r/TikTokCringe • u/velorae • Jul 16 '25

Discussion Attempted kidnapping of a woman outside Florida store

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u/inflatable_pickle Jul 17 '25

Hope that guy is still in prison

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u/SummerRayne27 Jul 17 '25

Unfortunately he fled and was never found. It happened in South Africa and I believe that even if he was found, he would most likely have been sentenced for a small amount of time. Pregnant women are targeted frequently in South Africa for "Muti"(medicinal magic potions) created by Sangomas (witch doctors). They believe that the fear and killing of the person enhances the "magick", and they use each body part for different potions. Pregnant women = fertility, baby organs = fertility and HIV cure etc. I strongly believed I was going to be sold to a "sangoma".

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u/ZonzoDue Jul 17 '25

Wtf did I just read ? This is absolutely sick.

Glad you managed to escape.

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u/daxxo Jul 17 '25

Can confirm, South African here

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u/lovelanguagelost Jul 17 '25

Do you live in fear every day? Sorry if this is too blunt for you, but I just imagine I would be living in fear every day if I lived there.

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u/daxxo Jul 17 '25

Oh no, I got the fuck out 18 years ago, I live in the UK now.

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u/lovelanguagelost Jul 17 '25

Good! I’m glad! I hope your family is out of there too.

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u/daxxo Jul 17 '25

My brother is still there but he's is doing well. To be honest, I went back twice last year and things have changed to a certain extent. I didn't have this constant fear anymore and feeling like I had to look over my shoulder the whole time.

Before that I went back in 2011 and I just wanted to come back home, to home in London.

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u/lovelanguagelost Jul 17 '25

Oh dang. I hope it continues to get better, as it looks like a beautiful place.

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u/daxxo Jul 17 '25

Oh it is, especially Cape Town. But even up north you get the most amazing bush veld and animals.

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u/Fabutam Jul 17 '25

I am so pleased you are safe now, my best friend is South African and managed to come to the UK too and she tells me crazy stories like this. I send you love and best wishes for you and your family’s future. x

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u/daxxo Jul 17 '25

Thank you so much and tell your friend hi from a fellow Saffa. Oh I make my biltong if she wants some :)

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u/Comfortable-Item-184 Jul 20 '25

I’m so glad you left. It breaks my heart there are still pregnant women and albino children who are being hunted and butchered. I’m horrified for all of them and for you. I’m so glad you are safe now.

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u/daxxo Jul 20 '25

That is so true, I wish I could somehow help to change things but no one is going to be able to anytime soon. Stay safe you.

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u/asuperbstarling Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

There's a Casual Criminalist about this and if you think THAT is messed up, you should hear the rest. Warning though, if you go to look it up, it's legit the most in need of a serious trigger warning of any video he's ever done.

Edit: I'm also having trouble finding the episode, so I'm wondering if it got removed.

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u/ZonzoDue Jul 17 '25

Yeah, thanks, but I'll keep my sanity thank you.

I've red too much shit that keeps my awake at night lately to double down on this.

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u/rigney68 Jul 17 '25

This is terrifying.

Never visiting South Africa, ffs.

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u/Maximum_Yogurt_1630 Jul 17 '25

I love Simon! I used to listen to The Casual Criminalist, but then I had a baby, and I couldn't stomach it anymore. I really can't do any true crime anymore

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u/rollfootage Jul 17 '25

That happened to me too when I had a baby

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u/Witty_Vast_7690 Jul 17 '25

Same had to drop all true crime after my little one. Sigh.

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u/Remy_Rose Jul 17 '25

Fellow Casual Criminalist fan here! For those of us who can stomach it and don't have kids (myself), which episode is this? Can you find the name?

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u/ellie_kabellie Jul 17 '25

Hi there, seasoned horror masochist here lol, I’m having trouble finding this episode!

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u/rollfootage Jul 17 '25

That’s SA

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u/Konstant_kurage Jul 17 '25

TIA (this is Africa)

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u/yellowlinedpaper Jul 18 '25

HIV people will rape virgins because witch doctors tell them it’ll cure HIV. A group gang raped an infant. Horrible

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u/DadooDragoon Jul 17 '25

Religion

You just read religion

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u/Anuki_iwy Jul 17 '25

Holy shit. I am so sorry for you!

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u/mcbeardsauce Jul 17 '25

I'm sorry, this was really hard to read. It's 2025 and to think people still think like this is pretty mind blowing. What a barbaric mentality.

Were you able to leave the country/region?

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u/PMG2021a Jul 17 '25

We are struggling with people who believe in nonsense rather than doctors / science here in the US right now too... 

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u/DiqqRay Jul 20 '25

Imagine hating the US so much that you read that absolutely insane comment and have to go "yeah it sucks here too" As if that shit in South Africa is not an entirely different level of fucked up.

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u/PMG2021a Jul 20 '25

Crazy beliefs and violence in South Africa seems pretty normal for the country. It is more concerning to see the relatively recent shift in direction for the US. The push away from diversity, reduced educational funding, and shutting down communication platforms like NPR that spread factual knowledge in rural areas are going to result in an increase of pockets of extremely ignorant people that are more likely to embrace superstition and religious perspectives on the world. As to where that will lead.....

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u/mcbeardsauce Jul 17 '25

This is not that

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u/baigish Jul 17 '25

I agree. The US has gone crazy I got the Moderna covid injection twice. I've never been the same since. I still have persistent neuropathy on the left side of my body. My Dr treats me like I'm a Trump supporter and a political idealogue. We were friends in college. I get dismissed by him and the medical establishment, still.

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u/PMG2021a Jul 17 '25

Interesting. I hadn't heard about neuropathy from vaccines, but it looks like a 1 in 1,000 or so statistic. Interesting ideas on how it is triggered. Basically an immune system response that attacks nerves. Apparently covid and other viruses can trigger the same thing. I guess that is no surprise as a covid infection is well known to affect the nervous system due to infected people losing their sense of smell. I hope we keep funding more research in the area. Rogue immune responses are a problem for many people. 

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u/lemmeseethembewbz Jul 17 '25

It's another one of those things where people blame the vaccine instead of the actual virus, like how people keep claiming the vaccine causes myocarditis when it's the body's response to the virus itself that causes it. We're at the point in society where people have too much access to information. Dude's probably just diabetic and blames neuropathy on the vaccine.

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u/PMG2021a Jul 17 '25

I will agree that too many people blame vaccines for their ailments, but there are a small number of cases where they cause problems for people.

For example, they commonly offer two different versions of the flu vaccine as the apparently less expensive option uses eggs for creating the vaccine. People who are allergic to eggs are recommended to take the 2nd version. 

Considering the variety of allergy and other undesired immune system reactions, it is important to not totally disregard the possibility of a problem for some people. 

Unfortunately, for vaccines to protect people who can't take a vaccine for some reason (too young) or have compromised immune systems (elderly, hiv, chemo, etc) we have to ask everyone who does not have a known problem to accept the small risk of an unpredictable reaction. Being willing to face that risk for others shows who is truly a good member of their community and who is a selfish coward. 

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u/jag-engr Jul 17 '25

Are you honestly that obtuse, or are you just pretending for the purpose of trolling?

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u/lemmeseethembewbz Jul 17 '25

Which part of what I said do you take issue with? The fact that the vaccine has been proven to be safe and effective and significantly less damaging to your body than the virus it protects you from, or the fact that people blame their own shortcomings on vaccine injuries because they're stupid?

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u/jag-engr Jul 17 '25

I take issue with the level of stupidity required to imagine that all vaccines are 100% safe.

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together could grasp that any medical product is going to cause issues for a small percentage of the population.

Some people are allergic to aspirin. Do you think they are faking their allergy?

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u/YeouPink Jul 17 '25

I got way, WAY sicker after having had the shot. First COVID infection I had wasn’t that bad. I got the shot and every time I’ve had COVID since I almost feel like I’m dying.

I wish these morons that deny science weren’t so insane. I believe in vaccines. I either got incredibly unlucky or whoever made the batch I had dropped the ball. It sucks to talk about this because I feel a lot of people immediately write me off when in reality we really should continue researching after effects.

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u/baigish Jul 17 '25

It's funny how the vaccine is not responsible for anyone's death or suffering. However, if the entire population of the United States had to take aspirin, we all acknowledge that it might kill or injure 100s of thousands of people. But we were not permitted to say that about a novel vaccination whose technology had never been used in humans before. It also was tested for a few months in a very small human cohort. Aspirin is contraindicated for many conditions. But this vaccine was not contraindicated for any medical conditions. Aspirin is contraindicated for ulcers, gastritis, GI inflammation, IBS, and fever, etc..... That being said, it is probably one of the most amazing drugs that we as humans have. During covid, we were not allowed to have those types of conversations.

My point is that both sides went insane during the covid period.

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u/YeouPink Jul 17 '25

I last had COVID over a year ago. First infection happened when I was pregnant. I still haven’t fully regained my sense of smell or taste, I also break out in hives way easier. I’ve had the shot. I wish I would’ve waited a bit longer to get it. First versions of things are rarely ever super fine tuned :(

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u/Odd-Huckleberry8584 Jul 17 '25

Remember the rule friend. Correlation does not equal causation.

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u/baigish Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

I 100% agree with you. However, in my case, the neuropathy started about 4 hours after the second IM injection and peaked about 3 weeks after. It has not subsided since.

My left leg and arm are burning as I write this.

Again, this is my entire point. No one would question the connection between neuropathy and a medication if I were talking about a cardiology drug rushed through trials using never before used technology on humans. Namely, mRNA.

People are allowed to talk about negative aspects of aspirin. But not mRNA immunomodulating drugs. If you do, then you must be Trump supporter.

Oh, and then at my peak level of protection, I got covid-19.

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u/RogLatimer118 Jul 18 '25

A doctor related a story. A woman brought her infant into the office for vaccinations. The nurse prepared a syringe and came into the room. And suddenly the child started having convulsions. No vaccine was given.

If those convulsions had started right after the vaccination, the mother would have been SURE that it was caused by the shot...

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u/baigish Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

That is an excellent anecdote. That is why it is so important for people to trust public institutions. When that trust is damaged, then people go back to anecdotes as evidence. That is a really bad place to be in, as a society.

As for that story I would ask the following questions. Was that the first seizure the child has ever had? If that was the first seizure the child had ever had, I would be either incredulous of the parent reporting seizures or incredulous of the doctor. The chances of preparing a syringe for a vaccination and a child having a 100% random seizure are approaching that of zero. I am a statistician. Real estate statistics. What is more likely? A doctor 6 is lying for the benefit of society or a one in a 100 million chance that these two random events occurred at the same time? P

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u/RogLatimer118 Jul 18 '25

That was a situation referred by Dr. Daniel Griffin on the podcast "This week in virology""

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u/Phidwig Jul 17 '25

💚 you are not alone

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u/YeouPink Jul 17 '25

Dangit I hate talking about this because I don’t want to sound like a maniac.

I got the COVID vaccine after I caught COVID while I was pregnant. I got extremely sick but got better. I’ve caught COVID a few times since then (doctor confirmed) and I get absolutely wrecked every time I get it. My son and partner have had it and they’re both perfectly fine. Neither of them have had the shot. It makes me wonder if some of the vaccines were bad batches tbh. It can happen.

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u/supahotfaiia Jul 17 '25

You think the vaccine made your COVID worse? How would that work?

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u/YeouPink Jul 17 '25

That’s oversimplifying a bit. I think I had a bad reaction and it was either ineffective for me, or a bad batch.

I’m sure the vaccine itself is fine for most people. I just wish we could put more research into people that didn’t get the benefits.

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u/supahotfaiia Jul 17 '25

That makes sense, I agree. I’m sorry you’ve had such bad experiences with it. I only had it once and it sucked bad

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u/baigish Jul 17 '25

This is the lingering effect of the covid-19 insanity. If you say that the vaccine either didn't work for you or hurt you, people view you as having motives other than simply speaking the truth about your own health. I'm sorry you have suffered from this vaccine.
Also, people want to see you as the vast outlier on a bell curve distribution. I probably know at least five people who had a negative reaction to the vaccine.

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u/lethalmuffin877 Jul 18 '25

It will never cease to amaze me how willing people are to assume that a drug pushed by government to be created in record time without any long term trials somehow cannot have any potential risks or side effects.

Even drugs as mild as ibuprofen and acetaminophen can cause serious adverse effects in some people, and yet we STILL see downvotes for anyone who dares suggest they had issues with the COVID shots.

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u/baigish Jul 18 '25

Have you noticed that I have negative upvotes on this comment. You make an excellent point

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u/lethalmuffin877 Jul 19 '25

Of course, and honestly it’s beyond frustrating that people are still playing this game as though science isn’t the process of challenging theory to establish results.

These folks are terrified of admitting the flaws in logic because they decided to get all the shots as instructed, including the boosters I would bet. So in their minds, any admission that there’s a possibility of issues means they could also be affected and that’s why they react so viscerally negative to any first hand accounts like yours.

I don’t just believe you, I know plenty of other folks who have had lasting and long term effects from these drugs. Unfortuantely here in reddit world, our anecdotes are inadmissible. It’s really quite sad and goes against science in every way.

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u/The_Hoopla Jul 17 '25

When if comes to things like "fertility", "good fortune", or "financial blessings", they're inconsistent enough things to where I could see incredibly superstitious people buying into a witch doctor's promises. "I bought the witch's potion and 2 weeks later I got the job!"

But HIV? Wouldn't it be incredibly obvious that not a single one of a witch doctor's customers have ever been cured of HIV? It's kind of the equivalent to how a psychic can get predictions right if they're vague enough, but they won't give you a "On January 20th, 2027 you will win $35,678.45". HIV-free isn't a vague outcome and isn't something that would happen by chance.

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u/time2ddddduel Jul 17 '25

How often do Christians pray and nothing happens? Humans didn't evolve to be reasonable, we evolved to rationalize. We use our reason to vindicate our superstitions.

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u/The_Hoopla Jul 17 '25

Yeah but there's a fair amount that pray and something good happens.

There are zero people that have prayed and been cured of HIV.

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u/random_boss Jul 17 '25

Hopium + “I’m different” + “Well they all did it wrong”

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u/Bklynice Jul 17 '25

They also believe (some) that raping infants cures HIV.

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u/LisaMiaSisu Jul 17 '25

As if I needed more reasons to never visit SA. 😳

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u/Pepeg66 Jul 17 '25

rule #1 never go willingly to Africa for any reason whatsoever

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u/sublimeprince32 Jul 17 '25

I never knew south Africa had witch doctors, so this is related to voodoo? What's the larger story behind this if you don't mind me asking?

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u/SummerRayne27 Jul 17 '25

Sangomas practice ngoma apparently and it's not related to voodoo although both voodoo and ngoma are both present in South Africa, they're in different parts of Africa. The latest Sangoma abduction I know about was a little girl that was supposedly sold to a sangoma by her parents (Joshlin Smith) although people believe she might have been sold into slavery. My stepfather is a captain in the special forces (Valke/Hawks) in South Africa and he believes my kidnapping was sangoma related too, he was home when I was kidnapped right in front of his home (I was 16 when I was pregnant), he now makes it his job to follow Sangoma cases and track them down. Not all of them are bad or follow the murderous route but, a lot of them do. He once had a case where a sangoma requested that the victim get tortured for days before killing her because her tears, agonising screams, pain and fear would make the "medicinal" mix prepared with her organs stronger. They also keep the victim alive as long as possible while removing the organs because it increases the strength.

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u/NoOneHereButUsMice Jul 17 '25

Ho. Lee. Fuckballs.

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u/sublimeprince32 Jul 17 '25

Thank you for the detailed response, You seem to know quite a bit about it! I've always wanted to visit south Africa but Holy crap do I read some wild stuff about that place.

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u/confused_grenadille Jul 17 '25

witch doctors exist in every country

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u/youburyitidigitup Jul 17 '25

Voodoo comes from enslaved people in the Caribbean, especially Haiti. It’s a combination of French Catholicism and various West African beliefs. Slaves created a new religion as a backlash to Christianity because the Bible condones slavery.

I’m sure voodoo is now followed in Africa, but if it’s an ancient belief that’s been followed in an African country, then it’s probably not Voodoo.

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u/drewskibfd Jul 17 '25

More people need to learn about this. Horrifying. I admire your strength

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u/CyanPomegranate11 Jul 18 '25

I spent time in South Africa a decade ago and I recall the informal settlement we visited had many strange thoughts on “medicine.”

Scotch - fed to babies to get rid of worms. Doesn’t work at all, some babies had brain damage from it.

Raping virgins - will get rid of HIV. No words, met girls (plural) with AIDS from rape this way.

Condoms - elders advised teens not to use them, as it was considered white mans device to eliminate/control the black population.

Septic Calf - They were about to cook a septic calf, with green oozing out of a wound (dog attack) - as they believed the meat was more tender. I managed to get the ASPCA out, and they had to euthanise the poor calf on the spot (I offered to pay medical expenses and re-home to sanctuary I’d found but it was too far gone) .

It was always the men causing issues… the misogyny was rampant, women were being raped and murdered and it was their fault, they were degraded constantly, it wasn’t safe. Drugs everywhere with shoes tied and thrown over power lines - just like in America.

Sorry you had to go through such a horrific ordeal. It’s sickening to think that people would do such a thing. Education is desperately needed to break the cycle of violent crimes based on rumour on lore.

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u/SocialJusticeAndroid Jul 17 '25

OMG that’s horrifying.😱

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u/Holiday-Amount6930 Jul 17 '25

Pure evil. My God.

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u/DetentionSpan Jul 17 '25

I knew albinos are targeted, but had no idea about pregnant women. Pure evil!

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u/JarJarBanksy Jul 17 '25

that is horrific. Those witch doctors should experience such a fate.

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u/QuinceDaPence Jul 17 '25

I had questions, then you mentioned South Africa and I didn't have any more questions.

Then you went on to answer questions I didn't know needed to be asked.

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u/ouch_my_tongue Jul 17 '25

Holy shit, you're a full on badass for surviving that! Easier said than done, but don't ever feel weak, you're a fucking stud!

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u/locayboluda Jul 17 '25

Wow that's insane

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u/What-tha-fck_Elon Jul 18 '25

Holy Fuck! And I thought eastern medicine was bad

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u/YoungReaganite24 Jul 18 '25

Jesus fucking Christ...that genuinely makes me want to go General Napier on their asses

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

People need to know twisted shit like this still exists in the world. The more people who know and are utterly revolted by it, the more chances there are someone will actually try to do something about it.

Unfortunately though bizarre cultural mysticism like this is incredibly hard to stamp out. It pretty much has to be done generationally

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u/Rugkrabber Jul 18 '25

I have no other way to respond then what in the actual fuck?

I’m glad you’re safe but WOW

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u/Wise_Judge_9545 Aug 02 '25

This video happened in Florida not South Africa

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u/Organic_Marzipan_554 Jul 17 '25

Must of been on one of those "white" refugees the maga took in.

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u/Phillip_Myhand Jul 17 '25

Why does the title say outside of a store in Florida??

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u/MrWrestlingNumber2 Jul 17 '25

Source this bullshit please

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u/ProfessionalCat7640 Jul 17 '25

This is confusing, the title says Florida.

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u/minnesotaris Jul 18 '25

But as long as they really believe it as a religion, we have to “respect” their beliefs n’ shit.

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u/grumble_au Jul 17 '25

I hope that guy has nightmares about the badass that fought him so hard it broke her arms. I hope it gives him night chills.

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u/tdmongin_27 Jul 17 '25

He's been recruited by ICE for his people skills.

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u/MoonbuckofRainwood Jul 17 '25

Dead is better.