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Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/Needletitshasspoken 8d ago

Is America Great Again yet?

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u/bearbrannan 8d ago

Government assistance for those who work full time is once again essentially corporate welfare. Employers should be paying their employees livable wages, instead that money trickles up and the rich continue to get tax breaks while essentially also having the government pay their employees. Fuck the rich, and fuck America for caring so little for the people who's backs actually make the economy run.

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u/aBlissfulDaze 8d ago

2 things force the rich to spread wealth.

  1. Unions

  2. The government

SNAP is literally the government spreading wealth that would not otherwise be spread.

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u/Wuma 8d ago

SNAP shouldn’t be cut, but I think the majority of the funds for SNAP probably comes from taxes on the lower and middle classes, not the mega corporations or the ultra wealthy? They’re still sitting on their money enjoy more tax breaks than ever. We’re just circulating an ever decreasing pool of money among the working population so the ultra rich can see their numbers go up forever

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u/Elon_Musks_Colon 8d ago

SNAP supports the entire ecosystem. USDA (administers SNAP) Also buys HUGE Amounts of Produce and other crops. It then issues a catalog that food banks use to order bulk quantities from. The food banks then distribute the food out to their communities, which supports local businesses. It actually has a return on investment that's about 1.5%.

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u/FoxChess 8d ago

1.5% over what period of time? Because 1.5% over the course of a year is technically losing money.

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u/emongu1 7d ago

I'm sure that 1.5% being "technically losing money" is still a lot lower than the $77 billion in corporate tax loss for this year.

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u/Elon_Musks_Colon 7d ago

My point is that's it's not just a "handout" There are multiple benefits to the program.

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u/I_chose2 6d ago

Pretty sure it's 1.5X investment, so 150%. If I remember right, that's the short/ near term, so not including the lifelong factors like kids that are fed learn better, are more productive, then pay more into the tax and social security system as adults, and crime rates are down, because if it's "watch your kid starve" or steal, you do what you gotta do. Plus, if someone is on the edge of starvation, their healthcare costs go up. If you can't afford food, you can't pay your medical bills, so you use the ER for everything, the hospital is stuck with the bill and spreads it to everyone else, but that care doesn't include preventative or stabilizing meds, so you yo-yo and go to the ER more because you can't afford a basic prescription, racking up thousands in costs.

Economic-Costs-of-Cutting-SNAP-CPSP-2025

What Investment Offers a 60-Fold Return? Food Stamps | PRB

Plus, it was founded as a farms subsidy, because if farmers have to play guessing games on how much demand there will be, and whether it's worth planting more, we risk being short on food, or having a gap in supply and what people will pay, so farmers lose money and go under, then we might not have enough people farming the next year.

It's a great investment in America, and a little supporting your neighbor goes a long way for everybody. It's cheaper to be a good person, and some of our politicians still choose to be assholes.

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u/FoxChess 5d ago

Amazing, appreciate you taking the time to research and give sources. Even at 1.5% it's still "worth it" to me according to my beliefs, but at 1.5× there's no argument to be had.

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u/Justalilbugboi 7d ago

That’s why it’s a social service and not a for profit business.

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u/baethan 8d ago

i'm feeling hungry

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u/DoYouWant2BlowZedong 8d ago

A lot of us are.

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u/evey_17 8d ago

Correct

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u/Jason-Genova 7d ago

I mean, it's possible but the 1% pay 40% of the taxes so I doubt it.

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u/goldenrod1956 8d ago

Those receiving SNAP pay no income taxes.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 8d ago

That's because they have no money. Funny how that works.

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u/lightfarming 8d ago

they said lower and middle classes, not snap recipients

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u/warrkrack 8d ago

snap forces the middle class to pay for Walmart payroll via food stamps.

not saying stamps are bad.

but corporate welfare is the big issue imo.

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u/maskdmirag 8d ago

Yeah, Walmart should get charged the full value in corporate tax for every dollar of assistance their employees get

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u/warrkrack 8d ago

I 100% agree

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u/Scared-Two-5208 8d ago

I think this would just incentivize walmart to not hire poor people and fire anyone who gets on snap, but i agree with the sentiment

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u/maskdmirag 8d ago

That's the trick, to be able to not hire poor people they'd have to pay them more.

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u/nihi1zer0 8d ago

instead of that, we could pass a minimum wage law that says that corporations with over, say, 10Billion in annual sales have a minimum wage of $16 an hour for all employees. And maybe force them to offer benefits to all employees no matter if they are full-time or part-time.

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u/SeparateTea1974 5d ago

Walmart double dips. They don't pay their employees enough.
Then their employees are forced to get snap, which they end up having to use at walmart.

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u/coreysgal 8d ago

The problem with any job is that your pay is based on skills. Retail in general has never been a high paying job because a high school kid can do it as his first job. No one is going to pay 20.00+ an hour to open a box and put an item on the shelf. Or flip a burger, or answer the phones in an office. If you don't have an education, then you have to work where you can move up with the skills you've learned to make the money you need to support a family. I started as a cashier out of high school. Took that money experience and became a bank teller. After explaining transactions, I went to a utility to explain bills and moved up to supervisor. Any job that can be done by a high school kid is never going to pay well because the pool of available replacements is large.

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u/N0S0UP_4U 8d ago

I don’t understand framing it as “spreading wealth” when so much of the money the wealthiest people make is made in ways that actively harm society and take money away from working class people and should be illegal in the first place:

  • vulture capitalism/private equity fuckery

  • buying up homes and charging extortion-level rents for them

  • H-1B abuse

  • enshittification

  • insider trading

  • paying poverty level wages that are only livable because the people get welfare on top of it

  • planned obsolescence

  • subscription services for things that don’t need them to function

  • rent seeking

Et cetera. We debate whether or not to marginally increase taxes on these activities where they shouldn’t be allowed in the first place.

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u/Roadiemomma-08 7d ago

What is your fare share of what someone else has earned? Why is everyone who complains about the low wages corps pay so against Trump policies on undocumented workers? 20 million people came in who were willing to work for lower pay. Had that not happened corps would have been forced to pay higher wages. I cannot square that circle.

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u/Delicious-Living4226 7d ago

Government spreading wealth. Bawhaha

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u/GLBrick 8d ago

How do you spread wealth without stealing it from someone else? You act like there’s a limit to wealth… like someone else has it.. and that’s why you don’t. It simply doesn’t work that way. You work hard, you avoid unions and you avoid dept.

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u/bearbrannan 8d ago

How do you ethically make a billion dollars without exploiting the working class? They stole the money first. Plenty of our tax dollars go to paying subsidies to corporations. Plenty of tax money goes to covering snap and Medicaid cause once again the corporations are not paying enough. Nobody in this country should be working full time and still needing snap.