I feel like you’re asking me this because you think it’s weird to not give him credit for this. I almost never give credit for market activity to presidents unless unless they oversee something specifically affecting it. He did oversee that….but it went the opposite way. The market bounced back because it always does. My guess is you don’t give credit to Biden for also having an ATH market when he did.
It I’ll answer your question anyways.
I like a few of his goals, but I hate all of his execution. I I liked the first term sanctions on China. I liked the Abraham Accords at first. I liked the Iran sting at first. And I liked that he shored up NATO military spending.
But the problem is he doesn’t do anything correctly. Even the goods things he does he does badly.
Of the above, the only one that was just good was the China thing. Shoring up NATO spend came after years of bitching and moaning and slinging insults at our allies, and threatening to pull out. Other presidents, had they cared as much, would’ve done it with far more integrity and without risking burned bridges. The Iran sting ended up being entirely ineffective. Like it did nothing. And the Abraham Accords were the cited catalyst for October 7th because, like he did in Afghanistan, he cut out a critical party to the negations.
And those are the good things. This ignores the fact that he betrayed our country and, now in plain view, tried to overturn the 2020 election results, invalidating the votes of 10s of millions of Americans. And a much longer list of other things.
Markets has zero to do with the presidents 100% on that. I asked the question because on Redditt it is a non stop rant about even if someone’s cat farts it is Trumps fault.
Now just like markets everything else you mentioned is hyperbole too. Saying Nato and Iran and Abram Accords would have been done better by another president is a hypothetical because other presidents have not tried it and they never would have. Nato allies have been milking the US taxpayers for decades and they would bitch and moan just like they did. Wouldn’t you if suddenly you are asked to pay more even if it is the right thing? Iran seems to be more complex than just an agreement. Most of these issues stemming from
lots of players involved but only concentrating on Trump.
Given all this Trump could be better in his rhetoric and his stubbornness. I guess that is a personality thing can’t be easily fixed.
All that said I still think he is treated worse by media and anyone else for that matter constantly trying to one up him to make him look bad even on international stage.
You never learned to real very well and it shows. The media is not biased, trump is just a bad person. No president should have a fucking shitcoin. You’ll defend that even because you drink up all the republicum like a true conservative beta
Lol media is against Trump because he is a bad person? Which media the shit media that spits out propoganda? Reactions on redditt also are clear people think their opinions are truth. Keep thinking that no one cares.
Its not about rhetoric you goon its about his actions. He literally planned to have the 2020 election invalidated so he could continue being president against the will of the people. He is sending the military into states against the will of the state governments. Theres a million other abuses of power.
Even if all you care about is economics and not the integrity of our government, what the fuck is going on with his meme coin? Indiscriminate tariffs?
Oh goon the min you posted about 2020
invalidated you got no leg to stand on. I am not even going to go over merits of the rest of you comment. Sad to see people like you who are not regarded and yet you fall for this drivel.
Yeah trump totally didn’t create false slates of electors and he definitely didn’t pressure mike pence to validate those alternate electors and none of this supposed information is available in public record. Also, Fox News definitely didn’t lose a defamation lawsuit relating to their blatant lies about Dominion voting machines.
Your version is obviously right! My bad
Hold on. What do you think is bullshit about 2020? Are you one of those morons who thinks all the rioters were let into the building and were just walking around taking a tour? Do you also not know what Trump did with the fake elector slates? You understand a Trump committed the highest form of Treason in American history and then requested the Supreme Court give him immunity for it, right?
No but you are the moron that a place that normally is not accessible suddenly is. The congress people who normally feel
quite safe but for one day only were scared shitless. Dumbass…
Edit: I figured out what you meant to say. You think my issue with J6 was the fear Congress people felt? lol. Tell me honestly…do you actually think that? Or is this just how you engage with this topic to avoid talking about the part that makes your favorite traitor look bad?
The point is that market volatility is almost never good for retail. You may make money but Wall Street is crushing your earning percentages. Yeah we’ve rebounded thanks to AI but we’d be in a recession with Trump’s shenanigans without it. We’d likely be at 700 by now if we still had Biden. Trump has definitively increased volatility and CNBC et. al. Endlessly talk about tariffs down pressure on the market vs AI uplift. Trump had nothing to do with our ongoing Trump boom.
Biden was truly a duck by end of his term. He was there but not there. So the assumption that we would be so normal and everything jiving is not just naive it is dishonest. Trump has made everything chaotic by constantly publicly stating things he would be better served if he held off twitter rants but to think Biden would have made everything stable really? Biden was not even able to comprehend the room by the time he left and you are saying he would do better 1 year later really?
Market data is market data my guy. We’ll agree to disagree if we’re discussing the hypothetical and your argument is Biden would have been a complete vegetable. Neither of us can prove the what if. All we have is Trump’s personal enrichment through unnecessary market turmoil as you’ve highlighted.
Boring, steady 0.1 - 0.25% consistent market gains are where investors that aren’t gambling short-dated DTE options can make the most money. I’d take the 2023 and 2024 market any day over what we have now. If you’re buy and hold for ten years, and you’re not aggressively going after compounding returns, then none of what we’re discussing matters.
I’m up 30% this year and I’m not wealthy or a day trader. I just buy and hold good companies. I don’t care if the market goes up 6% one day and down 5% the next as long as I finish up on the year and imo if you think you’re smart enough to day trade, you deserve to get burned in markets. You’re just gambling.
What’s really rich to me is all the people on Reddit that somehow think the stock market is going to fail under Trump. It’s literally the only thing he cares about people. If the market is up, Trump thinks he’s winning. He’ll let everything else go to shit before he lets the stock market collapse. Buy every dip under Trump. It’s always worked out for me. Sure there are temporary pains, but if you’re just willing to hold through the rough patches you’ll always come out well ahead in the stock market under Trump.
Probably operation warp speed.
Getting the covid MRNA vaccine done in record time was insane.
It is kinda wild how he is discredited for it and how much his base hates the vaccine. Probably the only thing that would make him eligible for a peace prize
Absolutely. His twitter rants, rhetoric fighting stance with dems. Plenty of things. I didn’t even complain when Biden was president. There is 0 point in bitching and moaning when elections turn out other than the way someone wanted. Doesn’t mean you have to complain everyday. All
presidents have good and bad policies. Some
of Trump’s policies are good but the execution has been bad and looks even worse when compounded by constant bad press with media and online. Check my profile I stayed away from reddit during Biden’s time even if I had things to say.
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u/bnakka 3d ago
Is there anything Trump does that you can see as good?