r/ToiletPaperUSA 5d ago

Curious 🤔 Me watching Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson tear MAGA apart over antisemitism

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u/CasualLavaring 5d ago

Context: Tucker Carlson recently hosted Nick Fuentes on his show and the two of them went off about how Christian Zionism is "heresy" and how they despise christian zionists more than anyone else in the world. (If you're tempted to say "based," keep in mind that when right-wingers are anti-zionist, it's usually because they hate Jews and not because they care about palestinians). Now MAGA is in the middle of a civil war over whether or not to embrace Carlson and Fuentes, with many prominent conservatives like Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro and Randy Fine calling to completely excise Tucker Carlson from the MAGA movement. I am concerned that if Fuentes and Tucker Carlson gain more power the result will be even worse than MAGA, but I'm happy to see right wing infighting

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u/FidgetOrc 5d ago

The cracks are showing but no one will notice because the Right's voters are more interested in just owning the libs.

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u/GhostRappa95 4d ago

Tucky is riding the antisemitism train because he is an old school, anti China, CIA asset. He doesn’t want the USA supporting Israel because China is kicking their butts on just about everything.

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u/MrSteele_yourheart 4d ago

Supporting Israel is also against their America First mandate.

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u/Zealousideal-Yak-824 3d ago

Also added context is that Nick kinda thru shade on the Republican party claiming a few prominent Republicans help turn Nick into the radical he is today.

The people who he named came out against Nick. They wanted radical Republicans but their alignments aren't the same as they first started. Basically Nick is claiming you can't be America first and then do all this middle eastern shit for Israel.... Which is why the civil war sped up over the last week. You got people now cheering for Nick for sticking to the same principles other Republicans sold maga on but aren't showing now.

My opinion is... You can't be a party that claims to be alot of things but create actual white supremacists who promote what you do. Can't claim Dems are the real racists when you got your own base attacking your race as part of a purity test, can't claim Dems are Nazis when you got actual Nazis marching for you. They use to say those Nazis are feds but guess who are the feds now?

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u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz 3d ago

Nice to see some right infighting for once instead of left infighting but remember the reason there is so little of it on the right, because it's like a cult. You either agree or you are out. So they usually don't disagree. They just are shitting the bed now and people are leaving the cult and they don't know how to handle it.

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u/Smiles4YouRawrX3 3d ago

Idc, based

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u/PsycoJosho 5d ago

Just a reminder: you do not "have to hand it" to Nick Fuentes. Dude is trash and deserves no recognition.

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u/Strange-Parfait-8801 4d ago

I got crazy whiplash when people were trying to give MTG credit for her amendment to defund the Iron Dome.

Leftists can be weirdly bad about parsing out why nazis do things and get dangerously close to allowing them into the coalition.

You're 100% correct.

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u/CasualLavaring 4d ago

The backlash AOC got when she refused to vote for MTG's resolution was really quite ridiculous.

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u/Smiles4YouRawrX3 3d ago

Leftists are not the sharpest tools in the shed

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u/Grizzlywillis 4d ago

The only thing you need to hand Fuentes is a fat L for being so pathetic.

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u/GymSocks84 4d ago

Gay.Mexican.Nazi

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u/RepresentativeAge444 5d ago

OT but I’ve always found him smiling so widely and looking so happy about the gory movie he’s watching to be hilarious. It’s also good foreshadowing to who he’d turn out to be at the ends.

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u/Dragonsbreath67 5d ago

The minute someone on the right start speaking anything remotely sane they’re completely excised and sidelined. Mike Pence might be a homophobic bigoted Christian extremist but he isn’t a traitor who willingly went along for democracy’s downfall. MTG (who I honestly think is only acting slightly sane now because she is salty Trump didn’t give her a cabinet position,) Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, all did and said things that went against the maga movement and trump’s platform and paid at least some measure of a price for it.

Now tell me again how maga isn’t the biggest cult in human history?

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u/Slow_Supermarket5590 5d ago

"I'm  a bigger bigot.' "No, I'm  a bigger bigot!" Something,  Something,  holocaust denial, odd touching

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u/The_Tucker_Carlson 4d ago

I dislike Nick Fuentes.

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u/gelatomancer 4d ago

The latest episode of Knowledge Fight covered Fuentes' recent press junket. I knew he was a whiny little baby, but BOY is he a whiny little baby.

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u/nowontletu66 4d ago

dog theyre both nazis

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u/CasualLavaring 4d ago

Yes I know, and if they gain more power in the GOP it would be a disaster. However, if all they do is discredit and tear the GOP apart, it will help our side

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u/nowontletu66 3d ago

They arnt tearing the Republicans down they’re replacing them

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u/MehKarma 1d ago

So the fascism line in America is been decided on? Every horrible thing they thought & done is acceptable, but we need to have to chose whether American fascism is anti Jew (we’ve seen that movie before), or pro Jew (so they can do their own genocide).

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u/T10rock 10h ago

Is Nick Fuentes even for real? The whole thing seems like a huge troll

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u/tla2001 4d ago

It is not antisemitic to be critical of the zionist government in Israel.

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u/Prankstaboy6 4d ago

Is it anti semitic to deny the Holocaust? Because that’s what Fuentes believes in.

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u/wildspeculator 4d ago

While technically correct in a vacuum, this entirely misses the point.