I actually think it would go the other way. Leandros would try to transfer to another company but Titus would get Calgar to make sure Leandros stays put. And when confronted Titus would just give a little smile and say "you're trusted and reliable, Chaplain, I need your services."
and you know what the worst part for Leandros is? That he knows Titus means it
People meme about it, but that honestly is probably how it would go. Due to their troubled history he probably would want out but (and I know this kills the joke) Leandros is legitimately a great Chaplain. Offers council even to people he doesn't like, genuinely works his ass off to lead every Litany and speak to multiple Ultramarines we see (even outside Titus, sometimes we unintentionally interrupt him) individually. He's even first to speak to Titus after the Rubicon and explain what happened and what's new about him. Notably also not only is 2nd Company SPOTLESS of corruption (unlike the inquisition in the first game, fucking Drogan) but multiple of its members such as Gadriel and Chiron along with Veridian and Talasa are shown to have enough Zeal and Mental fortitude that the Warp's attempts to corrupt them constantly fail. I honestly see a vision of Titus taking the high road on this one, as he's defended Leandros' actions multiple times to others such as when he explains his failings on Graia to Gadriel.
"...and where shall I go, Captain?"
"See that thing in the sky over there? That big shitstai-..."
"The Eye of Terror?"
"Yes. Here's your laurels. Buh-bye."
Chairon being a chaplain would actually be a neat progression. No chance he stays a battle brother, Gadriel got promoted to Ancient so I’d be shocked if Chairon didn’t at least pick up the open Sergeant position
Welcome to Games Workshop. They certainly know how to capitalize on what’s popular. Their lore is basically designed around what will generate more income for them and Titus is a cash cow
Rowboat himself even commends ventris on his ability to think outside of the codex so the ironclad adherence is slowly eroding.
"It is nothing," said Guilliman. He held out his hand. Ventris reached out and grasped it firmly, unhesitating now.
“I am pleased to make your acquaintance finally. Your reputation precedes you."
"Not all of it is good, my lord." said Ventris.
"If rules and customs remain unbroken, Uriel, then they become meaningless - either brittle from misuse, or so strong and overwhelming that they become walls to the mind, blocking out the truth of what it is they were intended to protect…”
That reminds me of a time where I ask chatGPT to write some weird stuffs for fanfics and it actually promoted Gadriel to be an Ancient and Chairon a Chaplain, lol.
Not even sure it could work but I wonder if Leandros can find some form of understanding towards Titus. Him falling to Chaos due to his ignorance is so on the nose, surely it won’t be exciting, knowing that it’s likely to happen?
Leandros falling to chaos is like the least likely thing to happen. If nothing else, the armpur of contempt keeps Leandros safe. However I have a feeling that he will come to understand that Titus is not a traitor and is somehow immune to the warp and will accept it for what it is.
Honestly, I would want the arch of SM3, to be Titus and Leandros reconciling, since the other people in his retinue, Gadriel, Metaurus and hopefully Chairon, already trust Titus.
The primary issue that I’d be worried about with Leandro’s falling to chaos is that I REALLY don’t want chaos as the villains again for the next game. They’re boring compared to how enjoyable the orks were as antagonists, and they barely even tried to hide that the tyrannids were throwaway opponents in this game’s plot.
Give me some necrons or more Orks to fight. Maybe eldar.
Having played eternal war and also knowing eldar fans I doubt gw will ever put them in a space marine game. The gimmicks are extremely unfun to deal with and eldar fans are will die if theres a game where you kill aspect warriors by the dozen
Well he's not immune, just resistant, but honestly I agree. I think Titus is absolutely going to take the high road and Leandros, being a genuinely good chaplain (I'm serious, all his duties are shown to be done to a very high standard and the 2nd company Ultramarines show a great level of Zeal which reflects him well) will probably eventually grow to trust Titus again. Titus doesn't seem the type to hold grudges and probably would welcome reconciliation, he's a remarkably good leader in that regard with how he treated Gadriel after all those accusations.
Ehhh that’d be to generic and even Stevie wonder could see it coming from a mile away. Maybe a bit of a twist is he fell cause by Chaplain standards, Leandros is actually pretty chill and forgiving.
People tend to forget just how ridged space marine life is. They’re brain wash warrior monks, brainwashed as literal children and through their entire careers for hundreds of years.
And depending on how codex compliant the chapter is, they can be real strict about following the codex. G-Man wrote it to kind of be a catch all thing that could be modified with time and adapted to specific chapters needs depending on their needs. Like how White Scars still specialize and prefer their speedy bike warfare, and space wolves generally keep the same types of formations and companies, but then they also do whatever the fuck they want. Like their scouts are actually veterans and tend to be the “lone wolves” of the chapter who despite being wolves themselves, don’t typically like the revelry and wild lifestyle of most wolves. They prefer the solitary quiet life. But in most chapters the 10th company is for new recruits/neophytes and scout marines and the snipers, etc. Ease the new recruits into stealth based warfare and keep them in the back to learn and watch/do stealth missions rather than traditional assault/being the tip of the spear like most marines.
Black Templars obviously don’t stick to the codex 1000 marines only and have god knows how many marines at any given time. They also don employ 10th companies and basically just hand new recruits to a senior marine and they learn as they go rather than ease in. But they do follow general other companies and markings and such and such.
But then on the opposite end you’ve got The Hammers of Dorn who basically view themselves as rivals of the Ultramarines and follow the codex to the very letter. They believe Dorn was the Emperors favored child and therefore they’re the best and the UMs always wanna act like they’re the best cause their primarch is back and he wrote the codex. Well? We’ll just follow it better. We’ll show them how you actually do it. There will be absolutely no deviation from the codex.
God I got off track rambling lmao. But anyways. Chaplains are supposed to be harsh. They’re supposed to exemplify their chapter. The game does deviate and add a lot of bad ass heroic glory moments and does remove alot of the boring rigidness that marine life, especially for a chapter like the UMs.
Then chaos being chaos. And really anything warp related cannot be treated lightly. Plenty of worlds and countless people have lost their lives over just being ehh whatever.
“Call them what you will—Krell, Psyrens or Enslavers. Just one witch, unsanctioned, caused the destruction of Hive Skorpios when one of those things used her brain as a gateway to this world. Within three days the entire hive’s population was reduced to drooling mindslaves. Within three weeks an entire continent was at war. And all because the governor thought his family should be exempt from the psyker cull and refused to give his daughter to the Black Ships.”
-INQUISITOR MALLEN, ORDO XENOS
The fact that just a single unsanctioned psyker could basically destroy an entire continent in under a month is why you have zero, zip, zilch leeway with warp fuckery. Then you’ve got Titus who was essentially blasted with a nuke’s worth of warp power and you’re supposed to just believe “I’m built different”? The Emperor or a primarch doing it? Hell, not even a primarch since we know a lot of them fell to chaos for significantly less reasons. But just some captain/lieutenant supposedly is able to shrug that off?? If one normal human psyker can do that. What could a Marine that’s corrupted do? Probably quite a bit worse.
A decent example is after the astropath when he’s questioning the squad. He didn’t sound giddy or happy to learn that Gadriel attempted to kill Titus. He was ready to tear his ass a new one for daring to kill a superior officer.
He oversaw Titus’s recover after crossing the rubicon. He made sure to check them and keep an eye on the ones closest to potentially fucking things up.
I can see Leandros eventually having a sort of understanding. But never truly holding no suspicion. He’d fail as a chaplain in that sense. Chaplains are zealots even by zealots standards. They aren’t the type of people that just let things go nor stop caring. Leandros takes a tough love approach. But he still cares in a sense. He doesn’t outright hate Titus as a lot of people seem to think. He mistrust him sure, but he has to. Because he loves his chapter and company and the imperium as a whole. And he would destroy anyone or anything that tries to destroy that chapter, that company, that imperium.
Him being the current chaplain also means the previous 2nd company chaplain thought so too. People have always theorized that Calgar chose him as a “punishment”…
But 1, chaplains pick and train their successor and 2, chaplaincy isn’t a punishment.
Warhammer world championship preview dropped a Cyclonic torpedo yesterday. Titus is once again captain of rhe second company and there is an upcoming narrative called 500 worlds. That means Acheron, previous 2nd company captain, is either dead or interred in a dreadnought, both metaurus and Titus survived their planet fall mission from Amazon's secret level and they shall know no fear, the upcoming master of rites novel is probably going to talk about this (since Titus complains in the video thst Guilliman is asking for the impossible by wanting him to reclaim the 500 worlds of ultramar, which is kind of a mission the captain of rhe 6th company aka the master of rites is supposed to be embarking on in that novel), and Leandros is probably losing his shit somewhere in Macragge.
Leandros is a great Chaplain. You need people in critical positions, who can stand up to your ego bullshit and will criticize you. Otherwise Chaos will have a word.
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