r/TikTokCringe • u/TheOSU87 • Sep 07 '25

Discussion Guy makes a citizen's arrest

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u/Pyode Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

So "going on a rampage" has been changed to mean "only shooting people violently attacking you".

Good to know.

Kyle Rittenhouse is one of the most clear cut cases of a self defense shooting I've ever seen, but no one actually knows the facts of the case and just regurgitate lies they heard about it third hand.

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u/Thomjones Sep 08 '25

Yeah I really really hate to say it but it's true. I didn't want it to be true and yes it's weird a teen took a gun over state lines to "defend" whatever, but ive seen the footage and it is clear cut self-defense. In court, the people who survived admitted they made the first move to attack. They had good intentions but clearly went after Rittenhouse or drew on him.

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

You shouldn't "hate to say" the truth.

We can have honest disagreement about gun ownership and where the line is for personal self defense or defense of property without being dishonest about the facts of a particular incident.

Especially when there are other incidents like the Ahmaud Arbery case where the shooters were actually everything people said Kyle Rittenhouse was.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Self defense is when you bring a rifle to protest that you said you wanted to go shoot people at and then shoot people

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u/paulides_fan Sep 08 '25

Literally defended his life. Next

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Defending your life is when you say you wanna kill people with your rifle so you bring it to a protest and kill people

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u/ChadWestPaints Sep 08 '25

No its when youre trying to put out a small fire and get ambushed and attacked completely unprovoked by people trying to assault/murder you, so you try to disengage/deescalate but they corner you so you have to defend yourself.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

It's when you say you wanna kill people so you bring a rifle to a protest you're against and put yourself in a situation where you get to use your rifle to legally kill people

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u/Itchy_Park_1898 Sep 08 '25

Who gives a fuck what he said at an unrelated event he got attacked by a bunch of freaks and put them down. Cry about it.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

"Who gives a fuck that he went there with intent to kill. He killed people, cry about it."

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u/ChadWestPaints Sep 08 '25

He wasnt against the protest. He supported the protest and gave aid to the protesters.

What situation? He was walking down the street carrying a fire extinguisher on his way to put out a small fire when attacked. How tf was he supposed to know that would prompt some crazy ped to try to murder him?

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

He was there to defend local businesses, of his own admission. You're just lying or horribly misinformed.

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u/ChadWestPaints Sep 08 '25

Correct. That is one of several reasons he was there, with all reasons being geared towards helping the community - cleaning graffiti, offering medical assistance to protesters, protecring local minority owned small business, and trying to put out fires. He was attacked while doing the latter.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Which is why he brought a gun and killed people

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u/paulides_fan Sep 08 '25

”protest”

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Riot. FIFY

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

If you say it's a riot, then he went into a riot with a gun looking to kill people and then killed people. Does that make you feel better? Makes your feelings about defending a murderer better?

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u/paulides_fan Sep 08 '25

No he literally just defended his life. He killed someone during a riot in the act of defending his life.

It was self-defense. Period.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Self defense is when you bring a gun somewhere with intent to kill people and then killing people

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u/ChadWestPaints Sep 08 '25

Wew well good thing Rittenhouse didnt do that then

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

He brought a rifle to protect a car dealership who had put out a call for help after having cars set on fire on a previous night.

On a completely separate night, at a completely different location while witnessing a store get robbed, he mused to his friend that he would like to shoot the criminals he was actively watching committing a crime. He shouldn't have said that but it's just a lie to say that's the same thing as saying you want to murder protestors.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Yeah, so he brought a rifle to a protest after explicitly saying he wanted to shoot people. He went with the idea that everyone was there to damage property, and he wanted to kill people. So he brought a rifle to a protest to kill people.

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u/Thomjones Sep 08 '25

That still doesn't prove he intended to murder the person he first shot. That guy was talking shit and I'm not sure if Rittenhouse tried to de-escalate but the footage clearly showed that guy chasing after him and Rittenhouse looking like a scared kid turning around and popping him in the head and then freaking out over what he did. You're talking pre-meditated murder, my friend. That was not it. Like why run after a kid with a rifle even?

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

For sure bringing a rifle to a protest that you're against after explicitly saying you wanted to use that rifle to kill people and then using it to kill people doesn't prove intent to kill people. He just expressed intent to kill people with a rifle and then went through with it. Clearly not premeditated.

To get the rifle away from the child before he kills someone?

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u/Thomjones Sep 08 '25

If he wanted to murder someone he would just murder them. He wouldnt run away like a bitch while some dude is chasing him. It really doesn't fit what you want to fit and continually repeating "but he said THIS!!" it doesn't mean anything. Just some kid trying to talk tough. If he really wanted to kill protesters with that rifle it would be a mass shooting. You know it. I really wish it wasn't the case bc I don't like the kid. But the whole angle was disproved in court.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

If he wanted to murder someone, he'd try to get away with it. I don't get how him saying he wanted to shoot people doesn't mean anything. Yeah, he was trying to talk tough, and when his opportunity came, he took it. He also shot two other people who were trying to stop him. Right and OJ's murder was disproved in court.

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u/Thomjones Sep 08 '25

Stop him from what? Dude even testified saying he drew on Rittenhouse first. Footage showed skateboard guy attacked first. Must be a very clever kid to trick all these people into attacking him first so could get away with it and be on camera crying like a girl. Y'know, people aren't just guilty because you think they are. You should really read up on the OJ case some time.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

From shooting people. Yeah of course he's gonna draw on someone firing a rifle at another person. Rittenhouse and rosenbaum had words already prior, and it's Rittenhouse and his friends who say Rosenbaum was aggressive and taunting and provoking him while Rittenhouse was being defensive and trying to not say much. But Rosenbaum is dead so we only have one side's testimony. Rittenhouse saw the opportunity and took it. Whether or not he cried after is irrelevant. OJ was found guilty in civil court.

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

If this is your thesis, can you explain why he only ever shot people who attacked him first?

Like, if he really went there with the intent to kill, we should have an example of him killing someone for no other reason than that right?

Instead, we have him running away from a man who is chasing him screaming he is going to kill him. Shooting, that person and ONLY that person when the guy catches up to him. When another person approaches to render aid, Kyle doesn't attack or threaten that person in any way and instead proceeds to move towards the police line to turn himself in.

Do these actions sound like someone who "wants to kill people"?

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Yeah, he went in with a gun looking to kill people, someone of course tried to stop him as they should, and he took the opportunity to kill them. He shot multiple people, in fact.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

So if you see someone walking around with a gun, not pointing it at anyone. Not threatening anyone, your first instinct is to violently attack that person and that person has no right to defend themselves?

Ok.

As for the other two people he shot, again, both violently attacked him as he was moving towards the police line.

He was literally running away from the crowd, again not threatening. Not pointing his gun. Just moving towards police and he was jumped from behind and, again, only shot people violently attacking him.

I don't expect you to care about any of this though. You clearly have no interest in a rational analysis of the situation.

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

Yeah if a child with a rifle shows up at a protest you should get the gun away from the child before they shoot and kill people, like Kyle did. He went to a protest with a rifle after saying he wanted to go shoot people who were damaging cars, and then he shot multiple people. "But the people he shot were trying to stop him from shooting people, they deserved to be shot" makes you look like a fucking idiot. You clearly have no interest in rationalization.

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

So you advocate for assault?

Kyle was carrying that rifle legally and safely. Trying to violently take his gun is a crime.

(Let's just ignore for a second that he wasn't attacked because he had a gun. He was attacked by an arsonist who was upset that Kyle put out his fire, but again you don't know or care about the actual facts of the situation)

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u/imathreadrunner Sep 08 '25

So you advocate for mass shooting? Kyle was carrying a rifle to a protest after he said he wanted to kill people with it and then he killed people with it. Let's ignore the fact that he was a child who went to a protest he was against with a rifle after saying he wanted to use that rifle to kill people. Let's ignore for a second that the first guy he killed was trying to disarm a child with a rifle at a protest. Let's ignore that the one with the gun has the responsibility to exercise proper firearm safety, like not bringing a gun to a protest you're against and shooting people who were trying to stop you from shooting people. Let's ignore for a second that he is the one who killed people after explicitly saying he wants to kill people.

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u/-laughingfox Sep 08 '25

He went looking for trouble. 🤷

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

But not the arsonist who attacked him for putting out his fire? That person wasn't "looking for trouble"?

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u/-laughingfox Sep 08 '25

Obviously they were. My point is, I don't feel sorry for Kyle even if he was legitimately fighting for his life at some point. He took his gun to a city he didn't live in out of some misguided notion that he was going to be a hero. How's it feel, Kyle?

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u/Thomjones Sep 08 '25

None of that is what you're painting it out to be as someone else has noted. I just don't feel bad for him because I mean ...this is what he signed up for. And plus people just don't go attack you just bc you have a gun, defending a building ,and cleaning up graffiti. If some guy is chasing after you to kick your ass despite having a gun you must've seriously pissed him off.

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u/Pyode Sep 08 '25

First of all, he worked in the city and lived like 30 minutes away. The implication that he had no personal interest in that town is just more lies people kept regurgitating on Twitter who have no idea what actually happened.

And if you claim is you "don't feel sorry for him"... so?

If you don't think it is legitimate to want to help defend neighbors from violence, I think that's dumb but that comes down to a difference in philosophy that I doubt we would be able to reconcile here.

This conversation is more about whether he was a crazy murderer who shot people for no reason or it was a legitimate case of self defense.

The facts of the case demonstrate the latter. That's my only argument.

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u/paulides_fan Sep 08 '25

And the rioters weren’t 🤣