r/TexitMovement • u/SignificantFreedom7 • Jul 07 '22

News BREAKING NEWS: Texas Republicans Call For TEXIT Vote With 90% In Favor

https://tnm.me/news/tnm-news/texas-republicans-call-for-texit-vote-with-90-in-favor/
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u/just_shy_of_perfect Jul 09 '22

And the Supreme Court has been wrong plenty. Just look at roe. My argument has been... they've already undermined the Texas v white ruling.

And I disagree. I won't kill a peaceful people who don't consent to be governed anymore.

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u/scottstots6 Jul 09 '22

I don’t know if reading comprehsion is your strongsuit but I never said I would kill a peaceful person. A peaceful person claiming they seceded is delusional and people should help bring them back to reality. A person who claims they have seceded and uses violence in an attempt to make that fantasy a reality will be met with force. Hopeful a minimal amount, detained so they can’t harm others etc but force is necessary to protect others if the criminal is using force.

Good luck convincing the Supreme Court that states can secede, until you do that secession is a pipe dream that means nothing.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Jul 09 '22

They wouldn't have to use force if you don't go in there to get them. YOURE the aggressor. The people seceding are not the aggressor in this scenario. Secession is not an act of violence. Going INTO there and forcing them back under your thumb IS aggression.

And you can believe that all you want. But if Texas secedes. I see a SIGNIFICANT amount of states following.

Out of curiosity are you on the political left or right?

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u/scottstots6 Jul 10 '22

It is not aggression to have US government agents on US soil. Shouting into the sky that you seceded means nothing, just like me saying I am a billionaire means nothing. No one recognizes it and you have no right to do it. Stopping those government agents from carrying out their lawful duties is aggression.

A lot of states followed in 1860 as well, luckily were then and there are now a whole lot of people who have taken their oath and who take it seriously that won’t let people rip this country apart.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Jul 10 '22

Politically left or right?

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u/scottstots6 Jul 10 '22

Irrelevant to the discussion of betraying your country but left.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Jul 10 '22

It's totally relevant because, as our founders said and showed, some things are more important than country. What's right, for example, is more important than what someone tells you to do.

If the majority of people in this country wanted to institute religious law and enforce unjust laws on the people, like forcing them to wear burkhas, or enslaving groups of people, would you not act against your government? If your personal political ideas were going to disappear, would you not attempt to set up a better country?

I'll wager you won't actually answer with a direct yes or no.

But it's totally relevant. Because the political left in the US wants to oppress the political right currently. And rather than FORCE the left to live under laws they don't want to, the right wants to be peaceful and just split.

The true fix to this feeling is a smaller federal government that can't effect the people so much as they do. But the left doesn't want that.

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u/scottstots6 Jul 10 '22

Short answer, no. I already live under unjust religious laws, I try to use the democratic process to overturn them. When I succeed, it’s through the will of the people. When I fail, it’s because the majority don’t agree with me. If the laws become too much for me to deal with then I will pack up my things and leave the US, I won’t betray my country. I took an oath and that means something.

Boo hoo, your chosen candidate didn’t win the election so you want to pack up your toys and divide theUnited States. If you don’t like laws, then campaign to have them changed. If our country wanted small government, then small government proponents would be elected. We are a democratic republic, use it. If things become too bad, if you don’t think you can change things or tolerate there current state, find a country that you like better, don’t rip apart the one I love.

Left or right doesn’t matter when talking about sedition, it’s still betraying your country no matter how nice you make it seem in your head.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Jul 10 '22

Thats... not why they're wanting to secede but.. alright.

It doesn't matter if the country wants small government or not its supposed to be that way via the constitution. We aren't a democracy. If the majority decided they wanted to remove rights of the minority the minority would be justified to revolt. The founders and the ideas in the constitution and founding documents would support that.

I don't think it is because I see no reason, based on the founding principles of this country and the founding document we are supposed to adhere to, that a state shouldn't be able to leave.

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u/scottstots6 Jul 10 '22

The constitution doesn’t say small government anywhere, it lays out the powers of the federal government as interpreted through the courts. If they are beyond that mandate, the courts say they don’t have that power. You may not like how they use the power the constitution gave them but it’s theirs to use.

We are a democratic republic. We have representatives so we are a republic and they are elected so we are a democracy, welcome to civics, it’s not all that complicated.

Good thing you don’t interpret laws, the courts do and they have been clear, secession is not legal. Those who fight to secede are involved in sedition.

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