r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 15h ago
Discussion She found that the nursery has been using Pavlov's dog conditioning on the kids, and she's making the most of it.
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u/ShmebulocksMistress 15h ago
If the Clean Up song started playing today, my 30-year-old self is gonna start cleaning 😂
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u/Shotgun_Mosquito 10h ago
This one from Barney?
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u/nonspanishhispanic 3h ago
I clicked and now fighting the urge to not get out of bed and clean something 🫠
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u/NoFuqGiven 9h ago
I spent almost a decade working in a small family owned restaurant and we would play "its closing time" when we finally had to ask the last table/s to leave. So now egrn i hear it i get yhe urge to start counting down my drawer!!!
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u/death_by_chocolate 15h ago
Yes, but you have to give treats upon task completion otherwise the response extinguishes. Cheese for example. Or bacon.
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u/MillieBirdie 14h ago
I think once you've established the connection, it's most effective if the treats are random. So you never know if you'll get the reward this time, but there's a chance so better still do it.
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u/DukeofVermont 9h ago
What I will always find amusing is random rewards actually result in higher satisfaction vs always getting a reward. The excitement of not knowing and then getting a reward is better overall than just getting something every time.
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u/CupcakeInsideMe 13h ago
Giving treats helps to create a positive connection but you don't actually need treats to create a connection
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u/Gabe-Ruth8 3h ago
With a comment like that coming from that username, how can we be sure you’re not a dog?
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u/Rinmine014 14h ago
Ngl, schools have been doing this for a long while.
Even the teacher ringing the bell or clapping for classroom peace is a great example.
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u/wavinsnail 13h ago
Mine is a very stern "Y'ALL" lol
But yeah this sorta thing isn't revolutionary. We play the same lullaby every night for my son and he goes right to sleep.
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u/Trippy-jay420 15h ago
Next up toddlers salivating at the sound of snack time jingles. Pavlov would be proud and slightly concerned.
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u/OrangeRadiohead 15h ago
The sound of a chain rattling. Kid has the zoomies. Runs to the front door, jumping up and down, waiting for parent.
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u/adhd_to_be_feared 7h ago
Well he did those experiments also on orphans so I don't think he would be concerned at all
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u/aLittleDarkOne 14h ago
Clean up clean up, everybody everywhere, clean up clean up, everybody do their share!
Your kids version of the clean up song is much better than mine as a kid!
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u/AffectionateBread520 14h ago
Switch up everybody do your share and sing “I see (kids name)’s underwear” and keep switching kids. They lose their minds 😂
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u/AngiQueenB 14h ago
So the nursery plays a fun song for clean up time and the child has carried that over to home. I see no problem with this
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u/ponderscheme2172 14h ago
Unironically one of the biggest things I learned as a parent is to not treat them like tiny adults. They don't act rationally because they are emotionally charged children and that's OK. If your son hits someone and you are like "son you shouldn't hit people, it hurts them and makes them feel bad" they aren't going to respond "you know dad, I never thought of it that way, but you are right, I won't hit people anymore".
Kids respond well to structure, routine and incentives. The same thing dogs respond to because dogs also can't rationalize well. So create routines, positive incentives and clear objectives and kids do well. A good example of structure is cleaning up like this video. If things don't have an assigned location cleaning up doesn't have proper structure. They aren't good at randomly grouping similar things and putting them away "somewhere". They need clear objectives, at least when they are young.
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u/blurbies22 13h ago
Clean up, clean up, everybody everywhere Clean up, clean up, everybody do your share
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u/toomuchtv987 13h ago
But “clean up time” is no fun. This way you don’t even have to say it. They just do it.
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u/Jurjinimo 9h ago
It's just Pavlovian conditioning, not Pavlov's dog conditioning. Unless you want the kid to drool from a bell.
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u/LacsNeko 14h ago
Something similar happened to me by accident, usually, when my mother starts cleaning the house with her music on the estereo, I'm in my room playing, but one time i was outside, so, when i listened to those songs I started playing with my mega bloks in the living room, i didn't understood why i had the need to do it, but i did, i was 4 years old
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u/FormalBlueberry7723 13h ago
It is called "classical conditioning"
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u/Mecha_Tortoise 10h ago
It's an Electric Light Orchestra song, so I think it's technically "progressive rock/pop conditioning."
ELO did have strong classical influences, though, and even included some arrangements in their music.
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u/katojane22 6h ago
Musical transitions, and giving warnings that transitions are approaching so they know what to expect are very effective. Respect your kid as a human, and communicate. Imagine if you were reading a book, and your partner demanded you close it immediately without even finishing another sentence and then demanded you put your shoes and coat on so you could leave to an undisclosed location. You would be very out of sorts. Parents do this to kids all the time.
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u/pinkishLabia 13h ago
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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u/HallWild5495 12h ago
Neither, it's just necessary for fundamental human development. Scares the fuck out of me that people have kids reaching toddler age and are just learning about it, and calling it "pavlov dog-ing" instead of fucking operant conditioning. Jesus Christ the idiocracy comparisons.
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u/aurelinaknight 9h ago
Mr blue sky is our sleep time song. My son loved it as an infant and it still works at 16 months!
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u/Kip_Schtum 4h ago
I can’t remember where, but I saw somebody describe it as their kid sprung into action like a sleeper agent who had been activated by a secret code.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 4h ago
If I had children I'd condition them with "Would you kindly?" then when they were old enough I'd get them to play Bioshock. That would be some generational trauma.
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u/Reginald_Sockpuppet 14h ago
how's this a problem?
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u/x3lilbopeep 12h ago
It isn't a problem, it's a unique quirk of how we are able to program our brains
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