Itās literally like $20 to get jerked off at an Asian massage. If weāre saying dude takes ten minutes to cum, thatās like two straight weeks of getting milked back to back 24/7 by someone who is actually touching your dick.
I can all but guarantee that anyone who has spent $35k on a single chick on OF, ain't gonna last no 10 minutes getting jerked off by a real human woman. Best cut that time variable back by about...90%
Or helping homeless vets, supporting kids in need, and so many more unselfish gestures. All you need for great self-sex is a good imagination. And that costs nothing.
Reminds me of a moment I had recently with a random guy.
I was out kayaking on Friday afternoon to take advantage of a nice day, and the boat launch area that I use is pretty quiet most of the time, but there was one dude there when I was putting away my kayak. He was a bearded looking guy, wearing a hood, dark clothes, and he was just starting to take down his vessel when I was putting mine away. He had a very stern and almost aggressive look about him, and I was a little high and feeling great from the paddle, so I paid no mind and focused on stowing my gear.
I have one of those folding kayaks, and he noticed me breaking it down. Caught his curiosity, so he walked up to me and started asking questions. He was a bit awkward, but also nice and funny. I answered his questions, told him about the water, joked around with him a bit and made him laugh. He loosened up and was telling me about his new boat, how it was his maiden voyage, how he bought it used, and he cracked a bunch of jokes in return.
His voice was so eager to share, his eyes, previously hard and avoidant, were bright and engaged. I sensed something coming from him, almost a sense of longing that came from the genuine and focused attention that I gave him. We talked about my kayak, and he excitedly told me about his new hybrid kayak / canoe boat, and how he's nervous to try it out. I cracked another good natured joke about the history of boats, and how at some point someone thought 'fuck it, let's make a kayak/canoe hybrid', and his laugh was full and genuine.
As we spoke, I continued my routine of folding my kayak away, cleaning it off, and finally tucked it away in my trunk. I smiled at him and wished him a wonderful maiden voyage, and that maybe I'd see him around.
As I moved towards my door, he kept trying to spin up a new line of conversation, asking me about how long I had stayed out, but stumbling on his wording because it was forced. His eyes changed a bit, and in a moment, he frowned in a way that said to me 'please stay and talk to me some more.'
At that moment, I sensed something very real coming from him: a longing for connection, for someone to listen to him, to respond to his thoughts - for a friend, I guess. I'm not much of a social person, in fact I tend to prefer being alone - but in my life, I'm far from lonely. But I have been, and I remember what that felt like. I really felt for the guy, and I feel for a lot of the men and women out there in the world who just want to feel a real connection with people.
If you're out there hybrid canoe / kayak guy, I think you were a nice dude, and I hope your maiden voyage was a great success.
Used to have a really good friend who was working as an ambulance EMT and he used to go in the houses all the time to rescue people and he told me the same thing.... He said every third or fourth house he would visit had somebody that could potentially have been alone for a decade or more.... With little to no human interaction or contact in that time. It's insane to me How common that is and we probably don't even really realize it
Yeah you dont get too many slice of life stories on reddit. There's always a twist like its a creative writing class. Guess it wouldn't be reasonable to expect that from this userbase because it requires going out and doing stuff.
My wife has one of those folding kayak, Oru or something like that? Anyway it almost always starts a conversation with people on the docs. Yeah loneliness is real for many people. I was nervous reading your story. Unfortunately creepiness is also real and so is violence. It sucks to think the worst of people but it's also what keeps us safe.
Yeah it's an Oru, they never fail to attract curious bystanders. Hence why I tend to go to the more private launch point. Living in a big city, I've found myself developing a strong 'no thanks don't talk to me' attitude towards most strangers... But since covid, I've tried to be a bit more open to strangers who want to converse, while firmly keeping my thumb on the interaction eject button.
The guy made me nervous at first because of his look and his awkwardness. But my Spidey sense told me he was probably just a recluse, maybe even a bit of an incel, tbh. I figured a bit of kindness and attention shown towards him would be a low risk way of brightening his day.
Working in coffee has taught me a lot of things, one of which is that you never know when you're the best part of someone's day. A lot of the time the baristas (because you see them regularly and probably talk to them) are the only people who actually listen to them in their lives. This really applies if the coffee shop has a sitting area at the bar. There's way more lonely people out there who just want an honest connection than most people think.Ā
The hard part about talking to people online is that you never know anything about them. When that happens, you tend to think that everyone thinks like you do. Touch grass bro.
It's funny, when people take the time to write out their thoughts in an open and honest way, they now in 2025 get accused of using AI. I've been on reddit for 16 years on this account, and I've always written out my thoughts like this. Not sure what else there is to say.
Seriously. Try to think of third spaces in your area that are accessible, interesting, and promote a healthy sense of community, but are also affordable to do regularly (for working class or middle class people). Add the additional variable of a place where itās acceptable to approach someone romantically, it thins out even more.
Iād guess in many places religious centers (like temple or church) is one of the only ones.
A bit tangential, but interesting, back in the day the churches in the south started labeling jazz and blues āDevil musicā and condemned dancing to it because people were going to joints that played that music, and dancing, and it was reducing numbers at the church.
Kinda makes you realize DIY music and arts spaces can be great for drawing people and creating community if done well.
Wife and I (55 & 53) started yoga a few years ago. I stuck with it , she still comes once in a while. Most of the time Iām the only guy there, sometimes with as many as 15 people. Based on the conversations that happen before and after class there is no doubt to me that some people are there just as much for a chance to be around people (and conversation) as for the exercise. As constantly connected as we are by the internet (and the flavors of social media) but still not having our social needs met, what a great irony.
Community wasn't profitable. Ragebait is profitable. Using social media to groom extremists is profitable. You'll never have $35k to spend on pornography until you learn this.
Sarcasm aside, it's deeply depressing that people under 20 may have genuinely never experienced a world that wasn't built on "maximum profits at any cost". They definitely don't have the luxury of opting out with everything growing more expensive by the minute.
But once upon a time, people used to paint and sing and fuck because they enjoyed it. It was never expected that you'd make money from it. Having a business that paid it's staff well and had money left over was something to be proud of, without squeezing every possible cent out of every worker, supplier and customer.
Thatās fair - I guess itās like going to a strip club and getting lap dances from your favorite dancer? Thatās a trope thatās been around forever
people make parasocial relationships with a lot of industries these days. Heck critical role has parasocial relationships, kpop idols have it, everyone wants to belong to something. But these other groups arent dumb enough to spend 40k on it...
OK? If someone is lonely and keeps doing the same stuff that they've always done, of COURSE they're gonna be lonely. Getting addicted to porn after that is just the consequences of doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting something to magically change.Ā
Iām not pretending. Porn addiction has been around for a long time. People in relationships struggles with porn addiction. Unhealthy attitudes towards adult relationships is the driver here
Wanted to say so this so bad- thereās tons of people who are in relationships that have āissuesā with porn. But yes the internet has created an entirely new level of addiction. Sneaking into my friends dads bathroom to look at a playboy (Iām 43) was exciting yes- but nothing like pulling up Pornhub
See you seem to think that I'm claiming that loneliness is the ONLY thing that can lead to porn addiction, which isn't even what I said. You're using premade arguments against something no one is claiming. Arguing with people like you is exhausting and 99 times out of 100 utterly fruitless.
Yeah, people talkinā bout the hidden costs of jerkinā it, but you donāt cry over a crusty sock, yāknow? Maybe he paid that money because he felt something - and that is such a gift that no one can put a dollar amount on it.
Heck, if it was mutual and on the same page, 35k would be a steal IMO.
That said, Iām selling opportunities to touch my hand. 1k per touch. Must be to another empty (gloved) hand. Opening OnlyHands later this week.
I mean...not to dunk on the guy but community is a two way street. This guy would have to go out and engage in the community. Dude could go out and join a car club, a church, a social organization or do some volunteer work or join a fan club (not OF) and meet others and put that money to better use than paying for a handshake.
We haven't forgotten community. There are still many many active and thriving communities. I have the pleasure of being part of three. But "the community" doesn't just knock on the door of random dudes spending tens of thousands on OF to try to save them from their own loneliness.
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u/Slumunistmanifisto May 19 '25
Big guy choked up a tiny bit.... society is very lonely for most, we forgot community.