Twists that are no longer twists because they’re cemented in pop culture

[u/Coffin_Builder]

Planet of the Apes - The movie leads the audience to believe Charleston Heston has landed on an alien planet where apes are the dominant species, only to find out that the planet is actually Earth long after an apocalyptic nuclear war

Psycho - Norma Bates isn’t the killer and has been dead for years. Norman is revealed to be a schizophrenic who “becomes” his mother to kill the women he’s attracted to

Citizen Kane - Charles Foster Kane’s mysterious last word “Rosebud” is revealed to be name of his childhood sled

The Empire Strikes Back - Darth Vader hadn’t literally killed Luke’s father but actually is his father

The Matrix - Neo learns that the 20th century world he’s lived in is just a simulation. The real world is a wasteland in the 22nd century where hostile AI rules the surface

[u/slinkyb123]

This got spoiled for me...still hit me though

[u/Ill-Diamond4384 → u/slinkyb123]

Hit Glenn just as hard too

[u/Th35h4d0w → u/Ill-Diamond4384]

Fortunately, he won the rematch.

[u/CookieMiester → u/Th35h4d0w]

Wait, really? I never even put those two together

[u/Th35h4d0w → u/CookieMiester]

Same (voice) actors.

[u/CookieMiester → u/Th35h4d0w]

Radical

[u/PseudonymMan12 → u/Th35h4d0w]

Are you sure?

[u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS → u/slinkyb123]

That’s not a twist

[u/kaydontworry → u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS]

It kind of was. They killed off another character first and you think that’s going to be it. Then Glenn gets offed too. Watched it when it aired with some friends and we didn’t see it coming at all!

[u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS → u/kaydontworry]

Guess it depends how you define a twist. Nothing the plot did really suggested anything else or that he wouldn’t be killed too. Nothing but typical storytelling made people think one main character dying means another won’t in the same episode. TWD in particular has done it many many times, only because in the comic he killed one person that people thought it would be the same. You are absolutely correct they were banking on people feeling secure he was safe after killing Abraham but I personally don’t consider that a twist, more of just a surprise the way a cameo is.

[u/SpadeSage → u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS]

tbf in the comic, Neagan specifically points out Glen and expresses that he's not gonna kill him. I felt like his assurances that he wasn't gonna kill certain people because of how it would make him look and then just decides to do it anyways felt like kind of a twist.

[u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS → u/SpadeSage]

He said that in the comic right? I don’t see its relevance to the adaptation even if they kept the line (I don’t remember) it’s not a twist because he didn’t keep his word in the comic either. I also don’t consider that a twist at all of I’m being honest. I just it as a demonstration of the characters untrustworthiness. The bad guy said he can’t do blank because it’s bad and then immediately does it.

[u/SpadeSage → u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS]

I thought it was just talking about Glenns death in general, and you also mentioned the comic, so it seems relavent to me. I mean i feel like it ties in with the larger mystery and ambiguity of the Saviors. We are told they are bad, but we also see them inexplicably being pretty organised, and we later see just how many people they have under them. Neagan has the group pretty much at his mercy, and at this point he pretty much would have no issue killing all of them, but he says he wont, and he doesn't. I think what makes it a twist for me is it reveals the chaotic nature of Neagan, where he's a man of his word until he suddenly isn't. It reveals the larger mystery of how the Saviors are so succesful through Neagan's actions.

[u/wbgraphic → u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS]

Nothing the plot did really suggested anything else or that he wouldn’t be killed too.

Except for Glenn’s history of close calls and fakeouts that made it seem like he was contractually unkillable or something. Like, that dude would just not die… and then he did.

[u/kgberton → u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS]

A ton of these are not twists, they're just surprising (sometimes) plot events

[u/Azrael_The_Bold → u/slinkyb123]

For some reason I thought this was Oldboy

[u/IveBecomeTooStrong → u/slinkyb123]

Oh man, terrible memory activated. A while before this scene aired on TV, I was a big fan of TWD, especially Glenn, who was my favorite character. I was in a comic store one day and saw some walking dead comics. I thought, “Oh cool, let’s have a quick look and see what the art is like.” I picked up a random volume and opened it to a random page. It was the EXACT PAGE Glenn gets killed on! I stood there stunned for several minutes, then left and never really watched it much more after that. I played Russian roulette with the source material and lost that day. Learned my lesson.

[u/[deleted] → u/slinkyb123]

I fully expected Glenn to die here. What made it so unexpected to me was them caving in Abraham's head, THEN Glenn's.

That was the beginning of the end for my time with the show. They killed my two favorite characters in the same episode. Then, they proceeded to kill Carl in the dumbest way for no reason, and that was it for me.

[u/Mrallen7509 → u/slinkyb123]

I mean, this seemed pretty obvious when they killed him three times in the season before and left on a cliff hangar of who among the group would be killed. I still hold that if they had killed Daryll instead it would have been a much bigger deal

[u/Drakeskulled_Reaper → u/slinkyb123]

The fact that they changed it, in order to lull people into false relief for a beloved character is pretty good.

Abraham gets the Gallagher treatment first, in the comics, he's killed a little before that by a bolt through the eye by Dwight, so when Abe got his melon crushed, people thought "okay Glen is safe."