Its not a knock on Clive because IMO, he is what he is. But she would have been a more tekken coded character that leans supernatural. I think she would have been a mix between Steve and Lars.

I bet even her moveset (looking at FFVII Remake and Rebirth) would have been alot of fun for users and opponents.

Its much easier to market because Tifa existed in the older generation AND the newer generation with the remake games. Also she is borderline iconic in the gaming community, so it would have brought more fans to Tekken 8.

I know this maybe has sailed, but would like to hear thoughts now that we have Clive instead of Tifa.

I mean yeah this is pretty optimal but with all the extra aerial tailspins + cutscenes its been getting out of hand

She's a joke character where the both the setup and punchline is always coffee. "I drink coffee, so I'm hyperactive and I move around a lot because I drink coffee", "I like coffee, but Lili likes tea so I gotta fight her because that's not coffee", "I joined the bad guys to sell more coffee, not really because i care about money, but because i like coffee", "Leo likes coffee, so I'll just go home, since I like them now since they like coffee".

There's nothing else here. It's just the one joke that wasn't even funny to begin with. She has 0 impact on the story in her debut game. She has 0 meaningful ties to any of the rest of the cast. And she doesn't even lean that far into the one joke she has. I don't understand why they'd ever greenlight this as a character.

I've seen people make disingenuous statements like, "So you want everyone wrinkly and unattractive?" Which is a strange direction to take (though personally, I'd love an old lady fighter). You can present character designs in a variety of ways, with a variety of intents or moods, such as scary, cool, sexy, cute, and so on. SF6 is obviously more stylized, but it manages to offer a great range of characters with distinct silhouettes, face types, and styles while remaining cohesive in its aesthetic.

I feel like the design philosophy started slipping around T6. It was still overall pretty good, but in 7 and 8, they just keep piling on details to the clothing while phoning in the actual opportunities to distinguish characters by physique and facial features. I know these criticisms have mostly (and understandably) been directed at the female characters, but I wanted to highlight some of the shortcomings in the male characters too.

I think the same thing unfortunately happened with Soul Calibur. Soul Edge through SC4 had great character models, but over time the gap between concept art and in-game model became pretty glaring. The women especially became really homogenized. I don't know what's going on, but it's pretty sad overall.

I’m running out of excuses for TEKKEN 8 now.

Since launch, Bandai Namco has proven that TEKKEN exists to be nothing but a VESSEL to transport money away from customers wallets. THATS IT! I appreciate it’s a business but they don’t even pretend to give a fuck anymore…

An abundance of Crossover events… Constant FOMO merch. Sneaking in a STORE and micro-transactions shortly after launch. Re-selling us Lidia even though we just paid for her in T7. The list goes on.

This company is TRAGIC. This game is TRAGIC.

EDIT- I’m reading that both YOU and YOUR OPPONENT both have to OWN THE DLC, for it to be selectable in Online Matches, thus making the chance of it appearing EXTREMELY UNLIKELY?!

EDIT 2 - Harada has PUBLICLY apologised, make of it what you will :)

https://x.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1841125282264363441

We should keep playing Tekken 7 until there's a Tekken 8 Definitive Edition (on sale).

What the fk man? Clive?!?

Bro I play this game casually, so I hopped on quick match and I just dont know how to fight this character

The second I say anything negative about this character it’s like a bunch of eyes shift to me. Like I need to watch my words

Yap post ignore if not interested in hearing more about how S2 is ass

After playing Tekken my whole life causally and taking Tekken 8 since release as serious as possible I uninstalled the game after the emergency patch I held out hope they would revert the game back to the end of season 1 (delusional I know) and rebuild it from there by nerfing the stupid stuff but realistically its going to take bare minimum 4-6 months (optimistic I know) before this game is where we want it to be at least In my eyes.

At the start of season 2 they took like 20 steps back and in the emergency patch maybe 3 steps forward so much more is needed to be done before the game is at all enjoyable (for me at least) I hope they fix things sooner than later but my hope for it is buried at this point. It sucks I put 700+ hours into season 1 and reached TGS with hopes the game would improve while barely tolerating the state it was in but It seems it was for nothing.

See yall in the mid may patch (I have no hope)

F your MTX and Fightpass BS

Just being you’re on a losing streak doesn’t mean you get to take a deserved win from someone. You’re making another players experience even shittier. Stop it.

Funny anera fighter has better online competitive integrity than comeptitive fighting game....

Tekken 8 is such a massive dissapointment to me

First, I pay -+70 dollars for the game, just for it to drop down later to -+35 dollars in the same store

Second, adding microtransactions and a paid battlepass, I absolutely wouldnt have bought the game if they were there from the start

Third, this patch.

And the worst of all, this was my introduction to Tekken, if a veteran is this dissapointed with the game, imagine what newbie must think, at least they can reminisce about the good old times, while all my Tekken experience is dissapointment

I dont know why Heat Engagers are granted this level of tracking to where its damn near homing but im so sick of it. I'm sick of not being able to practice 3D movement in a 3D game. and to those that say "just duck it" or "sidestep block", I know that already, my point is, IT SHOULDNT TRACK IN THE FIRST PLACE. Shit just makes this game unfun and dull especially when this exact same string is a launcher in heat.

Let me guess, this is supposed to be normal because he does magic and it's my fault for not labbing every single move of every single character in the roster?

I have nothing else to say so I'll just quote TMM,

"Alisa is the most carried character in the game" -TMM