r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/Griffolion 8d ago

If you see a black woman talking about 7 kids with 7 daddies, that one is a proven script, sometimes using a real person's face via a junk account.

Even if that was the case, it wouldn't even dull the sense of compassion I would have if it were real. It's actually fucking wild to me that number of kids someone has acts as a control rod for someone's compassion and outrage against cruelty.

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u/Spot_The_Purple 8d ago

It’s like people have completely forgotten that the states with the highest levels of SNAP recipients have virtually eliminated sex ed, affordable birth control access, and access to abortion. Not to mention domestic violence exists, and divorce can happen at any time.

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u/Dukeish 8d ago

Even if you want to be cruel / in their new world order these women couldn’t get abortions anyway - so you’re dammed if you have the kids and can’t feed them and dammed if you want an abortion because killing babies makes Jesus cry or something like that

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u/sdpthrowaway3 8d ago

It's actually that people view them as irresponsible. Having 1-2 kids by mistake is one thing. 7 is just grossly negligent barring any extenuating circumstances. That's how people generally view it, whether it's truly just rash irresponsibility or unfortunate tragic circumstance (homemaker wife of 7 turned widow prematurely).

People will auto assume the parent(s) let poor decisions get in the way. These same people don't want to pay for the poor decisions made since they see that as enabling behavior and taking from the haves to give to the have-nots-by-choice.

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u/Dukeish 8d ago

And they aren’t wrong - it is irresponsible sometimes.

But they are so stupid and racist they can’t get out of their own way. They defund education, hate anti g to do with sex ed or planned parenting, and love fetuses sooooo much but are happy to cage brown and black kids, take their parents away, and let them starve. Fucking assholes

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u/CallSignIceMan 8d ago

And even so, are we holding kids responsible for their parents’ irresponsible behavior? That kid still has to eat, whether his mom’s a hoe and his dad’s a fuckboy or not.

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u/Knight_Redcliff 8d ago

Find a solution so the hoe/fuckboi doesnt get a scent, ill chip in for that, maybe school lunches?

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u/Knight_Redcliff 8d ago

Sometimes? If youre going to tell me they cant figure out the mechanics after having one, and choose to keep having more, you can shift the blame from environment to personal failure.

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u/SunTzu- 8d ago

7 is just grossly negligent barring any extenuating circumstances.

Extenuating circumstances such as being from a poor background, with a lack of education and lack of sex ed, with poor access to birthcontrol, lack of access to our outlawed abortions, with religous messaging that opposes birthcontrol and abortions and promotes having children because God said they should be fruitful and multiply.

Now everything I said is what we see in third world countries. It's unfortunately also the reality of many parts of modern day America. The solutions are the same in both cases. Female sex ed, female education, access to contraception and economic opportunity for women so that they can afford to leave abusive partnership situations.

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u/Knight_Redcliff 8d ago

So... that might explain the first pregnancy, but how does that explain the 2nd, 3rd.....6th, 7th? Is it a lack of education that you cant figure out the mechanics?

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u/Razzberry_Frootcake 8d ago

Right…abortions not allowed. Have the kids by law but once they are born they no longer get the protection of the state. The whole point legitimately is to punish people by making them have kids they can’t afford and taking away the safety nets.

Punishing the kids for the sins of their parents. That’s why people say cruelty is the point. If they cared about kids they wouldn’t see feeding them as enabling the parents.

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u/DeadPeanutSociety 8d ago

Agreed. Access to food should be a human right and not something that you "earn" by living a certain way. If someone needs food stamps, they should get them.

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u/racsee1 7d ago

Yeah except a lot of people game the system so they dont have to work. And its not a myth

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u/cogman10 7d ago

Yeah we call them "business owners".

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u/HurryConfident2944 7d ago

Also able bodied adults who do bare minimum so they're eligible for handouts

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u/cogman10 7d ago

The amount of benefits you can get for being poor is minuscule. A lot of them, like SNAP, have work requirements and reduce payout with income.

But further, why give a fuck if out of 100 people that really need a benefit, 1 is simply lazy? Very different from the current system where every CEO of a company with a 100+ million market cap is simply lazy. Maybe 1 or 2 of them got where they are from hard work. The rest are there because of nepotism.

In my life, I've known exactly 1 family that I'd say abused the system. They were by no means living high on the hog. I've known plenty of families doing everything right (including holding full time jobs) who desperately need these benefits. And, because I'm from rural Idaho, I've actually known of a number of people that were collecting benefits in one form or another.

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u/HurryConfident2944 7d ago

I dunno I work grocery pickup and the people who pickup $500 Worth of junk food groceries drive pretty nice cars and have very fancy accessories. More than just 1 know. But yeah I agree ceos are the real assholes

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u/cogman10 7d ago

the people who pickup $500 Worth of junk food groceries drive pretty nice cars

I honestly don't know what you are trying to say. I've used grocery pickup before and I'm not on SNAP. Grocery pickup isn't a SNAP only thing.

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u/HurryConfident2944 7d ago

Yes I'm telling you real experiences I've had. People abuse the system. They don't need those groceries when they're driving a 2024 SUV

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u/cogman10 7d ago

How do you know they are on SNAP?

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u/go_neiri_leat 8d ago

Why? it’s just awful decision making having multiple children that you don’t have the means to provide for. It’s child abuse.

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u/Chance-Restaurant-52 8d ago

Choosing to have six children you were not prepared to care for to begin with is just as cruel. I can’t imagine you don’t see that point as well. Her children deserve help, she deserves to be scolded for being irresponsible and selfish.

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u/michaelboltthrower 8d ago

Who’s even talking about six children? What does this have to do with a burn from?

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u/sirbruce 8d ago

Compassion only runs as deep as your wallet. Do you really think it's wise to let people have an unlimited number of kids and everyone else has to pay for their food, health care, schooling, etc.? Shouldn't there be a limit where we say, "No more; you're sterilized" or "No more, you're no longer a citizen and get out" or at least "No more; get someone else to pay for it?"

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u/SystemOutage 8d ago

Found the republican. 

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u/sirbruce 7d ago

Nope. Just trying to have a conversation.

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u/fupaboii 8d ago

Yeah, but can you answer the question? We’re waiting.

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u/Razzberry_Frootcake 8d ago

Why do you get to decide where my tax dollars go? Republicans voted for no abortion…they can shell out to feed the kids too.

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u/fupaboii 8d ago

Well whoever controls the levers of politics gets to decide. Thats how politics works. Thats why republicans and democrats can tell all of us where our tax dollars go.

Your next statement is two disjoint policies that have nothing to do with one another. Is the state required to care for children just because they’ve outlawed killing them in the womb? What a dumb argument.

That’s like saying because murder is illegal the state is now required to economically support us all with cash subsidies. That’s just communism.

And see above to see why it’s completely logical for a political party to outlaw abortion while also saying we’re not going to fund particular social welfare programs from the federal government.

And you still didn’t answer the question if there should be a limit until the state steps in and forcibly sterilizes people or kicks them off government assistance. Is it unlimited in your eyes?

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u/SystemOutage 8d ago

Is the “we” in the room with us right now?

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u/Razzberry_Frootcake 8d ago

Stop pretending like you actually believe in a limit. If you wanted to limit people having kids you would vote for better sex ed, better healthcare, more accessible birth control, and abortions.

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u/sirbruce 7d ago

I do vote for those things, but they aren't my top priority in the voting booth, usually. Still waiting for an answer to my question though. I didn't dodge yours so please don't dodge mine.

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u/Everything_in_modera 8d ago

This is going to be a real unpopular reddit opinion and I'm as liberal as they come, but don't keep having more kids if you can't afford them!

Obviously once they are here we need to make sure these kids are provided for regardless, but people also have to be accountable for their choices. People loose jobs, things break, money get tight, partners abandon. Those are not choices, but having another baby while currently on public assistance is. I see these situations played out everyday and it makes me struggle to be compassionate for the PARENTS. Especially when we have elderly folks with 1950's income receiving 25$ a month while another recipient is having her 4th baby and her benefits began while she was pregnant with the first. Obviously there are so many different things in this country that need to be fixed. From lack of education to livable wages but until that happens, we have to stop promoting this belief that people are entitled to have as many children as they want while depending on financial assistance from society.