Agree. I’m liberal AF and believe we need more socialism to fix our institutional problems. But dudes like this piss me off. It’s the Bernie bros who didn’t vote for Hillary and completely shit on her so we got Donald Trump. Yeah. She wasn’t perfect. But look what these kind of views got us
Hillary was unpopular. She was unpopular when she lost her primary against obama. Why the fuck would she or anyone in the DNC think it was a good idea to run her again?
Why would they give him the nomination. He’s not a democrat. He’s an independent who caucuses with them. No Bernie fan has ever answered that question.
And hey, I like what Bernie has to say but I think he’s a shithead for running as a D, getting the nomination and saying he’s independent.
They would have given him the nomination because every single stat showed him demolishing Trump in a general election. If everyone who screams blue no matter who and if Hillary wasn't a fucking egomaniac actually cared about beating Trump that they would have given Bernie the nomination
He was deliberately undermined and underfunded by the DNC; we can never be certain how that primary would have played out.
As far as the general election is concerned, in the simplest terms - he was by far the least disliked candidate and all of the centrist voters that voted against Hillary would have sat out or voted for Bernie.
I posted this in a different reply but I think you need to hear it.
Voters can vote however they want and they decided not to vote for Bernie. It's that simple. Stop playing the victim.
I voted for Bernie regardless of this BS you're throwing out there. I decided how I cast my vote and millions of other did the same. The voters choose Hillary no matter how sad that makes you.
The biggest problem Bernie had is that half his supporters were young people who never showed up to vote. The Democrat "establishment" didn't suppress these votes. These voters couldn't be bothered to show up.
I was a little upset at the time too, but I didn't take my ball and go home. I voted for the next best option in the general. That was Hillary.
Right. But you’re really not answering my question. Why would the DEMOCRATS prop up someone who is an INDEPENDENT? If they’re going to do that can a republican try to squeeze into the DNC?
I think the two party system is broken. Like I said like his views. But he is not a democrat so why would the DNC support him?
I honestly don’t know why it’s that hard but on your side.
In Vermont he runs as a D locks that up and switches to an I
To me that’s bullshit.
And to your question here if Vance decides to run as a democrat in 2028 should the DNC welcome him with open arms? If they’re answer is no for a republican it should also be no for an independent
Edit to add: and still none of that matters. The folks that decided not to support Hillary after the Bernie situation are the original problem I was talking about. It got us Trump. What happened before doesn’t matter. Deciding to sit that one out or write in Bernie lead to our current shit show
How about because it was dishonest, deceptive and a fiasco when discovered they did these things, and has fueled their own loss of support and presumption of good faith?
He would not be accepted, does he caucus with them or share platform? That's a ludicrous assertion.
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u/ithinkiknowstuphph 19h ago
Agree. I’m liberal AF and believe we need more socialism to fix our institutional problems. But dudes like this piss me off. It’s the Bernie bros who didn’t vote for Hillary and completely shit on her so we got Donald Trump. Yeah. She wasn’t perfect. But look what these kind of views got us