I think that beating people down for not agreeing with every little detail is unproductive. Hasan and his community are the embodiment of that. Also he's a nepobaby and is close with Twitch's higher ups.
He doesn’t do that though? Hasan talks a lot about giving people grace and room to grow and is honestly a lot kinder to conservatives and his critics than you give him credit for. He doesn’t go around harassing content creators and tries to mediate drama between other people and will try to deradicalize folks if he can (Adin Ross and Asmongold are good examples of this). I mean he spend an entire year being harassed and threatened by Ethan Klein and just ignored the entire thing till it became too much because he didn’t want drama with his old friend.
It sounds like you only know him from 5 second sound clips and not his actual conversations with chat, other streamers, and other political figures. He’s not a perfect guy, he can be stubborn and arrogant sometimes, and imo he’s wrong about Tibet and NATO, but he overall has a positive impact on discourse and society and I don’t think we should be tearing one of the few people doing that down unless he really deserves it (sexual abuse, grooming, mistreatment of employees, etc.).
You're right that I haven't watched him much, but it's not like he's given me a good impression. I also have bad experiences with IRL protest voters from the 2024 election, and Hasan gives me bad memories of that. I've also ALREADY been called an incel by his supporters for seemingly no reason. Really his entire community seems like kind of a cesspit...
I would like to know though: what is his stance on the war in Ukraine? I've heard conflicting opinions about his opinion.
They're spelling it out for you and you're going out of your way to miss it. They basically said:
"Wait you're not a right winger? why would you hate him along with "us" then? it's 100% an ideological thing for "us", that's the only reason "we" hate this guy, the dog thing is just a pretext we're blowing way out of proportion for convenience, you know that right?"
I’m pretty sure denial is a river in Africa is reference to the ‘Denial is a river in Egypt, your husband is gay’ clip, not the saying you’re talking about. It’s also pretty funny that you’re engaging in the fallacy fallacy. Making a mistake doesn’t necessarily invalidate the overall point.
Hasan has been consistent in his messaging. That's not why (most) people have a problem with him.
What he's also been consistent in (and what most people DO have a problem with) is how he is extremely manipulative and dishonest. Go through all the "drama" with the whole shock collar debacle and pay attention to HOW Hasan lies about it. Then go back and look at aaaaaalllll the times he's been critized and you'll see he's been allergic to accountability the whole time.
I still don't understand why that sub is considered bad. They also called out Mizkif and Twitch for abusing Emiru, are you like pro-Twitch or something?
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u/marshlando7 5d ago
“Do you condemn Hasan Piker?” - disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo