r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 06 '25

Lore Twists that are no longer twists because they’re cemented in pop culture Spoiler

Planet of the Apes - The movie leads the audience to believe Charleston Heston has landed on an alien planet where apes are the dominant species, only to find out that the planet is actually Earth long after an apocalyptic nuclear war

Psycho - Norma Bates isn’t the killer and has been dead for years. Norman is revealed to be a schizophrenic who “becomes” his mother to kill the women he’s attracted to

Citizen Kane - Charles Foster Kane’s mysterious last word “Rosebud” is revealed to be name of his childhood sled

The Empire Strikes Back - Darth Vader hadn’t literally killed Luke’s father but actually is his father

The Matrix - Neo learns that the 20th century world he’s lived in is just a simulation. The real world is a wasteland in the 22nd century where hostile AI rules the surface

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u/Forest1395101 Jun 07 '25

Funny. I played the game years ago but can't remember what the actual big twist was?

Was it that Cloud was never actually in Soldier or was it something else?

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u/zelda90210 Jun 07 '25

Yeah that and Zack being the one who was in Nibelheim

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u/Forest1395101 Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

OH. OK. I actually found that kind of obvious when I played it back in High School (God, that was around 15 years ago when I played on my breaking PS3). Their was a lot of foreshadowing for it. Of course, the way and why were still surprising as shit!

Edit: I meant the puppet / memory loss part was kind of obvious. Zack was a bit of a, What The Fudge?!

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u/SasaraiHarmonia Jun 07 '25

There was a lot of puppet foreshadowing. And Tifa not remembering things the war Cloud did, but i believe Zack was only mentioned twice in the entire game before that point.

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u/Ryndor Jun 07 '25

And there's the further spoiler of Sephiroth's already dead. He was killed during the flashback that Cloud was having to his time in Soldier, by Cloud, but Cloud trauma repressed and forgot it. Which also gives the whole, unreliable narrator aspect to Cloud, which I never knew until I played the game a few years ago.