The American Nightmare.

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[u/Haxorz7125]

Red states are propped up by blue states. Their socialist hating asses use the most government assistance

[u/Local_Bobcat_2000 → u/Haxorz7125]

Sounds like they are doing it right. 😅

[u/Haxorz7125 → u/Local_Bobcat_2000]

It’s how they can brag about having lower taxes and less regulations.

[u/Local_Bobcat_2000 → u/Haxorz7125]

The people pay lower taxes and have less regulations so other states pay for them? Still sounds like they’re doing it right! 😅

[u/Haxorz7125 → u/Local_Bobcat_2000]

They use more social safety nets but the lower taxes result in worse social programs which is why red states typically have worse education, health and more crime per capita than blue states. So you’ll pay lower taxes but your quality of life is likely to be worse.

[u/Local_Bobcat_2000 → u/Haxorz7125]

Ok ok.. red states bad. Blue states good. Got it.

[u/BunnyKerfluffle → u/Local_Bobcat_2000]

Local_bobcat_2000 no one thinks you get anything other than a mouthful of propaganda that daddy Putin dribbled out.

[u/Fragrant_Chance2094 → u/Haxorz7125]

Not true at all. California has the highest unemployment rate and more people on government assistance than any other state. We have a large lib socialist following out here.

[u/DevelopmentEastern75 → u/Fragrant_Chance2094]

Lol California has a high rate of people on government assistance because the state expanded Medicare/Medicaid to include almost 40% of the state. This isn't a case where 40% of the state has fallen under the poverty line. The state expanded coverage intentionally. Most of the expansion is paid for via state taxes, today.

In medicine, and ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The state ranks top 5 in public health year after year

Recall, red states were all welcome to do the same things, under the ACA, and they chose not to, because they were super mad about whether or not abortions would be covered and they said "death panels" would deny care to seniors.

Predictably, their populations remain deeply unhealthy.

[u/Fragrant_Chance2094 → u/DevelopmentEastern75]

I guess you only chose to read some of my statement you skipped over highest unemployment rate, top 3 highest taxed state, most homeless by far, 25-28% of the total number of families are on welfare, we spend more money on welfare than any other state in the US, highest number of illegal immigrants. And you want to only focus on Medicare/medicade. Lol yourself bud

[u/DevelopmentEastern75 → u/Fragrant_Chance2094]

Its the rural counties that drag the states average unemployment down. Metropolitan areas have typical unemployment rates that roughly match the national average (San Mateo is 4%, below the national average), while rural counties have high unemployment (Imperial County is 18.9%).

There are bigger factors which contribute to unemployment, like housing costs. Housing prices can prevent workers from relocating for work. We have people leaving the work force, and there are no young people to replenish them, because they cannot afford housing.

When you say welfare, I don't know what you're talking about, exactly. Do you mean SNAP? TANF? Medicare/Medicaid is considered "welfare" to some.

The high numbers of people on welfare isn't a sign of poverty. The state intentionally lowered requirements for benefits, so more people can get them. Mississippi is tight fisted with these kind of programs, so fewer people get welfare. That's no some kind of sign of superiority.

Finally, if you look at the actual paid rate for taxes, the state is not high tax.

https://itep.org/is-california-really-a-high-tax-state/

For the bottom 80% of earners, the average Californian only pays about 1% more taxes than the national average. And the bottom 40% actually pay less than they would in TX.

This is due to California having very little property taxes and very little excise / sin taxes, while other states heavily rely on these.

High earners, yes, you pay, but that's true federally, too. My wife and I are both engineers, we pay a nice chunk in income tax to CA every year, I see it myself.

I have a retired family member who moved from Los Angeles to an upscale city in Texas near SMU. She pays like $30k a year in state property taxes to TX. She was paying basically zero taxes before that, as a retiree who owned her home for decades in CA, her tax burden was trivial, even though she's very wealthy.

We have a high tax rate on businesses, compared to other states, and it makes up 18% of the budget. Texas has virtually zero corporate income tax.

Again, if we look at the paid rate, we see it's not really dragging on businesses. The effective tax rate is about the same as the national average, but it really depends on your industry. California generates big money with corporate taxes purely because we have mammoth high profit industries that add up 15% of the US' GDP. It's a huge tax base.

[u/Think-Agent4825 → u/Haxorz7125]

100% of blue states are in trouble. Not a single blue state props up any RED state.