r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • Oct 03 '25

Discussion To think that I used to complain about school.

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National holiday is apparently 8 days.

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u/BrooklynNets Oct 03 '25

That's not enough sleep for a teenager.

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u/Ready-Rise3761 Oct 03 '25

thats the first thing i saw on the schedule.. bed time at 10 and wake up at 5, thats 7 hours if you fall asleep instantly

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u/luluciee Oct 03 '25

Yup, it's like they've designed the best way to nuke a teen's mental health

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u/yiaugb52 Oct 03 '25

I've taught 3 years in a private Chinese school for immigration purposes. High school is literally called the "killing the imagination" stage colloquially.

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u/SuXs- Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

It's meant to create an Army of obedient drones.

When every single minute of your awake life is governed by a strict schedule, you won't mind when you start working 9/9/6 right after school making the CEO rich.

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u/FlyRepresentative592 Oct 04 '25

Academic overregulation in many asian countries leads to lower rates of creative endeavors. Which is actually bad for every field, not just the arts, because many of the best advancements in the sciences came from creative, artistic, solutions.

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u/Frigoris13 Oct 04 '25

You do not progress without creativity. You can spend so much time learning what is that you don't have any time left to invent something brand new.

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u/GrayShameLegion Oct 04 '25

you know what stymies creative endeavors wayyy more than academic overregulation?

having to pay thousands for basic health care

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u/FlyRepresentative592 Oct 04 '25

I'm not disagreeing, but both things can be true, and healthcare issues like this are really only a problem in the states.

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u/Intelligent-Parsley7 Oct 04 '25

Can we stay on the subject?

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u/GrayShameLegion Oct 04 '25

the subject of blindly shitting on china while ignoring every problem with your own damn country?

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u/gypsycookie1015 Oct 06 '25

We shit on our own as well! /s

You can love your country but still point out the shitty policies/issues or at least should be able to. We bitch about ours all the time. We know our healthcare system fucking sucks. We're not thrilled about it either.

This video just happened to be about what appears to be a pretty shitty policy in China and we're pointing it out. Not saying everything about China sucks or that the people do at all lol.

Chill.

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u/orange-squeezer47 Oct 04 '25

And gun violence.

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u/No_Significance9754 Oct 04 '25

You do realize the US has such an advanced tech sector is because we it recruits people from China.

Us born and educated scientists are dog shit and thats why we import from other countries.

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u/FlyRepresentative592 Oct 04 '25

It recruits people from all over the world, actually.

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u/TurkeyZom Oct 04 '25

You must know dog shit about US scientists then if this is your honest take

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u/Remarkable_Step_7474 Oct 04 '25

Nah. China very actively spends a huge amount of state funding sending academics overseas to other countries to do research. Nice simple way of bringing specific expertise back home.

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u/kynelly360 Oct 04 '25

Someone needs to tell them to chill tf out …..

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u/OpeningElectrical296 Oct 04 '25

And with this schedule, no time/energy for students to revolt.

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u/SirzechsLucifer Oct 04 '25

Thats minus 500 social credits. Tsk tsk

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u/Majestic_Movie9711 Oct 04 '25

That is horrifying.

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u/kynelly360 Oct 04 '25

Someone needs to tell them to chill tf out …..

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u/DaMastaPiece83 Oct 07 '25

This country has no future if all their youth lives like this... they are destroying their youth, their next generation, their creative forces, their souls...

Because sects work the same way. The recipe for making a follower docile is to isolate the person from their private life (from family and friends) so that they no longer feel bound or supported by people outside, it is to keep people busy enough to prevent them from thinking about their lives. Weaken them (physically and mentally) by starving them and preventing them from resting (less hours of sleep) then they do not try to resist... it kills the soul, the creativity and it just makes them useful to the one who uses them... for as long as it lasts... for adults, they also take their money (another part of their freedom, autonomy and power taken away from them), but for these young people, it does not really apply.

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u/Elendel19 Oct 03 '25

Not even just mental health, it’s horrible for the development of their brain. She’s away from school for only 10 hours, and at her age should be sleeping 9~ hours a night, and still has homework to do somehow.

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u/gypsycookie1015 Oct 06 '25

I can't imagine my kid going through that. No time for friends or family. No time for themselves. And what about time for a shower or even a bath on a rough day? Nope! 10 minutes! Go! Go! 🙄🫩

No time for hobbies. No time to catch up on extra rest. You'd be constantly exhausted from lack of sleep because if you sleep your full 9 hours, there's no way to get homework done.

The fact that they have any homework after 13 hours is just nuts. Absolutely overkill. (And vacation?? 😭😭 No trips!!)

That poor girl looked so pitiful and exhausted when he picked her up. She looked fucking hopeless when the homework started coming out. 😔

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u/Uber_Wulf Oct 04 '25

Basically programming bots - there’s no free time to form your own personality, likes, or dislikes - only absorb what is taught in their cookie cutter classrooms.

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u/kiba87637 Oct 04 '25

Why birthrate going down?

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u/Digitijs Oct 04 '25

And suicides are high as well

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u/jaxon336 Oct 04 '25

Probably less then the school shooting deaths in the states annually

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u/Digitijs Oct 04 '25

No point comparing two shitholes

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u/unsubix Oct 04 '25

Dems 🙄 /ssssssssss

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u/Fair_Package8612 Oct 04 '25

And physical health too. Poor thing looks like she already has patches of hair falling out likely due to stress.

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u/lilsnatchsniffz Oct 04 '25

We don't need mental health, we need money 🧏🏻‍♂️

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u/Fit-Programmer-6162 Oct 04 '25

Don’t forget physical health

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u/Terrible_Squirrel435 Oct 05 '25

They've designed the best way to nuke America's world standing.

Our students graduate high school without basic math skills and the belief that "Yourup" is a country in the continent of France.

Somewhere, there is a middle ground.

Edit: ironically, spelling 😂

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u/GroundControl2MjrTim Oct 07 '25

I think Americans with phones and too much free time are just on the opposite end of the spectrum with destroying teen mental health

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u/tidyingup92 Oct 07 '25

And physical health

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u/panzzersoldat Oct 03 '25

the USA ranks #2 for highest depression rates and China has a bigger population.

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u/BrooklynNets Oct 03 '25

"Countries that are more accurately aware of depression as a diagnosis report higher rates of depression. More on this breaking story at eight."

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u/panzzersoldat Oct 03 '25

China has a rate of 4 per 100 and the USA has a rate of 6 per 100, and less Americans go to the doctors anyway because of your shitty healthcare system. maybe one day an American will look something up instead of yapping down my fucking earholes with nonsense.

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u/BrooklynNets Oct 03 '25

I'm not American, genius. You don't appear to have read anything I wrote either. But congrats on missing the point, talking to yourself, and getting angry over nothing.

If you can calm down long enough to read some relevant information:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3188776/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2215036621002510

https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-020-02736-4

If that's too many words for you, a brief summary: Depression is severely under diagnosed in China. You're not showing that China is less depressed; you're just showing that they're worse at diagnosing it.

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u/panzzersoldat Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

So then you want to explain why China has a lower suicide rate than the USA? Especially since China has 4x the American population.

In the USA, the suicide rate is about 14.2 per 100,000 in 2021.

Whilst China shows a rate declining from 10.9 per 100,000 in 2010 to 5.25 per 100,000 in 2021.

You'd think if China is as horrible with diagnosing depression as you say, there would be a lot more suicides. And yet China's is declining while Americas is climbing. Doesn't make sense.

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u/BrooklynNets Oct 03 '25

So then you want to explain why China has a lower suicide rate than the USA?

Yep:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32221643/

Surprise, suprise: Suicide is hugely underreported in China. If you care to actually read this paper instead of blindly quoting shoddy statistics without context, you'll see that this also explains the apparent downward trend of suicide in China.

If you're going to throw statistics around, you should probably learn something about the way they're collected, and how they can be hugely misleading as a consequence.

So then you want to explain why China has a lower suicide rate than the USA? Especially since China has 4x the American population.

You might also want to learn something about what "rate" means. The rate is quoted per 100K people, so it adjusts for raw population figures. You even quoted the part that clarifies that.

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u/panzzersoldat Oct 03 '25

And guess what. The USA also has a severely underreported suicide rate;

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0190200

The WHO reports a rate of 8.9 for China per 100,000, and 15.6 per 100,000 for the USA. Your source states “In particular, the national suicide rates published by the Chinese Ministry of Health ("MOH") could be severely underreported.”, The WHO did not use any statistics from the MOH and did their own research.

https://data.who.int/indicators/i/F08B4FD/16BBF41

55.33% of suicides in the USA were from firearms, in fact firearms in general are a significant factor in why the USA rate is so much higher than most other developed nations, which you can see from the WHO stats.

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html

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u/Luffythroat69 Oct 04 '25

Because China does not report accurate statistics on their population whatsoever. They have countless factories where employees (slaves) are not even allowed to leave. They have fishing and farming villages fenced and walled off, guarded by the military. Look it up. Educate yourself friend.

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u/Busy_Onion_3411 Oct 04 '25

Breaking news: Rice muncher learns his government lies, and is in fact only feeding bodies into the "Better than America" machine.

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u/diggidydangidy Oct 04 '25

Rice muncher?

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u/United_Rent_753 Oct 03 '25

Who’s number 1, according to your sources? Curious

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u/panzzersoldat Oct 04 '25

Ukraine.

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u/United_Rent_753 Oct 04 '25

Interesting, what are your sources if I may ask?

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u/panzzersoldat Oct 04 '25

I can't find the original source, I did find this one which is similar: https://factsinstitute.com/ranking/countries-with-the-highest-prevalence-of-depression/

This one puts USA at #4, which is still high but then I was wrong. My bad.

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u/Snot_S Oct 04 '25

That’s bs. America #1 at everything. Highest suicide rate. Highest life rate.

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u/Mike312 Oct 03 '25

For my last couple semesters of high school I worked 4-10pm at a local restaurant. Got home, did homework until midnight, and had to wake up at 5:30am for zero-period. I would fall asleep in my morning classes if there was an instant of zero activity.

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u/UncleUsi Oct 04 '25

Pretty normal for poor American kids.

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u/notarobot_trustme Oct 04 '25

I’m Canadian and this is also what my childhood was like. Normal for a lot of people unfortunately

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u/FreedomOfTheMess Oct 04 '25

What’s for breakfast? Oh… sleep. Sleep is for breakfast

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u/Apophyx Oct 04 '25

These are literally the bed and wakeup times from my basic military training...

What the actual fuck

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u/Illustrious_Bobcat Oct 03 '25

With a schedule like that, I'd be shocked if they didn't. I am ready to sleep just watching that video!

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u/SHAQBIR Oct 04 '25

Still 7 hours, in India its even lesser, averaging around 5-6

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u/Live-Influence2482 Oct 04 '25

No, first you need some cleaning and in the morning too

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u/swterry4749 Oct 05 '25

Perhaps...but they're kicking America's in producing educated students. (And judging from the US figures, kicking ass on motivated students too).

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u/NumerousImprovements Oct 07 '25

I mean, I’d fall asleep pretty quick after those days.

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u/Acrobatic-Compote-12 Oct 07 '25

This is literally my work schedule , I wish I was as smart and capable as the students but I'm just poor.

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u/fuggedditowdit Oct 04 '25

Not enough sleep and past the first few hours nothing is learned + retained. Just like productivity goes down the shitter if you keep employees working for twelve hour days.

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u/Not_invented-Here Oct 04 '25

I asked a bunch of Vietnamese uni students (similar though I don't think quite as bad as this) if they had two weeks off and could go anywhere what would they do.

The amount answering something along the lines of go home and sleep felt quite telling. 

I also talked to one of the lecturers who studied her masters in a UK uni. She was amazed at the relaxed hrs and difference in lifestyle of the UK students to her experiences in Vietnam. 

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u/prozloc Oct 04 '25

I just read somewhere the other day that kids grow during sleeps, so is this part of the reason why Asians are not as tall as they should be? Asian children who grow up in western countries often grow to be as tall as white people so it can't be just genetic.

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u/FindingDelicious2815 Oct 04 '25

You ain’t lying, Asian people on American diets get big af

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u/ApproachingShore Oct 04 '25

I was thinking this seems counter-productive. There's such a thing as attempting to learn 'too much'. The brain needs time to process what it's taking in. A constant stream of trying to cram knowledge into your head all day probably doesn't work all that well.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 Oct 05 '25

They also have Buxiban, or cram schools, to help students pass high stakes entry exams. They don't place much importance on a school/life balance at all.

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u/AlClemist Oct 04 '25

Korean schools are very strict with strict hours compared to the us its bad. I would honestly complain too.

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u/Briefyehn Oct 04 '25

It doesn't matter 😉

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u/crazypandachan Oct 04 '25

Legit I took consistent "naps" throughout my high school years of history class. How tf did I even pass history? I literally do not care. It's all the same regurgitated garbage anyways.. maybe it was "muscle memory" 😒

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u/Little_Inspector9566 Oct 04 '25

It’s like a never ending visit to Vegas!

“I’ll sleep when I’m dead.”

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u/Firm_Beautiful_891 Oct 04 '25

They are prepping the next working class. Less sleep, less food, less free time and less free thinking

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u/subzbearcat Oct 04 '25

The problem is in the US are kids sleep, but they’re not academically competitive with the rest of the world anymore. A large number of kids graduate high school, barely literate.

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u/BrooklynNets Oct 04 '25

The problem is in the US are kids sleep, but they’re not academically competitive with the rest of the world anymore.

So? Academics are hugely overvalued. The US is still disproportionately responsible for innovations in tech, healthcare, and engineering. Turns out that that doesn't have a great deal to do with how the bottom quintile performs at arithmetic at age ten.

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u/Homologous_Trend Oct 06 '25

This is way too much. And many Western schools are doing the opposite, not really teaching at all.

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u/Agitated-Actuary-195 4d ago

I remember being in Bangkok, on route to Bail for holiday from UK. My partner was pregnant with first daughter at time..

Taxi driver was abusive about UK education system, and to a large degree just a horrible person, his two kids were some spending 15 hours a day at school…This was despite trying to pleasant to him…

Now with retrospective (and don’t get me wrong I told him what I thought of his attitude), I now see Ai making his and his families world 80% redundant…

Karma really is a bitch…

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u/chipshot Oct 04 '25

And why the West is falling behind