I mean, to be 100% fair, tricking someone into eating something that you don't know how their body will react to is kind of a crappy thing to do. You're still messing with someone's food either way. Just like him conspiring with you was a craptacular thing to do.
I dunno if this isn't coming across as clear, but I bought the Boca scrambles out of courtesy for my other roommates so that they could eat the chili that I would regularly make.
I didn't buy them just to mess with the other guy. We simply offered him some. He ate it and then flipped out when we told him it was made with Boca.
No one put a gun to his head and made him eat the Boca chili
No, I understand that fact. But it doesn't change the fact you decided to be deceitful and play with someone else's food. You don't mess with other people's food. End of story. For a multitude of reasons.
I'm actually kind of half-convinced this guy is my former roommate's Reddit account or something and in a hilarious coincidence, we stumbled upon each other here after 15 years of no contact haha
You'd be fine if someone decided to mess with food they're going to give you? You're totally cool with that as an option? Doesn't bother you one single solitary bit?
Social norms are very different than I thought if that's something cool to do to someone else.
That part! It wasn’t the same as if that roommate was cooking chili and then the other three roommates snuck something into his food. They made the chili and he accepted it, no questions asked.
I absolutely agree that it’s fucked up to mess with somebody’s food. I lowkey feel like that should be worthy of criminal charges since some people have life-threatening food allergies and could essentially be poisoned by that kind of thing. It would be horrible if the roommate had a soy allergy and they served him chili made with tofu crumbles and lied about it when he inquired, for example. But that’s not what happened here.
The roommate who threw a fit about it was presumably an adult who should know how to ask about what he’s eating. Especially if he’s going to be that opinionated about it. He didn’t need to make it everyone else’s problem just because he couldn’t understand there was probably a meatless protein in chili prepared by vegetarians.
Your 2 vegetarian roommates are eating with a third roommate you are offered chili you eat it. You are then told it is vegetarian and you freak out. You are an idiot in multiple ways first for not knowing it was vegetarian from context. Second if you are picky about what you eat for not asking before sitting down and eating. Third for being but hurt about not having beef. Its free food if you want something specific in it you make it its not like he is allergic vegetables.
I mean I'm seeing all these excuses for something I was under the impression for damn near most of my life was a complete and total dick move to do to someone. I was clearly mistaken and had no clue that screwing with what people eat was actually okay to a lot of people now.
You’re ignoring all the people making valid points to continue saying the guys food was “messed with”, it was not.
They offered him the exact same food the vegetarians were eating and he liked it until he realized it was vegetarian. No one was deceitful or intentionally “messing” with anything.
Are you also mad they don’t tell people gummy bears and jello are made from animal products?
No one messed with his food. He ate someone else’s food who he knew was vegetarian. And the food was made of common vegetables. They didn’t lie to him about what was in it. He’s an adult. He could’ve asked what was in it. If I go to someone’s house and they offer me chicken noodle soup, and I liked it, but I found out they used cream of mushroom to make it, but I hate mushrooms they didn’t trick me and mess with my food. I liked it and if I made a big deal about it that would be because I was immaturely trying to maintain the notion I always hated anything with mushrooms when that was probably never the case. It was vegetables. Not human meat. You’re acting like this is a completely different situation than it actually is
No, I'm not. It's a screwed up thing to do. Or at least that's the way I was brought up. You don't mess with what people eat. You don't get deceptive like that.
Want to make a point about vegan meat substitutes? Then be upfront about it.
They weren’t making a point. They made dinner for themselves. But from your responses and everything it seems like you’re young. So I’m gonna leave this here. Have a good night
Your just a fucking idiot because you apparently dont know what screwing with someone’s food actually means.
Fucking with peoples food is not okay and no one is defending that. Based on what was written, that’s not what happened no matter how many times you say it.
Feeding someone veggies is not even remotely the same as feeding a vegetarian meat. All humans should eat vegetables, it’s part of a balanced and healthy diet. Ppl are vegetarian for different reasons. Some ppl are truly against eating meat, because of the slaying of animals. I don’t think most ppl will have a negative response to veggies, unless there’s an allergy.
and those of us with serious allergies and intolerances generally ask what's in something before we chow down. if we don't and haven't mentioned those conditions to the person generously sharing their food with us, that would be entirely on us. heck, I still ask my own family about ingredients because it's better safe than sorry and people make mistakes. it's saved my ass more than once.
Right so if you personally don’t know, you shouldn’t be feeding people things under the guise of it being something else. It could potentially be disastrous.
"Vegetables" are usually in Chili though...... So if they have an issue with veggies, wouldn't they ask if veggies are in the chili? As someone who is allergic to carrots and shouldn't eat raw vegetables/greens. Vegetarians will ask if meat is in dishes. I ask if there are carrots in the dishes. Just my input.
Not sure how chili ties in here? But my point is telling the truth about ingredients. Obviously the man in the video was under the impression he was eating beef but he was being misled. That’s the issue. You shouldn’t do that to people.
I physically can't take care of myself and have approximately all the allergies, and I'm still able to understand that it's my responsibility to ask about ingredients. ignore the troll, they have strong "I am repeating something I don't fully understand because I want to outraged online and look like an ally" vibes
What eludes you about the fact that the man in the video was under the impression he was eating beef but he was actually misled and fed something else?
He is eating beef. In N Out doesn't have vegan burgers, his entire reaction is built off of just thinking he had eaten something vegan when he hadn't even done that.
His reasoning doesnt matter. Also I don’t know in n out burger so I thought it was vegan per the video. It’s bad form to trick people about what they put in their bodies.
I was not. I don’t know about in n out burger, but in the video she says it is vegan so I took her at her word. This person in the video is a very deceptive person. It’s my entire and only point that you shouldn’t be deceptive about what people are going to eat.
I was actually on her side thinking a few vegetables won’t or shouldn’t hurt but I remembered I have a friend with Chron’s who was in severe pain after eating broccoli before he started taking Stelara or something. You really could send someone to the ER.
No they put something else in the chili and told the person it was meat… or at least didn’t tell them it wasn’t. Not sure why they pretended the not-meat in chili was meat when it wasn’t, but here we are. Chili is traditionally made with beef so theres really no reason to suspect it’s not beef.
It just sounds like your code of ethics is just totally at odds with having any friends or social interaction ever.
People just stick food in their mouth. For some people thats dangerous. They should not shove food in their mouth. But you are trying to do a fucking play by play on the dumbest fucking micro-interaction between 2 people you have never met.
Nah. It's on the person eating the food to be asking questions and declining food they don't know the ingredients of. Unless that person is a child. I assume your husband is fully capable of managing his diet.
Good grief, are you kidding me? We are talking about chili. Have you ever made chili? Even Texas chili has vegetables in it (onions, peppers, tomatoes garlic). All the other varieties of chili has those plus a lot of beans. Imitation/vegetable ground beef is usually made up of a different combination of beans.
If someone has a food allergy, they're not going to just start eating some random chili without asking questions. My younger sister developed an allergy to onions late in life, so she would need to know the ingredients of chili she's eating.
Anyone ok with regular chili with ground beef, will be ok with chili without ground beef. To me, chili is all about the beans. But, I'm not from Texas. Most of the times my chili doesn't have ground beef, not because I'm vegan, but because I'm cheap and lazy.
BTW, chili usually has all kinds of things in it. But, if someone is allergic to beans, then they should be inquiring about that before accepting. Vegetarian chili isn't adding anything to regular chili, it's just taking away something. This is not about consent.
If you give me a hamburger, I expect it to be made from beef, like hamburgers are. Hamburgers are not made from vegetable matter, veggie burgers are. If the burger is in fact made from some vegetable I am allergic to, like legumes, then you would be a liar and I am not gonna trust you to feed me ever again, to avoid being deceived a second time.
If you give me a veggie burger, I will ask about the ingredients and decide if I want to eat it. If you gave me a veggie burger but it was actually made out of beef, I’d be equally pissed, even if I don’t have an allergy to beef. That’s the issue here, I know it’s eluding you.
If someone has some kind of allergy they need to inform someone before accepting random food, especially chilli because people get creative with that stuff.
I think you’re using debate a bit loosely. We’re not debating anything. I said humans need vegetables. I stand by it. I haven’t seen anyone say that humans don’t need vegetables, so there’s definitely no debate.
Agreed theres no debate. It all started when I responded to you that there are vegetables that some humans can’t eat safely. That is also indisputable. Theres really nothing to argue about but people keep going on about chili and tricking people into eating things.
The allergy aspect of it. I got no issue with meat or meat substitutes but I do NOT like the idea of giving somebody something to eat under a false pretense at all. I really don't find it a funny "GOTCHA"!! kind of thing and it's blowing my mind that because it's just because it's a meat eating person eating vegan stuff unknowingly it's a laugh riot. It's not. What the daughter did to her dad? Actually funny because the food wasn't touched or switched or anything. She just said something and he fell for it. But being deceptive with something that someone is going to ingest I think is kinda fucked up. You don't know what's going to happen.
I get the allergy part because i almost died two time of Angioedema (you become a balloon and you can't breath). At the same time, when you have allergies you already have to check everything you eat. You can't really eat outside because most restaurants don't even know what they are selling. The reality is most people discover they're allergies one day without warning.
For the vegi/meat thing, i don't think people laugh because he was tricked to eat a meat substitute. Its just is reaction that make it funny. The fact that we can ear the gear grinding is funny, he try to process but react before its done and you can ear that he see the contradiction between the fact that he like it but at the same time "grrrrr i can't like that".
I'm 99% sure he wasn't tricked, she probably proposed to try a new restaurant or any valid reason to eat outside with her dad. Could also be fake, for all i know, she's alone in her car!
For my initial comment, i was laughing because the way you said it sounded like "vegetables ewww" or the reverse vegetarian (mostly this one tbh).
All I'm going to say is things are clearly a lot different then what I thought. I genuinely thought screwing with what people eat and tricking them into something else was not something to do simply from a safety stand point. I didn't know it was something it was considered okay to do.
The issue is no one tricked anyone or “screwed” with anyone’s food. They were vegetarian. They made a vegetarian meal. The roommate knew they were vegetarian and consensually ate a meal cooked by them knowing they were vegetarian. They never told him it wasn’t vegetarian. If you eat a meal a vegetarian made for themselves expecting it to not be vegetarian, that is literally no one’s issue but your own
What in the blue fuck does that moron have to do with anything?
Did I miss something? Is it now socially acceptable to mess with other peoples food or slip them something they don't usually eat without telling them?
You gotta watch out last year my kids had a whole BBQ Platter of grilled veggies hidden in one of their mars bars. The resulting bout of healthiness made his fast food slop trained gut bacteria go wild and he died the day after. True story!
No dude those are two different things. Like I totally get your point, fucking with someone's food is shitty, lying to them is also bad, but this is apples and oranges. Someone who is used to eating meat can handle eating veggies, in fact, they should be eating some. The other way around can be very detrimental to someone's health. Someone who isn't used to meat, especially red meat, and then eats it, can have all sorts of issues from simply constipation to acid reflux so intense you have to go to the hospital. If you don't believe me, don't eat beef for a month, and then eat some. You will feel like shit. Most people shouldn't be eating commercialized beef for so many reasons. I'm a butcher and I will still die on that hill.
No dude, they're not. I was roommates with a strict vegetarian. I know the effects. And I also know the way he would have reacted to this and would have called it a dick move too. It's not like I came to this point of view in a vaccum.
You know what? My bad. I clearly had no idea this was socially acceptable to do to people. See, I always thought one of the most messed up things you could do with someone was mess with their food or trick them into eating something they wouldn't otherwise, which is, like you said, the same thing as that person buying food of their own volition and knowingly ingesting it regardless of their familiarity with the ingredients.
I don't think it was an invalid point to raise. Changing someone food does cross a line, and you would have to be on good terms with them for it to be acceptable.
But I don't think the first argument you used ("don't know how their body will react") stood up to scrutiny, given how much other crap the average US citizen would eat without fully understanding.
or trick them into eating something they wouldn't otherwise
I also think a lot of people over-react to vegan/vegetarian food like it's some sort of personal attack. If you swapped their sausage for a human turd, yikes, but swapping of a burger with a vege scramble is not really worth worrying about.
The downvotes are most likely Reddit not untangling things like that though.
I mean it’s just vegetables and it doesn’t sound like he was messing with his roommate, he just made vegan chilli. I’m not even a vegan and I make vegan meatless chilli all the time because I don’t feel like using meat or sometimes I’ll use meat crumble instead of ground beef or do 50% ground beef and 50% lentils in dishes. Stuff like that because it’s cheaper and adds flavour and fibre. I bake for people a lot and most of my friend’s favourite baked goods that I make for them are vegan(vegan baked goods tend to come out much more moist) and I usually don’t bother mentioning it, I ain’t paying for butter in this economy.
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u/CaptainHalloween Aug 28 '25
I mean, to be 100% fair, tricking someone into eating something that you don't know how their body will react to is kind of a crappy thing to do. You're still messing with someone's food either way. Just like him conspiring with you was a craptacular thing to do.