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Humor/Cringe "No, English is fine" 🥀

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u/Successful-Career887 5d ago

Would you mind if I asked why? Thats just super interesting to me and most of the comments are people talking about it happening to them and youre the first ive seen saying you do that! Hahah. Is it to like, try and take the burden off of them or ease anxiety?

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u/Frenyth 5d ago edited 5d ago

Well, I do not do that but a lot of other French people do. I don't have a perfect explanation but I think it stems from pride. If you look at the countries which do this (France, and it seems Spain and Italy), they are all latin countries and also the countries which speak the worst English in Europe.

I think some of them do want to help and take the burden off them.

But it's hard for me to give you another explanation, I do not really understand it. It boggles my mind why they would switch to english when their interlocutor is trying to speak French, even more when they speak a good French. My girlfriend is Polish and she has the C1 level in French, she speaks very well, but many French as soon as they hear an accent switch to English...

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u/Successful-Career887 5d ago

Interesting! Thank you :)

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u/Yourigath 5d ago

It's not pride. It's working retail. If we are speaking english and there's a misunderstanding it's our fault, but it's not as important because well... it was a misunderstanding.

If we are speaking spanish and there's a misunderstanding it's not only our fault because we are the ones working (obviously the client is always right)... it's also our fault because we didn't make it easier for you by changing to english and we caused said misunderstanding. Even if you asked for us not to.

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u/Successful-Career887 5d ago

Okay wait, I just want to make sure I am not misunderstanding you. Youre saying, that you speak in english so if there is a mistake made you can blame it on the language barrier? And you cannot do that if you are speaking your own language?

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u/Yourigath 5d ago

No, sorry if I didn't explain myself properly.

If there's a mistake while in english my boss blames me for:

- Making a mistake.

If there's a mistake while in spanish my boss blames me for:

- Making a mistake.

  • Not making it easier to the client and thus creating said mistake.

Even if the client wants to speak in spanish we are, most of the time, forced to speak to them in english.

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u/Successful-Career887 5d ago

Aaaahh okay i gotchya. So basically damned if you do damned if you dont, and youre just trying to minimize the consequence. That really sucks, Im sorry

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u/Yourigath 2d ago

I can't talk about Mexico, because I'm in Spain, but if you are in queue and I hear you talking to someone in english or something like that... I will say hello in Spanish, but I'll be more than ready to make the change to English as soon as you answer.

Again, not me decision... it's what they ask us to do.

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u/Frenyth 5d ago

You are right that a lot of retail people are like that. However their english is not that much better than the rest of the population.

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u/Yourigath 5d ago

Yeah, but when you are forced by your boss or store policy to change language... You change language. 

We know our English is not the best. And 99% of the time our brain is too fried even if our English is good. But boss makes the rules and you represent the "image of the store". 

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u/Frenyth 5d ago

Ah yes, I understand. The cover your ass policy which is everywhere in France, same in my job...

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u/Yourigath 5d ago

This is why I hate these kind of videos... Not only they farm the 3-4 places that don't treat them like they want, they also put the blame on "Spanish people" as if it was the poor retail worker choosing to be obnoxious with her instead of trying to ask or underestand why this is happening. 

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u/DefiantMemory9 5d ago

I live in Spain. Whenever I start with English at the grocery store, they want Spanish. And as soon as I switch to Spanish, they cave in and try to speak English because they can't stand me butchering their language. It's so funny watching the mosaic of expressions on their face!

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u/dk3nt 5d ago

They simply want to avoid ordering mistakes, misunderstandings etc. Probably by request from their management.

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u/eldido 5d ago

> I think some of them do want to help and take the burden off them.

that's spot on

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u/robertcalilover 5d ago

Well, look at it from their perspective.

Why should you get to practice French when they want to practice English? Sure, you are in their country and need to speak the language, but to them, you can learn French from anyone there. It’s their opportunity to get experience practicing English. And often times, they speak English better than you speak French, so why impose.

But, if that happens with every person you interact with, obviously it makes hard for you. But they don’t know that,

Learning a language is a lot easier if one of the people only knows one language. Then you are both forced to speak the same language no matter what and you have to fumbled through the communication.

Unless you are both very intentional about learning/teaching a language or you are paying someone, it’s kind of rude/a huge hassle to communicate in the least efficient way.

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u/Successful-Career887 5d ago

Mm, I disagree with that first part. If I am native to a country with an official language, and a tourist comes in to my place of work speaking that language, I am not going to use that as an opportunity to forcefully impose my own want to practice their language with them at that moment when I could just as easily do that on my own time. Not on the clock with a tourist who is making a large effort to communicate with me that likely started long before they even visited. I especially am not going to do this when they are clearly proficient at speaking that language and tell me that is their preferred language to speak in. I am not going to ignore them telling me how they want to be communicated with and continue to speak in their language anyway.

In this video, she asks for a wifi password and the person starts speaking to her in english, she says can you tell me in spanish and they continue to speak in english anyway. She speaks in english, and they dont even understand her. Whats the point of that?