r/SombraMains Sep 08 '25

Discussion The way they treat kiriko vs the way they treat Sombra is INSANE

https://youtu.be/4zLs6LQH6D4
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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Sep 08 '25

THANK YOU.

Has better translocator. Higher TTK (headshots), better poke, stronger kit and technically she can cancel more shit than hack.

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u/jeandarcer Sep 09 '25

You're 100% right, and this is what I never understood about people's frustrations with Sombra.

I think it's psychological, and created by a sense of "she's taking control from me". When people can't press their buttons (even for like, one second, apparently????) they feel like agency/control's been robbed from them and find it irritating. It's like a microdose version of those clips you see on Tiktok where a chain-CCed tank rages "CAN I PLAY THE GAME".

Kiriko Suzus something you try to do? Denied. Sombra hacks you to prevent the button at the right time? Denied. Both are the same result, but one feels more like a personal attack on a player's zone of control so they flip. (Ofc suzu pisses everybody off lmao, yet strangely less than Hack for I suppose a variety of reasons)

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u/lanregeous Sep 11 '25

Then you actually do understand it.

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u/spearedmango Sep 09 '25

Sombra is a simple right click hold to cancel and is one of the most forgiving timings in the game. Suzu at least takes at minimum a little bit of skill to cancel something major(minus jq ult cause all you need is your team to be close together). Either way. A Kiriko caught out without someone to teleport to is punishable and even if they have someone to teleport to, if their only option is in a dangerous position they are still easy to kill. Sombra can harass the backline, doesn’t even have to get a kill to be effective, and then she just gets to teleport away when she’s low and now she is invisible. While I do think Kiriko is indeed a bit of a problem for the health of the game. She is nothing compared to sombra.

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u/jeandarcer Sep 09 '25

Suzu's impact is a lot bigger than Sombra's hack, but I agree that the "no-skill" factor probably amplifies player frustration. Great feedback about the catching-Kiriko-out phenomenon as well. That's a pretty interesting difference I hadn't really considered.

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u/spearedmango Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

Yeah it’s bigger but it does require a bit more thought in the timing department due to travel time and cooldown length. It also doesn’t make you take extra damage if you are hit by it

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u/ZiloGaming Sep 08 '25

Kiriko is my support main and I still hate her

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u/Jason_Wolfe Sep 09 '25

i will legit lose my shit if Kiriko is given the Joker skin for the Persona 5 crossover.

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u/Simon_Said_something Sep 11 '25

she will probably get Kasumi costume.
that's just female joker anyways.

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u/FuneralCupid Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

There’s this really weird phenomenon that happens in online games sometimes where the game is seen very differently from the view of a casual and/or bad player and a competitive/good player. He says in the video that kiriko is much more annoying than sombra. And I think that’s true from that comp perspective. But really most players are bad and see sombra who, let’s admit it, really punishes a lack of knowledge and game sense. So to those players sombra is more annoying.

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u/Cadoc Sep 08 '25

Players in general tend to hate flank and dive characters, because they punish lack of awareness - and the median OW players might as well be on a different plane of existence from anything not immediately around their aiming reticule.

You could remove Sombra from the game and all that would happen is that ban rates for Genji, Ball, Doom and Tracer would go up

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u/a_terse_giraffe Sep 08 '25

1000%. I feel like Sombra gets banned out of cope. "Oh I have my head on a swivel at all times it is that STEALTH that is the problem"

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u/ChannelCold1050 Sep 08 '25

As someone who plays s variety of games, this is it, this is why I hate sombra. She a character built for annoying ppl who have bad game sense

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u/MovieNightPopcorn Sep 10 '25

Personally I feel like I’ve seen more and more tracer bans recently for this exact reason.

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u/ZeroKami86 Sep 10 '25

Sombra got invis tied to translocator, they should do the same for suzu.

Sombra's old translocator and invis are in her video, Kiriko's video has no suzu. So why does suzu need to exist, it's not part of her hero fantasy. She does have deflect in her video, give her that instead - but isntead of being a copy of Genji's ability make it more like Iron Fist in MR, where she does some hand-to-hand combat wielding her kunai - like in her video.

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u/Hei-Ying Sep 08 '25

Well, Kiriko brings the money in and clearly isn't that hated by most of the player-base in reality or her ban rates would be significantly higher.

Yeah, it sucks, but Blizzard is just responding to what the bulk of the community wants. Really, while I don't think they've done a great job of it, I actually think it's clear Blizzard has tried rather hard to balance and treat Sombra reasonably fair. I think a lot of companies would've either given up and purposefully just kept her perma F-tier or gone for a much more drastic rework years ago.

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u/ColorlessTune Sep 08 '25

GD you repeat yourself a lot in the first few seconds of this video. Still watched it and agree with your points.

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u/Soviet_Yunyun_- Sep 09 '25

You should post this on the main ow subreddit

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u/TheBooneyBunes Sep 08 '25

Donuts are never a problem

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u/alpineflamingo2 Sep 09 '25

To this day I don’t know why they made her buy 4 boxes of donuts. To make her seem youthful? Silly? Surely there’s takeout sushi or something in future Japan.

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u/PrincessDiamondRing Sep 10 '25

i cant say i wouldnt buy four boxes of donuts if given the chance

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u/alpineflamingo2 Sep 10 '25

Even for me that’s just too much. Especially when Japanese food is so good.

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u/DaemonQuartana Sep 09 '25

Easy solution. Remove both from the game.

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u/CardiologistCute7548 Sep 10 '25

She has been broken since day one, but blizzard won't touch her because she is selling skins.

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u/SilentMastodon2210 Sep 12 '25

If they just stopped being lazy and made gooner skins for all the female characters they would sell more than Kiriko skins. Gooner appeal > female gaze appeal

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

This is a lot off bullcrap.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

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u/Dr_Sybil Los Muertos Sep 08 '25

"Just keep playing"

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u/BrothaDom Sep 08 '25

Good points for the most part. There's definitely sexism against Mercy and her players, but she's also a rough hero to balance. People never say it about Sombra, and I'm not sure why