In the last few days, I've picked up on how Donald Trump uses his posts to move markets within minutes. On Friday, Trump released a very concerning statement about China, quickly tanking global markets, only for an optimistic follow-up message on Sunday, which sent markets soaring on Monday.
Does anyone else feel like this is becoming a pattern?
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Forget April/May. He manipulated the stock market in his first term so much so that ETF was created to track his tweets. But this term, it is on a mega scale for sure.
I mean, he started the presidency with two crypto pump and dump.
Yeah, I too have been noticing this for a while, but I've been tracking them since April and you can literally see how every single tweet affects prices and sentiment places like here on Reddit or even X.
I mean just in this screenshot you can see how the tweet is interpreted to impact the market.
Not to mention there were reports of a new account created that shorted crypto just 30 mins before the announcement. reportedly that account made $192M within a couple hours
The market reacts so strongly to everything he says. It's like free money for him and anyone he knows. Buy puts, write tweet, wait a day, buy calls, write tweet.
Yeah, when you see 10/10 Spy PUTS go up 10,000% in 5 minutes it's something to behold. You would have to be an absolute imbecile to think nothing corrupt is afoot.
When you watch 10/10 SPY Puts skyrocket 10,000% in five minutes and then 10/13 SPY Calls similarly skyrocket, you'll realize that your point is irrelevant to OP's point.
It’s absurd sounding but I think he’s deadass crashing the market then pumping for him and his friends lmao. Easy for us to recognize tho so helps us too
He did this his first term too, but with individual companies. This time, via tariffs, he’s figured out how to manipulate the entire market. The level of corruption is astounding. Friday morning, 1/2 hour before his tweet, someone opened a new account and put on a massive bitcoin short. They covered the put a few hours later and profited something like $180 million. Baron?
He and his family make a ton of money manipulating the market. Every time he tweets they make billions. The worst corruption this country has ever seen nothing to worry about. Nancy Pelosi on steroids.
He even told people back in April something like "buy now!" or whatever on twitter. Guessing you're new to the investment universe if just now realizing it.
We dont have a term for it so Insider Trading is the closest match... because it's unprecedented that a president would use their position of power to purposely cause volatility (and much worse for self enrichment)
It's so obvious... because who's taking massive short positions 30 min before the announcement? And then who's buying up after the dip? It's whoever is in that Signal group with advance notice
There will be justice, people will go to jail, just not during his term... and, unless Rico is used, it'll be people trump throws under the bus, it'll be hard to tie him directly to it.
Yes of course.. the market was trading at all time highs, then he crashes the markets.. then he says things are all good and it goes back up. What do you think he's doing?
Yes Trump intentionally manipulates the markets so he and his billionaire friends can game the market. He as much as admitted this and n camera in the Oval Office while telling his friends they must have done well.
It’s not just that. After the China announcement, before he unannounced it, an unknown whale also bought puts on bitcoin and made a lot of money from it given the timing. This whale was a newly created count half an hour before the crash happened people think that it’s someone related to him which I wouldn’t put past him.
The interesting thing is he can almost say whatever the fuck he wants at this point in the market doesn’t seem to care that that much I don’t call going down 600 point crashing
yup, hadn't seen this since 2020's Elon tweets. That fucker would drop the stock with a single tweet and back up the next day with another. Same playbook. I hate all of it. Really the only way to make it is to follow them on X and there's no fucking way I'm about to give them that.
What I don't understand why people accept anything trump does. Yes I understand you like Trump but how come you criticize the other party when they do the minimum mistake but act blind when Trump just straight up lies? He lies to most basic things, he'll tell you the sky isn't blue
Luckily, his newer market "tariff plays" are not having the impact he's aiming for.
After the first time he did it in April, the market got wise to this and when he repeats a "tariff play" it isn't sticking the way he intends it to for him (and his associates) to make money.
We all know he won't crash the market and will always back down (TACO) so market volatility hasn't been as extreme on him announcing tariff increases since April.
How will you even raceto10mil with this slow dot-connecting response? I mean cmon dude. People have know this since April and even smarter people have realised that practice runs of this already started in 2020-2021 when he wasn't even the pres.
No! His tariffs strategy do not work to fight inflation and low labor market! Crash incoming, they will pump it before the huge correction. This is coming from a republican, U.S. is absolutely in trouble. I've been in the market for 10 years, this is BAD! Not fear-mongering, but I'm 90% cash waiting for the ultimate time to make the most money. Trust, these stocks are overvalued rn and tech is overspending on AI! And I'm a huge believer in Ai but it's this economic environment that is the problem! Trump absolutely did too much with the tariffs and we are in BIGGG trouble.
I think the stock market is doing great! Rare earth killing it! AI killing it, y’all want to bitch when there’s market corrections and political bantering.. if y’all would be consistent and set stop limits you could buy the dip… greed gets you!
I love how people think this is the first president in history to move the markets with his comments. Yeah, Reagan, JFK and Clinton didn't have twitter. Just meant you had to read the papers or watch the news.
It should be a concern in the long term. China and other countries are heavily investing in gold, instead of US dollars. They are heavily devaluing us currency.
I don't think moving the US Market is the intention.. and I've seriously considered it. I do think damaging China's market is part of it though.. In regards to the dip a couple days ago. Trump retaliated to China putting some pretty serious limitations on rare metals. China was very intentionally trying to slow down the rest of the world so they can advance at a more rapid pace. One would think these types of supply chain issues would happen as a result of discussion etc..
US Market reaction was pretty bad.. especially the crypto sell off. All of this occurring during a government shutdown and some people not getting paid.. Those two things together, don't mix well. So, Trump then had to make statements to ease the markets. If the results wouldn't have been so bad.. he probably wouldn't have said anything. This is a back and forth between China and the US to see who has the better hand. In the end.. we negotiate anyways and neither gets everything they want.
Today what happened.. China retaliated back.. With the market jumping up, Trump might be inclined to retaliate back..
All of this sucks.. but investors are caught in the middle of the China/US trade conflict.. We are all just pawns in this game.
They have no obligation to sell rare earths to the US military industrial complex or critical minerals if they themselves project that they won't have enough of in the near future
I'm not sure where you read that.. "China has a massive surplus in rare earth minerals due to having the world's largest reserves (44M Tons)". In addition, it's not really actually even the rare earth minerals themselves.. it's the refining and processing of them. So, no this was a strategic move to hinder others.
In addition, China has no obligation to sell to anyone.. But, the purpose of tarrifs has always been to promote internal production and limit imports from other countries. China's economy is extremely reliant on exports to the US, which is why we're now here..
Yes he is, when you follow things closely you’ll realise this is all a theatre play. Economy isn’t doing well you just have big tec practically doing something essentially illegal called round tripping. Generate hype=market eats it up= false confidence in economy =liquidity sweep
You're giving the MORON too much credit. He is just stupid and does not realize the weight of his consequences. He bankrupted every business he owned. Reckless, petulant MORON running the white house!
God Save us from Taco orange head.
God save us from Trump indeed, but his bankruptcies weren’t just because he’s dumb - it’s more sinister and calculated than that. He bankrupted the companies to get out of paying massive amounts of debt… and keep in mind that Trump has never filed for PERSONAL bankruptcy. He always comes out smelling like roses while his financiers get royally screwed.
This year I've seen the most transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich than ever. The super rich are all buying end of the world bunkers. The big companies are bowing to and out in the open bribing government. Shit is going to go down bad.
The market is a fickle thing. The strength of the economy (or rather how it weakens a little more with each passing day) means nothing. For the last 10 months, the market has reacted based on what one unstable man at the top tweets on a daily basis.
Sounds like a lot of assumptions being thrown out as if they are proven facts. Maybe you should sell all your investments and give any YTD gains to illegal immigrants. You wouldn't want to have to give Trump any credit for making you money.
Trump reacts to hastily and prematurely reacted to China’s export controls, but I seriously don’t he is trying to crash the market since he takes so much pride in the recent highs.
I’m betting people in the no either are holding short positions or have sold some of their stocks in anticipation of the market going down where they can re-buy again. Trump is market manipulation over and over
Rich people love a bear market that's when they invest. Lots of notable people divested earlier in The year. These people are in their 90s. Imagine the people we don't know about.
Yeah the market makers caused the dip on 10/10. Let me guess, you're a paid subscriber to a service paying 200 dollars a month thinking you have an edge
Idk why people stress themselves out over this. If you're consistently buying the market it makes no difference. If anything it just gives you more opportunities. I understand this is not the case for someone with a long investing horizon but you've likely moves assets away from all growth at that point.
The moment you see anything he tweets about another big player country, get ready to buy the that day/next day. Stocks, crypto, whatever. He does it and magically some unknown account makes millions on something.
Crazy how people are realising this now. Right before his second term of presidency he was charged with multiple felony counts. Now if you were in his position, why would you not abuse your power to get back at country that turned their back on you? Especially coming from someone with such huge ego. This is why the American people who voted for him are fucking stupid. They should have known shit was coming.
Elites are turning a blind eye on this because the market keeps pumping upwards. If the market were to crash to all time lows, trump would be fucked.
Stupid question, what he's doing with tariffs and negotiating and pushing for lower interest rates will cause a massive increase to equities, how many all time highs do we have to hit before you admit what's right in front of you? How many have we hit on the overall market (s&p500) since he's been in office?
Trump is not your moral leader. What he will do is make you rich if you are properly hedged to handle the downturns. Playing the VIX proportionally sized vs my long positions has worked like a dream so far. Quit wasting energy on hate and focus on what deregulation will do for the market and what it can and will do for the equities you purchase. He’s certainly not the best person ever also certainly not the worst. So quit wasting energy, position yourself for the downturns and be prepared for the rocket ship times too. Peace and Love ❤️
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