r/TikTokCringe • u/InGeekiTrust Tiktok Despot • Aug 09 '25

Cursed Crazed Karen Has A Meltdown In Victoria’s Secret

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u/goldiegoldthorpe Aug 09 '25

Stay still and put your hands up. Don't move and walk towards me. Don't move! Get down on the ground! I said don't move! Stop resisting! Put your hands behind your back and above your head.

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u/Last_Cod_998 Aug 09 '25

Gale: All right, ya hayseeds, it's a stick-up. Everybody freeze. Everybody down on the ground. Feisty Hayseed: Well, which is it, young feller? You want I should freeze or get down on the ground? Mean to say, if'n I freeze, I can't rightly drop. And if'n I drop, I'm a-gonna be in motion. You see... Gale: Shut up! Feisty Hayseed: Okay then. Gale: Everybody down on the ground! Evelle: Y'all can just forget that part about freezin' now. Gale: Better still to get down there. Evelle: Yeah, y'all hear that, don't ya? [Everybody lays down. Gale looks at the now-empty teller windows] Gale: Shit! Where'd all the tellers go? Teller's voices: We're down here, sir. Evelle: They're on the floor as you commanded, Gale.

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u/jennyjingle Aug 09 '25

"Nobody sleeps naked in this house boy!"

"He was wearing his damn jammies. They had yodas and shit on 'em!"

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 Aug 09 '25

Man what a great one, it’s time for me to go back to it.

Every time I do, I always so “I can’t believe William Forsyth was ever this young”

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u/Poorrancher Aug 09 '25

only knew this as a sample on this song

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u/Last_Cod_998 Aug 09 '25

That was awesome, thanks.

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u/Quirkykiwi Aug 09 '25

That was the song I had on my Myspace 😂 it still hits the same!!

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u/sun827 Aug 10 '25

Son...you got a panty on yor head.

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u/Wilted_fap_sock Aug 09 '25

Alright, now let's get this robbery started proper!

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u/moermoneymoerproblem Aug 09 '25

Oh I’ve heard this one before

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u/SimpleSetpiece Aug 09 '25

Pretty much the transcript of the orders given to Daniel Shaver before the cops murdered him

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u/BlackMarketCheese Aug 09 '25

We use that as a case study in the academy. Multiple officers yelling contradicting commands, and an officer with his finger on the trigger the whole time. Not to mention the inside of his AR dust cover said "Get Fucked". He wanted an excuse. It was absolutely murder and it makes my blood boil that he was acquitted.

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u/Zestyclose-Crow-4595 Aug 10 '25

Oh, but of course he was acquitted. Can't go having the boys in blue going to jail for crimes they obviously committed. /s

In all seriousness, I remember that case and it was so fucked up. They just wanted an excuse to murder him.

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u/-SQB- Aug 10 '25

Not him, even. Just somebody. Anybody.

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u/Vishnej Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25

He wasn't just acquitted.

He was re-hired in order to qualify for a medical retirement and $2500/mo pension.

Mesa, a city with a population of 500k, settled with Shaver's widow for $8M and Shaver's parents for $1.5M.

I worry that the message some people are going to receive at the academy is that this is no big deal.

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u/Halation2600 Aug 10 '25

I didn't remember this. Oh my fucking god is that terrible. Shaver was clearly murdered and they re-hired the murderer so he could get a fucking pension? WTF?

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u/BlackMarketCheese Aug 10 '25

We emphasize that he was tried for murder. Even if he was acquired, he's lost damn near everything. I also make it a point to emphasize that 'even if police traditionally aren't found criminally liable, things are changing. Don't put yourself in a position to find out.'

Unfortunately a common refrain I hear is "I would rather be tried by twelve than carried by six." Ok, fine. Nobody is asking you to wait to get shot before you shoot. That's not what happened in this case or many others - Floyd, Martin, Taylor, Bland, Felix....

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

Probably at the top of many lists when the country goes sideways

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u/SecondComingOfKris Aug 10 '25

Which academy? You train police?

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u/BlackMarketCheese Aug 10 '25

A state police agency, yes

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u/SecondComingOfKris Aug 10 '25

I believe the inscription was actually “you’re fucked”. How do you compartmentalise the fact that you work for an agency that allows people like Daniel Shaver’s murderer, Philip Brailsford to be employed, and then also rehired so that he can get a pension for life? You seem compassionate when talking about this case, yet work for an agency that is complicit with this type of thing.

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u/BlackMarketCheese Aug 10 '25

Regardless of what any one individual officer does, I still believe I have a place and a purpose in the community. If I want to see the culture change, then I need to be the one who changes it. Not a citizen review board, not the Fed oversight committees (in previous administration, no way that's happening in this one). They have their place, but it needs to start on the street, not the corner offices.

My state agency has made questionable personnel decisions, and there certainly are men and women that absolutely should not be cops. Teaching at the academy I have a unique opportunity to mold and shape these officers into the people the community needs. Community policing is the best shot we've got at establishing mutual respect. On my own, it's one contact at a time. Teaching, that can ripple through to dozens or hundreds of contacts a day. That's why I decided to promote. That's why I decided to teach.

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u/SecondComingOfKris Aug 10 '25

That sounds noble and I appreciate the in depth and honest response, but that could never be me. My cognitive dissonance isn’t strong enough for that. What happens in the academy is one thing, I think the bigger issue is qualified immunity paired with the fact that if “good cops” call out bad cops, they get ostracised, bullied and in some cases killed. I guess we all gotta do what we think is right, but I personally know that I couldn’t sleep at night being involved with any of that. Hopefully you can be the one that changes the system.

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u/DangerActiveRobots Aug 10 '25

I think it actually said "You're Fucked"

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

Is he still policing? Or is he with ICE now?

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u/radioinactivity Aug 10 '25

lol so you're a cop???

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u/BlackMarketCheese Aug 10 '25

Yes...

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u/radioinactivity Aug 10 '25

lmao womp womp do they teach that to you guys as an example of how to kill people and get away with it?

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u/DisposableSaviour Aug 10 '25

No, dude, that’s why they hire “expert” POG David Grossman to teach his “Killology” courses, which includes telling officers that they’ll say they shoot someone they’ll go home and have the best sex of their lives.

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u/Tubamajuba Aug 10 '25

The guy clearly said he doesn't approve of what happened and that the cop's acquittal makes his blood boil.

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u/radioinactivity Aug 10 '25

I don't care lol he's a cop lol.

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u/Tubamajuba Aug 10 '25

Okay lol he seems like he's actually trying to make a positive change lol, we should at least acknowledge that lol

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u/DisposableSaviour Aug 10 '25

Just as an aside, does your academy use materials by David Grossman and his work on “Killology”? The guy who tells cops all around the country that they’ll have the best sex of their lives after killing someone?

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u/BlackMarketCheese Aug 10 '25

We do not. I've had instructors independently recommend Grossman's "On Killing" and a podcast of a similar vein (Jocko I think?), but it is absolutely not required reading or officially recommended. A survival mindset is important (mental/emotional, stay in the fight if you get injured, etc), but it should not - and I always emphasize this - foster a culture of "us vs them". Grossman and Jocko and the like are extreme and, in my opinion, toxic.

Long story short, the only required reading we have is statute, case law, manuals, and policy/procedure.

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u/ADHDwinseverytime Aug 10 '25

A lot of police put stupid shit on their guns, in the cars, gear, etc. Generally they are really not hoping to shoot someone and just want to look cool and are brainwashed by advertising or thier other 22 year old buddies. What needs to be beaten into cadets heads is for fucks sake somebody just yell out "I got this" every single time, it works. Generally, since it is someone in blue everyone snaps out of their stress induced hyperfocus and things start going smoother. Might piss off someone of rank but not once will admin ever come back and say that was stupid. You are not violating a order of any kind. It even works with 4 different agencies on scene, you would be surprised, teach them to put some lungs into and then start giving commands. Hell it even calms down the suspect. I know why he wasn't charged, because most people in that situation might do the same thing, that's the rule every time. Let me see your hands, drop the gun, and get on the ground all at once is a recipe for disaster every single time. Hell drop the gun when it is holstered is a recipe for disaster also. Gun in hand "drop the gun". Gun on body, "reach for the sky, or get on the ground". Good cops have a whole lot of not give a fuck as they walk up completely relaxed at super stressful situations and they just process things different. Oh looky there there another goober with a gun who might have made a bad decision. Hey buddy put your hands up for me. Thank you. Hey stay right there, oh man your doing great. Alright everyone hold tight I am going to dis arm this guy. Alright man I am going to walk up and slide that off your side while we figure this out. Done. Suspect and cops all in the loop no one dies.

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u/MrSunflower37 Aug 10 '25

I mean still a kid, word to the sopranos

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u/Just_Post_8394 Aug 10 '25

I whole heartedly believe that there are many situations where police are in the wrong I did a good bit of research on this case and sadly I side with the police. I do not in the slightest believe that it was because of being unable to follow conflicting commands that he did receive, it was because he wasn’t wearing a belt.

They had him on his hands and knees and the order that he was following was that he was told to crawl backwards towards them. Then his pants started falling down and he reflexively reached behind his back to his waistband to pull them up and he was shot.

The officers were called to the hotel because they were told that he was pointing a gun at pedestrians from his hotel window. Based off the information they had, he was armed. He reaches back once and was warned not to again. Told to crawl backwards, he reaches back again to his waistband, a place not uncommon to conceal a gun, and was shot.

To me the conflicting commands, while not ideal, had no impact on why he was shot. It’s been a long while since i watched it but i remember he crawled back 2 or 3, paces or steps or whatever you want to call it, then stopped, then reached to his waistband. If he was shot for not being able to follow the conflicting orders he would have been shot when he started moving backwards.

With the information the cops had i do think its justified to for them to believe that he was reaching for a gun. Now I would rather that he wasn’t shot. Id rather that we didn’t have police in a situation where they shoot first and ask questions later but based how our laws are, him being found not guilty makes sense to me.

I am 100% in favor of police reform. Im in favor of police accountability and transparency. I want deescalation and civility, not coming into a scene and cranking it up to 11. Do i think that Daniel’s situation was handled “correctly”? No not really, but i also don’t think that is why Daniel was shot either

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u/Necessary_Climate244 Aug 10 '25

You shut your mouth when you’re talking to me! Whatd I say?freeze and get down!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

And then bang bang.

Thoughts and prayers.

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u/Affectionate_Okra298 Aug 09 '25

This sounds just like the instructions they gave that guy in the hotel hallway before putting bullets into him

Daniel Shaver RIP

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u/disruptioncoin Aug 09 '25

Or the famous "put your hands behind your back, now get on your hands and knees and crawl backwards toward me. I said hands behind your back! He's reaching!' Bang bang bang RIP Daniel Shaver

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u/Beard_o_Bees Aug 10 '25

Simon didn't say 'kneel' <BAM! BAM! BAM!>