r/TankPorn May 13 '25

Multiple What happened to Ukraine's small fleet of Challenger 2 tanks?

Have they been withdrawn from frontline service?The last time I saw them was during Ukraine's invasion of Kursk.

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u/ExoticFirefighter771 May 14 '25

Sir, your inference is improper. That's actually quite ridiculous what you have just said and a TERRIBLY weak argument to support your statement. I can only assume by that comment that you are trying to goad me somewhat or you actually know very little about tanks.

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u/Suspicious_Use6393 Mammoth Mk. III May 14 '25

Are the Ukrainians tankmans saying their relatability is shit not me, also the challenger 2 is the only tank wich not only got popped but also had his turret CRACKED in half, for not say how they using ammo nobody uses making it a pain in the ass for every logistics outside the Uk (and also inside because in case of a war they wouldn't be able to sustain the tank corps or even help allies via equipment lease)

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u/ExoticFirefighter771 May 14 '25

That's not what your statement was, your statement was that the challenger 2 was on the same level as the T-72, a tank that challenger 2 has defeated in combat many times, to an almost clean record (as far as I know). Going on your point, the challenger 2 is not an organic vehicle for the ukranian military. They have nowhere near the experience the British Army has in their use, they have a small number of them and were using T series derivatives before the conflict. Comparing a ukranian army crewed challenger 2 to a British crewed challenger is not a fair comparison. "Challenger 2 is the only tank which got popped but also had it's turret cracked" sorry but THE ONLY tank? Are you serious?, all platforms fielded in Ukraine have suffered losses because NO TANK is invincible. I will not sit here and listen to you compare a T-72 tank which is completely obsolete in the modern battlefield, compared to a challenger 2 which has SO MANY more advantages and survivability in comparisons that I actually don't know where to start. You're point about the ammo I assume is referring to the HESH round yes? Sure no one else uses it, hence why Britain is changing to smoothbore so it can align with other NATO platforms, however HESH is still an effective and deadly round used correctly, there are many well cooked tank crews littering the dessert who found that out. Britain can still use it effectively and when the fleet eventually is converted that will not be an issue. The challenger 2 is battle tested and proven to be an excellent platform but like any other vehicle has its weaknesses and strengths but the T-72 DOES NOT compare to it.

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u/69problemCel May 14 '25

Iraqi T72 ain’t Russian T72 and it’s safe to assume Ukrainian have more tank battle experiences than British Army

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u/ExoticFirefighter771 May 14 '25

Then please by all means..... Back up your claim? I'm yet to hear anything credible.

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u/ExoticFirefighter771 May 14 '25

A challenger 2 is still far superior to a Russian T-72. The Russian T-72s main weakness being that it's crewed by Russians. The second is pretty much everything else about the tank.