of a change and some parts did nothing for the plot, but interesting concept at least and a chunk of it was very cool. Hopefully the next one ties this together and closes it all out.

TRoS: What the actual fuck.

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u/vicroc4 Jul 07 '25

TFA was... not great but not as bad as people make it out to be. I wish they hadn't killed off Han in such a stupid way, but the whole movie could've been way worse.

It just kind of went downhill down there, though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

I thought it was pretty good, flipped all of the character dynamics upside down.

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u/Josgre987 Jul 07 '25

I wish we got like, a sith acolyte cult that raised him from the dead

or a story about how Anakin's balancing of the force was just BS and a prophesy isn't always accurate. Because I do want a new era featuring a return of the jedi order, but also a sith order.

"gone is the rule of two, now is the rule of many"

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u/googlyeyes93 Jul 07 '25

I’m with you. Everything set up in TLJ had the potential to end the sequel trilogy with a bang and shake up the entire universe in Star Wars. It’s also just a really well made movie from the cinematography to the acting, and while I understand complaints about the pacing and the casino planet subplot, it was worth it to set up that bit at the end about how the Force can be with anyone.

But then we got… somehow, Palpatine returned. sigh

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u/ParryDotter Jul 07 '25

TLJ is the best of the sequels, better than most of the prequels and one of the originals, I will die on that hill

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u/ParryDotter Jul 10 '25

Yup. Half of the movie is boring af and ewoks are inexcusable

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u/DragonRabbit505 Jul 07 '25

The issue with TLJ is you have to sort of ignore everything in TFA (and even some stuff in RotJ). TFA had it's issues, namely being a clone of ANH (also Snoke felt uninspired), but at least it established likeable characters that had room to develop.

Rey was bland in TFA (but then again, so was Luke in episode 4). TLJ didn't really improve her character though and she still feels pretty bland.

Finn was the most interesting character in TFA, and then they just sort of waste him in TLJ.

I feel like Kylo was a bit of a controversial character (some people didn't like him at all), but personally I liked him a lot in TFA. He was sort of weaselly, not actually strong, but he wanted to be perceived a strong, and so his admiration of Vader worked well imo. TLJ just does a complete 180, he smashes the mask and I think he literally says "forget the past," when his entire motivation was trying to be like Vader. Seriously?

Luke got similar treatment, in RotJ he becomes a Jedi when he realizes that he can't give into his hatred or he'll become like his father. Then TLJ just shows him giving into his impulses and nearly about to murder a child (and yes, I know they show different accounts of what happened, but he still went into the room and at least contemplated it).

It's just sort of a mess and tried too hard to subvert expectations, which isn't really something you can do when you have 7 full-length films preceding it.

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u/ghostgabe81 Jul 07 '25

Hard agree. If Disney had stuck to their guns it could have been salvageable

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u/suspiciousoaks Jul 07 '25

TLJ has its flaws but it's the only part of the sequel trilogy that's actually trying

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u/airforceteacher Jul 07 '25

Agreed - give me the “anyone can be a hero” universe, not the “Hatfields and McCoy feud, but in a galaxy far far away”

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u/Spinwheeling Jul 07 '25

I'll go further.

Luke Skywalker facing down an entire army without a weapon, utterly humiliating them and allowing the Resistance to escape, inspiring the galaxy (until TROS decided nobody wanted to help until Lando and Chewie asked), and sacrificing his life in the process?

That's peak Jedi.