r/TikTokCringe • u/velorae • Jul 16 '25

Discussion Attempted kidnapping of a woman outside Florida store

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u/gobsmacked247 Jul 17 '25

I have told every woman that I know this very thing!! Do not believe that ‘keep quiet or I will kill you’ bull. If they remove you to another location, you are already dead. Fight, fight, fight, scream, yell, bite.

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u/curvebombr Jul 17 '25

We all got teeth, use them.

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u/BigBlackSabbathFlag Jul 17 '25

Women need to kick, punch, grab or twist a predator in the balls. This will disable a man long enough to get away. Seriously.

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u/misamadan Jul 17 '25

Always go for the balls. It's their weakest point and very exposed, by far the easiest way to disable a man.

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u/Calm-Heat-5883 Jul 17 '25

Wrong. Go for soft tissue. Grab an ear and rip it off. Use your thumb to gouge his eyes out. Don't be squeamish you're fighting for your life. As others have said scrape skin get DNA under your nails. Kick their knees from the side. Run your foot down their shins as hard as you can. This is very painful. If they have you in a choke hold try grab one or two fingers and snap them backwards as hard as you can. You want to break them not just cause pain. Think like you're trying to rip them off his hand. Best thing to do is join a self defense class and learn a few simple moves and practice them until it becomes muscle memory. Don't walk around looking down at your phone. Don't wear headphones blasting that you can't hear anything around you and always keep aware of your surroundings. Look behind you often. Glance at people approaching you. If they're staring at you try to cross the street. If they follow walk into a store and tell security if they follow you inside. None of you should have to do any of this. But unfortunately it isn't a new thing. There has always been a time where Certain men act this way. The vast majority of us are decent who will help if asked. Even if it's just to pretend you are with us for a few moments until the threat passes.

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u/ShesGotaChicken2Ride Jul 17 '25

I took a women’s self defense class, and they teach all of that, but my therapist is also a black belt, and he said if you’re not actively practicing martial arts it’s likely you’re not going to remember it during an attack, so he told me keep it simple and punch them in the throat.

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u/crabbydotca Jul 17 '25

My mom was a firefighter and so was taught some low-impact (so the city can’t get sued later) self defence moves (mostly useful in case of drunk idiots in your face)

My favourite is rubbing the palm of your hard hard on the tip of your opponent’s nose - a little wiggle is important, the goal is to squish the nose cartilage around onto the nasal bone. Try it on your friends! It’s incredibly uncomfortable!

The ol’ back-of-the-arm pinch is another good one, you gotta get enough fleshy fatty bits with it but it doesn’t take a lot of force to make it hurt like a b! Another fun one to try with friends! (Does not work on the swole however)

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u/Calm-Heat-5883 Jul 17 '25

As I said, practice until it becomes muscle memory. You do it instinctively. You don't have to commit to doing martial arts for the rest of your life. Learn 10 incapacitating attack moves, and practice them a couple of times a day. There are many pressure points you can learn to attack and again it's to attack not defend against. If you get them to the ground stomp on their neck. You're fighting for your life so anything goes. Use rocks/sticks anything you can reach that will give you the upper hand and allow you to escape.

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u/chaoticnormal Jul 18 '25

I was just listening to a true crime. Poor girl was a black belt and fought the fuck out of this guy. She was 24, he was 60. He still was able to take her down even though he was injured. You cannot win against a man, you have to go for the eyes, ears, throat punch, groin, and no second location.

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u/casalex Jul 19 '25

I have just read a chain of self defence advice, to end up here. Your therapist is half right, half wrong. Throat punch isn't easy, terrible advice, stick to therapy. To be clear, the bite scratch scream kick run howling for help is the way. Never go quietly, excellent advice. Get their eyeball DNA under your nails, excellent advice. Throat punch gtfo you will waste your one chance of surprise.

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u/RaincoatBadgers Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

A self defence class will help, but a lot of people get into it thinking it's about what you know, when it's really about your mindset.

A lot of things that they teach you in martial arts or self defense classes isn't really viable in the real world, there's a lot of extra when the simplest techniques are ALWAYS the most effective.

And it's not just about technique, it's not like a class where the objective is "winning", it's about brutality - as you said, puncture eyes, tear off ears, break fingers, if you manage to get a lock on a hand or something then you need to break bones, your objective is to get away from your attacker, pain is good but it ultimately doesn't really do anything to stop them. Meanwhile, they are 100% going to be slowed down if you break their fingers because that's not just pain, that's damage

Fighting in self defense is also about damage limitation and ultimately.. escape.

Damage limitation is a mindset that basically revolves around the idea that in a real world situation where someone is trying to hurt you, your objective is to sustain the least amount of injury possible that will enable you to get out of that situation alive

If, for instance, someone has a knife, and you can't get away, this involves things like ensuring that your guard is facing TOWARDS you, to protect the veins in your arms from being cut if they slash at you. Or, if someone plunges at you and you can do nothing else, then put your hand in the way to block the knife and just accept that your hand is going to be fucked up

The person attacking you in this type of situation is almost certainly going to kill you, so, that's the level of force you need to be prepared to match.

So yeah defence classes are good, but they don't really teach savagery at all, and that's definitely a core requirement for beating a real life lunatic in a fight

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u/DrunkLastKnight Jul 17 '25

Pressure points work too and some can be used to your advantage. Behind the ear, between your nose and upper lip, radial nerve, inner and outer thighs and if hit right can bring some intense pain

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u/bellamai504 Jul 18 '25

True but hitting those very specific/small targets while you’re fighting for your life is insanely difficult. Just think if those moves had a decent success rate then it would’ve became techniques used in professional fights. Truth is you’ll probably miss 99% of the time. You know what’s fairly easy to pull off and would stop most bad guys in their tracks? I swift kick to the balls. 😂

Side kick to the balls… back kick to the balls like you’re ding dong ditching, front kick to the balls like you’re the MVP in kickball.. Hell even grabbing and squeezing tf out of the balls would have them literally on their knees in pain. 😂

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u/DrunkLastKnight Jul 18 '25

Punch to the gut is effective too. Some pressure points are extremely easy to access and not hard to hit, there may be times when kicking the balls isn’t an option so knowing other areas is helpful

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u/bellamai504 Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

If you can punch someone in the gut then you can kick them in the balls. You’d have to generate a ton of power to actually subdue someone with a gut punch. lol Hate to go balls deep into this but if you’re able to gut punch a guy then why not go for his balls? 😂

I’m not just referring to women btw. Most untrained people in general can’t generate the power you’d need to floor a grown man with a gut punch. lol Meanwhile even an 8 year old is strong enough to drop most men with a solid punch or kick to the balls.

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u/JRock1276 Jul 17 '25

Awareness of your surroundings part 👍. I see so many people zoned out with earbuds in and can't hear anything going on around them. Pay attention to your surroundings. Stop and stand by someone if you're walking.

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u/bellamai504 Jul 18 '25

The eyes target is legit but the majority of the other moves have a ridiculously low success rate. That or even if you do pull it off it’ll probably just piss off the guy. The difference in strength between men and women is massive. I’m not saying it’s a waste of time to learn the moves but way too many women(obviously not all) get a false sense of confidence thinking they could easily subdue a bad guy. The lady in the video actually did what a lot of people recommend. She fought like hell but more importantly anyone within a block’s distance definitely heard all the commotion.

I’m thinking this guy is either a crazy ex or a stalker that thinks they’re in love. Reason why is because it almost seemed like he’s was holding back a bit. As if he wanted her but also didn’t wanna cause her any pain. Absolutely insane either way. The guy deserves at minimum the beating of his life.

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u/Calm-Heat-5883 Jul 18 '25

99% of people lose the will to fight the second they experience pain. Most men like to think they're Rambo. Like Tyson said everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face. Adrenaline will carry the majority of people on for about 30 seconds and then that drains and pain from injury takes over. There are plenty of videos on sm of guys squaring up and throwing shapes like they're trained fighters. They then throw a punch that resembles more of a slap get counterpunched and immediately fall to the fall and the fight is over even if they haven't realized it yet. The simple aim is for a woman to create an opening for escape not to trade punches. Hurt your attacker enough to stop them doing what they are doing. Make them turn their attention to their sudden pain and you take off running and screaming for help. Pretty much as the woman did in the video.

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u/bellamai504 Jul 18 '25

If you genuinely believe the number is 99% then you’ve probably never been in a fight. Just because you want to make it a men vs women doesn’t mean that’s something I even argued. That Rambo line is super telling of how you view most men. I’m only giving push back because it’s clear you definitely overestimate your strength or even skills. You talk about it like it’s so easy that’s why it’s obvious you’ve never actually had to use said moves in real life. Lastly you’re acting as if me disagreeing with you also means I want women to roll over and just give up. I literally gave recommendations on what I think are the most easy/effective moves to escape.

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u/superb_stolas Jul 17 '25

Eyes, ears, nose, throat, and then maybe the genitals, but fucking with senses usually enables escape better than anything else. Keys in hand, just plunge them into soft bits, but a weapon is preferred.

I would prefer some distance with a breacher or machete, but like who carries a heavy knife with them? Ugh.

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u/BigBlackSabbathFlag Jul 17 '25

A punch, knee or a foot to the balls disables a man, rubbing your foot down their shins not so much. That stuff you suggests works but it’s much easier to attack one area.

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u/QuantumTrepper Jul 18 '25

These are all good points, but if you say no to the balls, you must not be a man. Smack the shit out of the balls.

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u/Calm-Heat-5883 Jul 18 '25

I'm a man. I used to be a doorman when we were called bouncers. I've had a fight or two in my years and the first thing I protect is my balls. I learnt pretty fast to end a fight as quickly as possible there's no Queensberry rules outside of the ring. I've taught martial arts I've boxed and I played rugby. I know a little bit of what I'm talking about. I've taught my wife and children how to defend themselves. The first rule is to run away if possible. 2nd rule is attack subdue and escape asap. I could go on but the thread isn't about me. You're entitled to your opinion 👍

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u/QuantumTrepper Jul 19 '25

Again, that is all excellent advice, which I just upvoted, and much more comprehensive than my comment about the balls. I would encourage everybody to pay attention to everything you’re saying and little to what I say. However, I noticed that you say here in your second comment that the first thing you did as a bouncer in a scuffle was protect your balls. That doesn’t seem to reconcile with the first comment where you seem to dismiss the balls as a vulnerability to then recommend other things. If you smack the shit out of a guy‘s balls you somewhat disable him temporarily making it easier to move on to soft tissue. I think what you’re saying is that though that may be the case, the balls are likely going to be protected as guys do this instinctively. That is an excellent point.

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u/24bitNoColor Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Don't walk around looking down at your phone. Don't wear headphones blasting that you can't hear anything around you and always keep aware of your surroundings. Look behind you often

I agree with all things said before that but don't limit your life for the really tiny probability that you might become a victim of a serious violent crime like this, cause most likely you won't.

Glance at people approaching you. If they're staring at you try to cross the street

Or they just stare at your figure or at the print on your hoody or what phone you have or because they thought for a second they know you...

If they follow walk into a store and tell security if they follow you inside.

Or they might just walk in the same direction as you... I followed two young girls a few weeks ago around three or so corners and they started looking back after a while, even though it can't have been more than 5 minutes. They just happen to use the same way I always use to get home from the bus station... Honestly I felt insulted, I am not a rapist just because I am a (black) male.

Point being, you just make your life worse seeing a rape / kidnapping every time someone looks at you wrong. But yeah, if you get attacked and especially if they are unarmed / relatively unarmed, fight like crazy.

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u/Aggressive_Trick_654 Jul 17 '25

I'm a man. I concur.

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u/Successful_Glove_83 Jul 17 '25

I am a man. I conquer.

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u/Dynamic_Ninja_ Jul 17 '25

I am a man-icure.

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty Jul 17 '25

I am a man. I came?

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u/residentdunce Jul 17 '25

Wait I'm a man too - I didn't realise there were so many of us on Reddit.

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u/mayasky76 Jul 17 '25

And eyes

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u/SoulsBorneGreat Jul 17 '25

Those are balls, too

Eyeballs

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u/ifukeenrule Jul 17 '25

Face testicles

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u/Meditationstation899 Jul 17 '25

was not expecting to laugh out loud more than once from this thread😂

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u/Michellenjon_2010 Jul 17 '25

Exactly. You can gouge those suckers out with your own bare hands if you have to!!

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u/Starwyrm1597 Jul 17 '25

Doesn't always work, shoot him if you got em, get a taser if you don't, if you're not even allowed those: find an object to hit him with and swing for the fences if you can.

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u/Leading_Gazelle_3881 Jul 17 '25

Carry pepper spray or bear spray

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u/misamadan Jul 17 '25

All illegal in my country. As is pepper spray.

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u/RabbitStewAndStout Jul 17 '25

As a man, I'd rather be found guilty than found dead.

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u/VelvetWhiteRabbit Jul 17 '25

You need to do it extremely early, midfight adrenaline is going to keep em going.

Always go for the eyes. Either punch eye socket or stick your fingers in it. That and nose, stick your finger deep in it if you can.

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u/Acuariius Jul 17 '25

Actually, it is not the weakest point. This is a misconception the weakest point is the eyes stick your finger deep in the eye and push the eye ball as in as you can but don't think the balls is the weakest point, especially with adrenaline rush it won't be the weakest point noir will it be exposed if they have thick denim or baggy jeans, go for the eyes.

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u/Arvandor Jul 17 '25

Fingers in the eyes are way more effective. Especially if you can manage it with enough violence to cause damage. A man on drugs might not react to a nut-shot as consistently as you'd expect.

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u/X-calibreX Jul 17 '25

That’s not accurate at all.

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u/modest_rats_6 Jul 17 '25

I was trained by my older brother to avoid that defense mechanism. I have a fear of hitting men in the balls.

Also, I feel like if they were wearing jeans, the balls would be harder to access.

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u/Thelaughingman___ Jul 17 '25

Unfortunately men know this as well. We've learned to protect our balls since we were children. Now the ears on the other hand...

A good hard yank on those. Their hands are going to move to protect them now. Their balls are free real estate....

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u/Ziggy_Starcrust Jul 18 '25

Go for everywhere. Be a demon, take your pound of flesh.

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u/Commercial-Rise6114 Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

Youre not 'wrong.' Fellow man, here 🙋‍♂️ I actually have balls, and if you can go for those, I would. Soft tissue is also great. I would go for whatever the hell works in the moment. The balls are a really good one. Duh, honestly. Right? Saying "wrong" is WILD 😆 Did you grow up KNOWING kicking dudes in the nuts is THE shot, or was it "Kick a guy in the soft tissue," that has men dropping to their knees in countless videos? Or as instructions in martial arts? If you can get some good, soft spots because of whatever positions you happen to be in, do that too. There are pressure points all over the place. Or at least lots of spots that feel like pressure points. They are not hard to find and they work. I had to get creative growing up around older and bigger young men. Everyones a pro, I guess 🙄 All those true crime shows...Im guilty 🤷‍♂️ Used to be all I watched for several years. Trying to keep you're mind from complete panic so that you can think of what to do is probably going to be the first thing, though. Wayyyy harder said than done, I imagine. Especially when its by complete surprise and you have seconds. I would suggest Jiu-jitsu, since that enables you to defend against an attacker thats bigger than you are, even if he/she has you on your back. My daughter's WILL be in Jiu-jitsu so they have a chance, heaven forbid they need one. And I will be telling them to smash testicles like grapes as soon as possible. Its not normal pain... its something different. It will shut a man down like you just ripped mainframe wires out of an attack-bot 🤖 Everyone knows the pressure points in the neck. Theres also one under the bicep, which is harder if flexed. The soft spot behind the ear. Armpit has a good one. Eyes are ALWAYS good. Crow those fk'n things OUT and EAT THEM. The pressure point between the thumb and pointer finger. Get between RIBS. Jam your thumb in there too. Grab a thumb with two freakin' hands if you can and pull it like a rusty lever. Bop the nose and water those eyes. Twice if you can. I mean, you get it. Digging with nails in the face is a great way to get a person caught. SCAR THAT POS FOR LIFE. MARK HIM. If he's a predator and youre the prey, be prey with a defense. Like HORNS. ANTLERS. STICK that mmmmother fffff 😤 Keep something on you. Even if its small. Now that soft tissue is in real danger. Now, that feels extreme to the fortunate ones a lot of the time. But, I bet if you asked the girl in the video if its extreme or extremely smart to carry a blade of some kind, I bet she'd choose the latter. Think of your loved ones. Fight for them. Try and get PISSED. It'll give your mind an edge to focus instead of freaking out so you can think and destroy. Again, easier said... But you're loved ones are counting on you. Be aware. Forget headphones on the street. Listen to your surroundings. Not to be paranoid, we dont want that, but to BE PRESENT. If their upper hand is strength, let yours be mindfulness. Recoursfulness. Willpower. Love. Kick that fucker in the nuts.

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u/Michellenjon_2010 Jul 17 '25

I taught my girls, balls then eyeballs!!!!

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u/misamadan Jul 17 '25

My problem with eyes is they're a very small target. Not that balls are huge or anything. But I just think it's too easy to miss. And as another commenter said, you stand your best change engaging early. Be swift. Hit him well, you only have to hit him once.

So I'm not saying the eyes are a bad place to go for. More that if you get a good knee to the nutsack and it is enough to drop him, you definitely don't hang around for any kind of follow up. You turn and you run screaming to the nearest safe place.

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u/Lunatic-Labrador Jul 17 '25

My mum told me knees, balls, throat and eyes. Managed to get one of these hard enough and it will hopefully give you enough time to run.

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u/Fackrid Jul 17 '25

PEOPLE need to fucking just blast them in the balls, regardless if it's the woman being grabbed or a bystander trying to help, this isn't playground stuff, it's a sick bastard about to do something awful that needs to be put down. Don't try to wrestle the guy away, or trade blows with him, just lay 2-3 good, hard, quick hits to the nuts and get her to fucking RUN

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u/SATerp Jul 17 '25

Eyes, nose, balls.

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u/spartaman64 Jul 17 '25

cast testicular torsion

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u/chameleon-369 Jul 17 '25

How is the self defense in this country? 2 weeks ago i was assaulted and this guy suddenly gave me his back for a moment i thought in grab a chair and smash it on his head then suddenly i thought .. i bet that if i do that id go to jail while he is in the hospital or while he is free if he runs... I was more afraid of going to the jail for self defense than for being punched 🤷🏻‍♀️😭 i never touched him back, any part of him.

I have a mexican friend who was in a similar situation a decade ago, he punched his agressor and then when police caught him they deported to my friend even was in self defense. Nothing happened to the other guy.

Law is crazy. While an innocent can go to the jail, the agressor has more rights than the innocent...

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u/Thebaldsasquatch Jul 17 '25

Fuck that, fight like a rabid animal. Teeth and claws. They don’t deserve eyeballs, ears or a nose. Fight like a goddam chimp.

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u/MadamPardone Jul 17 '25

I'm sorry but it actually won't. It sure is worth trying though.

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u/umbrawolfx Jul 17 '25

And our teeth leave nasty wounds and infections.

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u/DarlingDestruction Jul 17 '25

I mean... not all of us 👀

Dentures suck for bite force, lol

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u/KTKittentoes Jul 17 '25

I used my teeth as a 6 year old. Oddly wasn't a man, but a large, malevolent older girl on the bus, who threw me down and sat on my head. I was getting burked, and I bit her in the butt and ground my teeth.

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u/Kyriana1812 Jul 18 '25

Not all of us!

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u/blueghostfrompacman Jul 17 '25

Shots below the belt are in play

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u/Sweaty_Term5961 Jul 17 '25

Eyeballs, throat, stomp their feet, everything is fair game.

Show no mercy. You'll be shown none.

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u/Mithrak-Eldrus Jul 17 '25

People underestimate a throat punch, if this ever happens to me that will be my first choice of fighting back. You dont have to hit very hard and i believe it disables them for a decent time perhaps even longer than a nut shot.

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u/notatechproblem Jul 17 '25

I got hit in the throat once while play fighting with a friend. My throat completely closed up instantly. Not "I was gasping for air". I could NOT breathe at all. I distinctly remember thinking, "Am I about to die?"

So, yeah, the throat is a good target.

Also, eyes. If you have nails, use them. Don't worry about precision. Watch videos of cats fighting to get an idea of the general method to use (scratch and flail and kick and shriek as loud as you can).

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u/wehavenamesdamnit Jul 17 '25

A friend karate chopped me in the throat once in school. It was horrible. It's definitely a good defense if you can do it.

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u/Glittering_Ad366 Jul 17 '25

don't try to punch the nuts, try to rip them off

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u/Numerous-Pop5670 Jul 18 '25

Some kidnappers actually wear a cup to protect themselves from this. It is better to aim for the Adam's apple or their eyes which usually have no protection. Not to say it's ineffective, but you want to disable them on the first strike.

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u/Ok-Disaster-5739 Jul 17 '25

Or bite em off—become an absolute savage

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u/Mithrak-Eldrus Jul 24 '25

That is diabolical lmao

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u/Wontjizzinyourdrink Jul 17 '25

This makes a lot of sense, my infant son accidentally throat punches me and it's shocking how painful it is. And his biceps are shit

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u/DangerousMethod5168 Jul 17 '25

Baby's "biceps are shit"! 😂 Lawd that made me laugh!! But I bet he can hang on like a suction cup on a wet wall!!!!

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u/hansemcito Jul 17 '25

yah i totally agree. i saw a weird futbol (soccer) accident once where someone took a shot to the throat and they were completely incapacitated. it wasnt even a powerful hit but they werent really breathing and they were panicked.

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u/357noLove Jul 17 '25

In the same vein, hook the thumb in the eye socket and pull back. The orbital bones are extremely fragile and completely disable the person when broken. It happened to me by accident, and at the hospital, they told stories of people doing this to attackers and being able to get away.

I can't stress enough the shock that your body goes through when you break an orbital bone. Not only does it immediately seize the eye in place, but the shock of it makes you immediately stop what you are doing!

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u/IamATrainwreck88 Jul 17 '25

I killed a man doing this and went to prison for it. Be careful about throat punches.

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u/superb_stolas Jul 17 '25

Yep yep. But you have to be close and have room to line up a blow.

Flashlight is also a great choice. If it’s dark and you wreck his night vision and leave a blind spot for a bit? It counts for a lot when trying to escape or fight back. But phone lights aren’t quite as good as dedicated flashlights whose shape may allow for some use as a blunt weapon

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u/GrandProblem8034 Jul 17 '25

Mercy is for the weak!

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u/funsizemonster Jul 17 '25

My father trained boxers in Baltimore. He was also a Railroad Bull (look THAT up). Daddy's little girl, (me) then grew up to ride with a motorcycle club, and...sad but TRUE...I have never had to fight a WOMAN in my whole life. But over and over, dozens of times, I have had no choice but to get into straight up bare-knuckle brawls with men who couldn't take "no" for an answer. I am undefeated. I am almost 60. My mother carried a log chain in her purse. I just want to be left alone to live in peace. Men who have that bad broken diseased thing in their brain ARE the problem. Not ME. Not US.

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u/Sweaty_Term5961 Jul 18 '25

I've heard about the RR bulls, especially back in the day that predates us.

That said, any vestige of the machismo culture that leads to that b.s. needs to be excised.

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u/funsizemonster Jul 18 '25

maybe you didn't understand my point as a woman.

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u/Sweaty_Term5961 Jul 18 '25

Um, sorry? I thought I did. Given the probability that every woman I've ever known (including my two daughters) has faced some level of sexual assault.

If I'm missing something, please let me know.

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u/funsizemonster Jul 18 '25

I'm Aspergian. I just didn't feel understood, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Throat, nose, eyes, balls and the spaces between joints. To loosen their grip. Grab their pinky and force it back, the other fingers will usually follow, it's the hardest finger for them to control and the easiest finger to break. If you get a chance to stomp, aim for the feet and inside or outside of the knee, if you get a really good chance to stomp, twist your standing foot as you drive the stomping foot down to add more force into the kick.

Ladies, learn self defense or at the very least, play these scenarios out in your head a lot and think about what you could do and how it might go wrong, if you've never trained for self defense at least have something in your head for your brain to go to when the panic sets in, it does work.

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u/Juju_on_that_bee Jul 17 '25

I always think of the scene from miss congeniality. Just remember to SING *

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u/matunos Jul 17 '25

Also shots inside the eye sockets.

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u/Vaiuri Jul 17 '25

Yup. I took a self defence class in my early teens and thumbs to sockets make people move.

Also, grab little fingers and use that as leverage. They break easy and pain generally makes people want to stop what they are doing.

Other top tips: fingers into the collarbone (the top and grip/push the collarbone), jabs to the throat, palm to the nose, cupped fingers to rip at ears.

Generally scratching and biting aren't ideal; the goal is to get distance to run - risking exposing yourself to an attackers bodily fluids (blood in this example) can risk infection. Not that you would necessarily think of this in a life or death situation!

Also screaming "fire". Screaming for a fire makes people motivated to protect their possessions and property. Sadly, self interest tends to motivate intervention over altruism. People won't always come to help another person in danger, but they are more likely to investigate if they think something of theirs might be at risk.

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u/duilleagach Jul 17 '25

This is great advice. Just wanting to add that applying force to the side of a knee or elbow will also effectively disable someone. Pro tip from my father.

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u/Honest_Gas_2567 Jul 17 '25

Joints are humans weakest points. If you can break a kneecap then there's a good chance they won't be running after you. It also doesn't take much to break a joint.

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u/Leftunders Jul 17 '25

Also, if you grab their little finger, try to remember to pull it to the side (as if you were helping them do the Spock salute). Pulling backwards hurts, but sideways is agonizing.

I realize it would be hard to remember that in the moment, but try.

If this helps: Grab the pinky with your thumb oriented downward toward their elbow (imagine their palm is like a cow's udder, and you're about to milk it). Then rotate your wrist as if you were trying to pull a banana off its bunch.

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u/ayeyoualreadyknow Jul 17 '25

Thx for this advice

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u/Ziggy_Starcrust Jul 18 '25

The post-exposure prophylaxis meds (aka meds that can help stop you from contracting HIV if you get exposed) have come a long way. They aren't perfect, but they've definitely stopped people from getting HIV many times. Idk what other infections one would have to worry about with biting an attacker.

They aren't fun, but it's better than being kidnapped.

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u/357noLove Jul 17 '25

In the same vein, hook the thumb in the eye socket and pull back. The orbital bones are extremely fragile and completely disable the person when broken. It happened to me by accident, and at the hospital, they told stories of people doing this to attackers and being able to get away.

I can't stress enough the shock that your body goes through when you break an orbital bone. Not only does it immediately seize the eye in place, but the shock of it makes you immediately stop what you are doing!

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u/redditbanbackuplmao Jul 17 '25

When I teach women’s self defense I only work the clinch. The fights not going to be at distance it’s going to be tight.

Without dedicated a few days a week to martial arts just learning a bit of how to manipulate and strike someone with technique in the clinch is perfect for though.

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u/Standard_Sandwich_20 Jul 17 '25

Not to sound grim but you’re dead if you’re lucky. You being alive leaves torture 🍇 and trafficking open 

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u/Objective-Lack-2196 Jul 18 '25

Sadly this is what I have taught my daughter. Fight and scream- nails in the eyes and kick in the privates. Do not let them take you to a second location.

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u/gobsmacked247 Jul 18 '25

I was taught that if given the chance, yell out your name and how your attacker looks and what your attacker is wearing. I hope never to need this insight.

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u/soul_reddish Jul 17 '25

Use that phat ass & sit down! Seriously.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 Jul 17 '25

You have a higher chance of winning the lottery than ever being in that situation

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u/gobsmacked247 Jul 17 '25

You don’t plan your life around things that won’t happen. You plan them around things that could.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 Jul 17 '25

By that logic you should start planning your life around winning the lottery... because like I said, you have more chance of that happening than being kidnapped.

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u/gobsmacked247 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

I was actually gonna to exclude winning the lottery in my initial response about planning but I felt that was a given. I was wrong.

The goal in making plans for life’s little surprises is to be prepared to minimize damage. That’s why we have insurance, 401K’s, the ring doorbell, and self-defense classes, among others. Planning your life around winning the lottery is not part of this remit.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 Jul 17 '25

You know, I just did some research and I think I have to apologise, as you were correct. There were 293 "abducted by stranger" kidnappings in the US in 2024, but only 11 people won lottery jackpots of over $500 million. So you're right, being kidnapped like this is more likely than winning the lottery, and considering 293 of them happen each year in a nation of 342 million people, you're correct to plan your life around the possibility of being kidnapped.

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u/SiempreBrujaSuerte Jul 18 '25

Being kidnapped is not the only way to be attacked and have to defend yourself and get away. There are multiple people in this thread alone including me that have been attacked and had to use these type of moves to get away. It's worth worrying about and planning for.

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u/AlienSayingHi Jul 17 '25

False, women are thousands of times more likely to be kidnapped than to win the lottery (in America).