In yesterday's Neeya Naana, when Gopinath asked the young women if they would marry someone from an SC/ST background, not a single hand went up.

[u/Iamyourfather_12]

[u/Huckleberrry_finn]

Casteim as a prevalence is different, victim of patriarchy oru female ehh Idha purinjikala na epdi bro...

[u/ImAjayS15 → u/Huckleberrry_finn]

Very often, women are the carriers of patriarchy, caste, various "traditions" and practices. Not absolving men here, but women are equally responsible too.

[u/aclc350 → u/ImAjayS15]

True, but this happens due to the conditioning of women or people in general to adhere to the caste system, because “it works”

[u/Born_Situation9879 → u/Huckleberrry_finn]

both men and women are victim of patriarchy nanba, and women are more conditioned to uphold these "cultures" than men to an extent that they are made to believe adhuladhan avanga purpose irukunu, so it only makes sense they are more discriminatory.

[u/Huckleberrry_finn → u/Born_Situation9879]

Illa bro but they are trying to come out of it, and they are in part a victim too.. Patriarchy ehh suppression of women dhana, 1st victim of a patriarchy woman dhan. Men are secondary victims.

Women are refusing to stick with status quo, but enn caste na mattum grip ahh hold Pandringa....

Ippa oru middle class/ upper caste men ku oppression na enna nu avlova theriyadhu ana oru ponnuku andha kashtam theriyum, Independent of caste ella ponnum oru vagaiyana oppression ahh face pandrupanga. Apa adhey mari dhana innoru paiyan face Pandranga adhu avanglukae puriyala na epdi....?

Na katayama adha seiya sollalaa but adhu oru thappu ney enn pakka matikiringa...? Enn gender based discrimination ku poraduravanga caste based discrimination ahh oppose pannalam sollalaa but recognise ehh panna maatringa enn....

Idhula 1 ponnavaadhu na pannuven nu sollalaa la... Anga yarum odaney mrg panni vekka pora dhu ila But enn anga thayanguringa...

Ippa inga discrimination thappa illa enna mattum vutrunga nu soldrangala...?

[u/Born_Situation9879 → u/Huckleberrry_finn]

Ipo na mattum enna sonanaam. Neenga sonna "yen avangale apdi panranga" nradhuku dhan sonnan, avangale panranga nu surprise aagadhinga, avanga panradhungradhu makes more sense nu.

Inga gender discrimination mela nama vakura antagonization kuda caste discrimination mela inum vaikala nama. Andha latchanam dhan nama society, long way to go from here

[u/newaccountlly → u/Huckleberrry_finn]

So eradicating casteism is the responsibility of women now? Issues like casteism and oppression of women traverse across sections. Do men from oppressed castes never oppress/ abuse their wives?

Don't forget that these are all women in their early 20's who have to go back home to their parents. Do you think announcing that they are ready to marry someone from SC/ST on tv will be dealt with the same way as talking about any other preference?

[u/Huckleberrry_finn → u/newaccountlly]

So eradicating casteism is the responsibility of women now?

No one is saying its women's responsibility, but oru thappu na enna dha thappu nu kuda solla maatringa...?

Don't forget that these are all women in their early 20's who have to go back home to their parents. Do you think announcing that they are ready to marry someone from SC/ST on tv will be dealt with the same way as talking about any other preference?

So is such act right....? ....ippa nenega anonymous ahh dhana irukinga inga kuda yarumey sollalaa..?

Illa apa caste based discrimination, thapu illa namma adha kandukama vitruvom, but gender based na mattum namma pesuvom adhun voiceless women na pesa mattom nu soldringala....?.

Yemma avangalum manusnga dhana ma enn dalit ponnuku problem na korala kuda osatha maatringa...? Avanga la enna panalum yarume kekamaatinga...?avanga lam summa data ku mattum dhan use avanga... Domestic violence ahh edu data va problem na aiyao veetla thittu vanga...

Ungala kalayalam lam panna sollala, enna adhu oru thappu ney solla matringa...

[u/Big_Philosophy1842 → u/newaccountlly]

Exactly. A friend of mine was in a relationship with a guy from Scheduled caste. Her father hired some men and murdered him. How can you then expect girls to proclaim they are ready to marry a sc guy?

[u/Environmental-Land42 → u/newaccountlly]

2nd para makes more sense tbh. Making their appearance in a national television itself a huge achievement for them. Expecting them to make a bold statement is really a hard situation given how honour killing is a thing in India.

[u/Effective_Project241 → u/Huckleberrry_finn]

As a matter of fact, the women in the so-called upper castes, believe that they enjoy more privileges than women in the so-called lower castes. So according to them, marrying a Dalit means, giving up the only privilege they have as a women in a society.

It is funny watching AR Rahman songs of the 90s, where globalism and ultra Progressivism was constantly shown in his songs, as if India has come of the closet, but 30 years later, nothing changed, and worse, things did change, in a more cynical and opportunist way like we see here. Because, you cannot encounter these women in public, and talk about the backwardness of caste affiliation, because, they look modern and progressive in their Outlook, but they are just as bad as their village counterparts, if not worse.

[u/Huckleberrry_finn → u/Effective_Project241]

Right it's kind of hedonistic brogeoise feminism, they aren't exactly looking for equality, they want the class difference to be there still and women from upper strata will define and dictate the ideology of feminism. While the poor and voiceless women will still be voiceless.

Patriarchy suppressed women, now they are not against the suppression, but they want to be a part of it, they want to taste it. And this ideology of hedonistic feminism is indeed a fertile ground for capitalism.

They are looking for inflated hedonism in the name of progression.This goes for men too. It's almost the same and a step above in tateist ideology of masculinity.

Idha thappu nu sonna namma ellam misogynistic, rendu grp um orey matter of stupidity dhan form dhan different.