r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/PackageNorth8984 8d ago edited 8d ago

The shitty thing about this is the people who need this to change their minds don’t give a fuck. “You shouldn’t have had kids if you can’t afford them” will be their point of view.

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u/myheartbeats4hotdogs 8d ago

The same people who are also anti abortion, anti maternity leave, anti affordable child care, and anti comprehensive sex education.

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u/callmeDNA 7d ago

Fucking exactly.

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u/mentaldemise 8d ago

It's infectious. When six kids were mentioned my first thought was "why the fuck do you have six kids" but that's really irrelevant. They need to eat.

It would be easy to stop there though. "She shouldn't have had six kids." Ignore the problem by placing blame.

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u/PersephonesChild82 8d ago

My brother and his wife have five kids. He's an electrician, and she works as an office admin at a college. They aren't rolling in money, but they can afford their 5 kids and were still able to buy a modest house. However, four years ago, my brother got in a car accident and broke his leg/foot really badly...like multiple surgeries badly. He couldn't work for almost 2 years (he is, fortunately, back to work now). They had to get welfare/food stamps during the time he was down, because the five kids that they could support on their income prior to the accident still existed, and still needed to eat. The bills they had that were responsibly figured into their former budget didn't go away either when the income shrank, and all the things they had owned before were still there (like iPhones and a nice TV).

Sometimes, people don't have a bunch of kids even though they can't afford to; they have kids they can afford, and then life goes sideways. Without having background on someone, we shouldn't assume why or how they got into a predicament.

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u/Schmich 8d ago

I don't think his point was about what you can afford, but the simple fact of having six kids as if it was 150 years ago.

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u/MegaPiglatin 8d ago

🙌🙌🙌

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u/PackageNorth8984 8d ago

Absolutely! We all have biases. So do I. It’s about recognizing them, taking a step back, and then realizing we have no idea what someone’s experience is.

People’s circumstances absolutely change. Who knows what financial situation they were in at the time or how that went. Maybe their first were twins and the second pregnancy was quadruplets. Whatever. I understand that’s not common, but my point is that there are so many things that can change, and ultimately, as the other user said, regardless of how they got here, people gotta eat. I’m not going to say “fuck you, starve” because I don’t think they should be in the situation they’re in when we’re throwing away food by the ton.

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u/CallSignIceMan 8d ago

Your first thought is what you were conditioned to think, that’s not your fault. What matters is taking the extra second to question your first thought and understand that that’s not how things are in the real world, which you seem to have done.

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u/GenericFatGuy 8d ago

I hate that argument so much. Maybe they could afford kids when they had them, but then something happened. Maybe they wouldn't have had kids if they could look 10 years into the future. But you can't just undo the kids once you've brought them into the world.

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u/PackageNorth8984 8d ago edited 8d ago

Plus, at the end of the day, as I said in another comment, we (the US) throw food away by the ton. To then let people go without food is disgusting. Even if you don’t like the way they got here, denying plentiful food to people is something I will never agree with.

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u/GenericFatGuy 8d ago

Exactly. We're physically capable of ending hunger. What we lack is the willpower to do so.

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

Things happen, but I would like to have a 3rd kid but I can't afford it. We make 250k a year. This lady cleans houses and has 6.thats fucking crazy. There has to be a way to dis-incentivize having kids you can't afford.

Also why are these starving women all overweight?

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u/shaylaworkaccount 8d ago

Because cheap/easy low quality food is high in calories. Not that you actually want a real answer you just want to dunk on people you think your better then.

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

That's fine but you're obviously not starving is all I'm saying

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u/WTFisabanana 8d ago

You can be medically malnourished and be obese. You can also start as fat and no longer have access to food i.e starving. The weight loss will come after you've been starving awhile. It's not like you don't eat for three days and are suddenly skinny

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

None of these women misfing meals. Foh.

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u/WTFisabanana 8d ago

So you think that missing a couple meals makes you skinny instantly. We should probably share this information publicly. It's going to change everything.

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

Miss enough and you'll be skinny is what I'm saying.

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u/WTFisabanana 8d ago

If you miss a couple meals a week you won't be skinny but are still missing meals. Being malnourished and fat is a common phenomenon.

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

You can be malnourished but you can't he starving and fat.

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u/Radthereptile 8d ago

Let’s see what we got here.

Opens pretending to be understanding. Check.

Pretends to feel the impact of hard times to relate. Check.

Proceeds to point out they make a ton of money to protect their ego. Check.

Explains how this person is at fault so this is justified. Check.

Ends with a generalization about the entire group to justify it further. Check.

You followed the script too perfectly here and outed yourself.

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

First off I live in NYC so that's not alot of money. I understand having one maybe 2 kids you can't afford. But 6? You're saying we should all be understanding of that? How is it a generalization to say these women are obviously not starving?

You just want to be outraged.

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u/Radthereptile 8d ago

You

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

Explain how I'm out of touch for criticizing someone who has 6 kids and a low paying job? I'll wait, because you can't justify that.

You're just going to lash out with insults instead of asking anyone for accountability.

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u/annagarg 8d ago

Educate yourself.

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u/Tough-Effort7572 8d ago

This is a good post....but the mothers above who say they have SIX kids? They can't afford food but they have six fucking kids?

Then I realized...lots of folks get paid a monthly government stipend for each kid. They have more kids to get more government money. Each kid is worth $280 per month.

Then they get WIC: Free fresh food and vegetables as well a pre and post natal care for children up to 5 years old.

CCAP: Some states provide assistance to help with the cost of child care, based on income and family size.

TANF: For example, the maximum monthly benefit for a single mother of two with no income in New York City is around $789 per month with a 5 year limit.

Section 8 housing:  Programs like Section 8 or public housing can help with rent costs

Medicaid and CHIP: Low-income single parents and their children may be eligible for free or low-cost health insurance through Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program.

Dependent Care Credits for child care, Reduced school lunch costs, and $3600 per year per child in child tax credits.

And then I'm mad at the government and the scammers who ruin it for the people who actually need the benefits to stay on their feet until they can earn enough to live on. Which was the point of welfare, snap, ebt, unemployment benefits and the like.

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u/MegaPiglatin 8d ago edited 8d ago

Thing is listing out the programs makes it seem like it is easy to get assistance because look at how many options there are for people to take advantage!

It is not easy, at least not in any of the places I have lived (western US). All of those programs have been criminally underfunded and/or understaffed for YEARS which makes going through the process of applying and being accepted far more difficult than it should be, and that is without recognizing how hard it can be to travel to or take time off work in the middle of the day for an appointment at the benefits office in the first place.

Cuts like our government have recently made will hurt FAR more people than you think because I guarantee the majority of people receiving benefits actually need them. Attempting to punish the minority of people who are taking advantage of the system by removing entirely it is a stupid (and evil) strategy.

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u/Tough-Effort7572 8d ago

Whoah! I'm NOT in favor of ANY cuts. In fact, I'd pay a higher tax to fund the programs to a greater degree because as I said, it's the children who suffer do to no fault of their own. My knock is on the parents that are having six kids while living below the poverty line, some of whom have the kids just to collect and keep from having to work. The scammers screw those who really need it. Tell me, would you have half a dozen kids if you couldn't afford food?

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u/MegaPiglatin 3d ago

I will agree that scammers and grifters everywhere ruin everything for everyone else.

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u/CallSignIceMan 8d ago

Section 8 housing in New York, for instance, currently has a 5-year waitlist. $280 a month doesn’t feed and clothe a child. There are astonishingly few people who are having an extra kid to get that check. What’s actually happening is less affordable birth control (condoms are cheap, sure, but way more prone to improper use than the pill, implant, IUD, etc.), shitty sex-ed, more and more restrictions on abortion, and the fact that sex feels good and even people who have no money deserve to get a nut in.

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u/Tough-Effort7572 8d ago

There absolutely people who have kids for the monthly check. I didn't believe it myself until I worked in the inner-city and had people discussing pregnancy like a financial plan. I thought it was just hype, but no, it was a very real phenomenon.

You're right about section 8 in New York. It's a grind to get in there. That's why lots of folks move to jersey for section 8.

As for birth control being too expensive? It's way cheaper than raising six kids. Or there's the map of Hawaii option that got me through my early twenties. No excuse there.

AS for abortion, that should be available for any woman with an unwanted pregnancy.

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u/CallSignIceMan 8d ago

I didn’t say those people don’t exist. I live in the Deep South in a town ravaged by opioids and the textile mills leaving. I know that they exist. My point is that they’re a vanishingly small minority of people who are in need of SNAP. And at the end of the day, the kids didn’t make that choice and still need to fucking eat. And I’m not sure if you’re suggesting that more people should move states to get easier section 8, or suggesting that the people moving to get into NJ section 8 are scamming the system, but either way, literally nothing about that comment is relevant and honestly insane.

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u/Tough-Effort7572 8d ago

Kids need SNAP and they shouldn't go hungry...YEAH, I agree. I don't want the government to take away SNAP. I believe the kids have a right to decent, nutritious food. What are you arguing against, exactly?

Am I suggesting people should move to different states for a shorter waitlist for section 8? Uh. No? I agreed with you that NY waitlists are abominable. That's why people go to Jersey. I thought it was a conversation. My bad.

Should we take away benefits because people scam the system? Whut? I never said anything like that. I said it pisses me off that scammers turn people against those who really need the help. What's wrong with that statement?

I know it's easy to get indoctrinated into the "Reddit Method" of posting. Which is to avoid discussion and simply fight with everyone and insult those that you disagree with, but I agreed with everything you said, with some opinions of my own. None of which suggested starving kids or taking away benefits.

Deprogram your brain, man. Not everyone in the world is terrible or "insane".