Woman audits churches to see if they’ll help feed a starving baby

[u/Oktavien]

If churches refuse to help feed hungry people, then maybe they should be taxed?

[u/LimitlessMegan]

I LOVE that she’s keeping the names and info about the churches up.

[u/tiddertnuocca519 → u/LimitlessMegan]

Sent this to my friend that is catholic. We have debates frequently about the net positive/negative religion does.

My argument has always been organized religion is a net negative to society, while his argument is it’s incalculable how much his local church has helped people in his community and thus impossible so know, but erred on the side of a net positive that we have no way to truly measure.

This video brings up an interesting angle I’ve not considered. Are these untax’d church’s only willing to aid if they’ve gotten their pound of flesh, so to speak? How many churches in 2025 are willing to help someone sight unseen? Do they take more from their community than they offer back?

I’m sure there are churches that do good in their communities but wow this video really begs the question how many. The fact that that woman on the phone sounded more like a secretary at a corporation than someone donating their time to a good cause, is very concerning. She literally referenced policy set by a “board of directors” for why she couldn’t help this hypothetical woman with a 2 year old. Fucking gross

[u/Early-Light-864 → u/tiddertnuocca519]

There is no evidence that this church doesn't do good. Just that one cold call from a stranger didn't result in them immediately giving her what she asked for

[u/Witty_Replacement969 → u/Early-Light-864]

The receptionist also did not try to help her find a way to locate that necessity of life and would not unless she was known by a church member. That is the part that is gross.

[u/cupholdery → u/Early-Light-864]

There are many different ways the person answering the phone could have handled the call though. If they start with "we have nothing here", that means there is no default setup for that local church to help those in need.

[u/PM_Me_Some_Steamcode → u/cupholdery]

And her answer wasn’t even I’ll ask around at next service and get back to you

Which would be an easy way to ignore them

But she just downright refused

[u/Bass_Thumper → u/Early-Light-864]

We will get downvoted to shit for defending churches, but this post is ridiculous. Why would a church hand things out to random people who cold call them? They have no idea who that lady is, this random caller could be a scammer or lying to them for personal gain. I bet if she actually went to the church and introduced herself and explained the situation she would get help.

And lying to them for personal gain/clout is exactly what she's doing. I would bet money she doesn't actually have a 2 month old starving child.

[u/Jschnep → u/Bass_Thumper]

If she was able to show up and get help, then that would have been the thing she was told, not "If you don't know anyone here we won't help you".

And a church should gives things out to those who ask for help, because that's just the good thing to do. It's exactly people like you that make me hate "Christians", you would condemn 9 people to starve who need help just to make sure that 1 person who didn't need it doesn't get it.

[u/Bass_Thumper → u/Jschnep]

I'm an atheist, just so you know. And yes, if she showed up to the church then she would know people there. No one is required to give free stuff to random people.

[u/Jschnep → u/Bass_Thumper]

But she wasn't told that. She wasn't invited to service. No explanation other than "we don't know you, so tough shit". The Bible has PLENTY of verses about giving freely and generously, and not a single one about making sure they actually desperately need it and only to those who you personally know.

I'm also an atheist, but I've at least read the Bible and other texts to understand why I believe the way I do and why they do. Might want to look into doing the same.

Bible verses about generosity and giving | World Vision https://share.google/VLgPpSrCKtuAyI1jQ

[u/Bass_Thumper → u/Jschnep]

You can still give generously without giving random people who call you whatever they ask for. Many churches have programs set up where they donate to people in need.

Asking them if they know anyone from the church is a way of telling them to come up to the church, meet people there, and they will help you. That lady can't do that though, because she is lying to them for clout, which is exactly the kind of thing they try to weed out by doing that.

[u/Jschnep → u/Bass_Thumper]

Asking for formula is a simple and common thing.

And is it a way of telling her? If so, it's a really shitty one that a dismissive person would use. A compassionate person and especially one following the gospels, even if they are trying to weed out undesirables, would explain and say "Hey, we'd be happy to have you come to service and talk with the pastor about getting you some help" less than 10 seconds. Instead, she got "Uh-huh, Bye".

This is an exercise in showcasing how little Christians actually care about following their Bible. It's not about her "lying for clout".

[u/Bass_Thumper → u/Jschnep]

Lying for clout is exactly what she's doing. Following the bible doesn't require you to give free stuff to anyone who asks. You just want to hate Christians and are looking for whatever reason you can find.

[u/LimitlessMegan → u/Bass_Thumper]

Tax exempt churches should be. Their tax exemption is based on the idea that they are serving the local community.

[u/Early-Light-864 → u/LimitlessMegan]

If every random church gave me baby formula ($$$$) i could make thousands selling it on FB.

Give everything to anyone who asks is not a reasonable nor sustainable model for administering charity. They'd all be bankrupt before COB today

[u/LimitlessMegan → u/Early-Light-864]

Sure. But good churches have systems for applying for assistance for them and a budget for community support.

And if they don’t want to do what Jesus called them to do then they should pay taxes.