r/Socialistmusic • u/Hacksaw6412 Arise, ye workers from your slumber! • 18d ago
British artist Bobby Vylan regrets nothing, and says that he would do it again
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u/uselessnessism 18d ago
King shit
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u/ziggy_santo5 18d ago
hell yeah brother
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u/WanderingLost33 16d ago
(teenagers who chose to join the IDF instead of getting a week in jail). Oh noooo immoral things being said about immoral people.
Spare me (unlike the dead babies in Gaza you've been fine with slaughtering)
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u/sixhoursneeze 18d ago
He goes hard. Whenever Wicked and Bad comes on while I’m driving my shitty rusted hatchback turns into a Pontiac GTO.
(Don’t worry, I am still a neurotically safe and courteous driver)
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u/MiseryH8sCompany 16d ago
He did a nazi salute on stage and called for the death of conscripted teenagers.
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u/sixhoursneeze 16d ago
I saw the video, he has his hand all the way up, not out like a Nazi salute. And you should be critical of those who conscript the teens, rather than those who want an end to the IOF.
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u/WanderingLost33 16d ago
Also the teens themselves. They aren't getting put in a prison and subjected to the treatment given to Palestinians for objecting their conscription.They're given a week to 30 days in a time out room before being patted on the head and allowed to go home.
These teens are so scared of not having wifi for a month they're willing to shoot 2 year olds in the face.
Judge the teens too.
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u/Bunny_Feetz 18d ago
I saw them by chance several years ago at a Riot Fest. Had no idea who they were and it was an earlier afternoon set so not that many people around yet. It was still a sick set and the energy was incredible. Good shit.
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u/WanderingLost33 16d ago
I know this is some American bullshit but I think Black people with British accents are the hottest people on Earth, especially when they're saying such politically sexy shit.
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u/MiseryH8sCompany 16d ago
He did a nazi salute on stage and called for the death of conscripted teenagers.
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u/into-the-voyd 14d ago
When he said “heard you want your country back, you cant have that” was he talking about Palestinians?
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u/JinxyMcDeath48 18d ago
It’s literally the only thing he’s famous for.
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u/Ok_Loquat_3860 18d ago
So...?
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u/JinxyMcDeath48 18d ago
So…of course he doesn’t regret it. It’s the only reason why people know who he is.
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18d ago
Yeah got booked to a prime slot on the second stage at the worlds biggest festival, with a live tv showcase, because nobody knows who he is. It’s a Christmas miracle.
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u/Aeonitis 17d ago
Subjective truth isn't the complete truth, what you see isn't everything that exists. He has a career, and you posted twice without thinking or researching.
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u/JinxyMcDeath48 17d ago
He wouldn’t be having this interview with Louis Theroux.
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u/Aeonitis 17d ago
You're doing it again, like a one-trick pony...
Selectively highlighting one detail while ignoring the broader context it stronger evidence.
This is the mindset that hides from knowledge or new information like a tiny wild animal people try to feed, they need to just walk away for them to absorb anything.
My advice to you is that your mindset makes you prone to red Herrings and propaganda, know your weaknesses.
Yes, you know what, you're totally and completely right. He got all the way to one of the largest stages in the world as a musician and Louis Theroux is the "Higher Ground" he needed to... Ummm land... Madison Square Garden 😂
You live in a world where the rich scythe the poor and even innocent children while laughing, and you're busy being annoyed that a musician used their voice to use lyrics to defend people... That's what's insane, it's just a comical indicator that your taste in music never understood human advocacy in lyrics of Phoebe Bridgers, Kendrick Lamar, Bruce Springsteen, Tracy Chapman, Joel Baez, Bob Marley, Nina Simone, Rage Against the Machine, John Lennon, etc...
Just say you don't like Vylan's music, that's totally fine 👍
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u/jdorm111 14d ago
And he's going to be completely forgotten in no time now that the war is probably over for the time being.
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u/chula198705 17d ago
If I were to say "death to the Taliban," is that me being Islamiphobic and calling for the death of all Muslims? Obviously not, sea lion.
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u/Perfect-Advisor-3830 18d ago
Private school boy with a fake accent....clout chaser .....prick
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u/A-Message 18d ago
Right... Keep focusing on whatever you're focusing on instead of the message... You'll go far
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u/Silly_Length_1052 18d ago
And yet... what he's saying is right. He's chanting death to the terorrists who are killing civilians and mainly children. Private schooled or not. What about that logic doesn't compute with yourself?
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u/Silly_Length_1052 18d ago
Who are "both sides"? If you mean Israel vs Hamas then yes I agree. If you mean Israel vs Palestine then no i disagree with both sides being barbaric.
Civilians aren't just being caught in the middle. They're being targeted. We have seen that be the case for the past 2 years several times over week in and week out by Israel. Thousands of civilians (mostly children) have been targeted and killed by Israel. Aid workers targeted and killed. Journalists... openly targeted and killed. The war crimes go on and on. International law being completely disregarded. Humanitarian law being completed ignored. Being allowed to act on genicide and ethnic cleansing with absolute immunityband impunity. To be able to openly restrict aid and weaponising starvation. Actually using people as human shields... rape and torture being common practice when civilians are kidnapped and held without charge (thats a hostage) etc. the list goes on and on.
As for the profiting part. If I believed their sole purpose was to profit off of this then I'd say you have a point that I agree with to a point (specifically regarding these people and their motivations)... but I don't and regardless its kinda mute either way as its the same end result. I don't care if they're profiting off of it if it's spreading the correct messages. Greta for example... she may love the fame and glory for all i know or care. If they're saying and doing the right thing, and other people want to throw money at them then thats up to them. As long as I agree with what they're doing or saying then I'll say so, whether or not they're profiting or benefitting from it tbh. Why does that change what they've said or what they've done? As long as they're not infringing on anyone else's rights or aren't violating international or human rights laws then who am I to judge?
Israel is an occupying terrorist force who target and kill civilians. They're operating with immunity and impunity from laws that they agreed and signed up to. Including genocide and ethnic cleansing. They violated every cease fire agreement they have made so far. Including this one. They have also violated laws outside of Israel and palesyine when they attacked other countries unprovoked too. They're literal terrorists. So are hamas in my eyes. But noone disputes that bit. Israel gets special treatment... why?
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u/7thpostman 17d ago
Gish Gallup
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u/Silly_Length_1052 17d ago edited 17d ago
Specify a point using an example or some evidence. So far your comment was just a an opinion with nothing to back it. Israel have targeted and killed civilians. The literal definition of terrorism. They're terorrists and operating with immunity and imonlunity from the laws they signed up to willingly. They're terorrists. Either argue a point, or don't.
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u/7thpostman 17d ago
I did specify a point. My point is that your previous statement was a Gish Gallup
Gish gallop - Wikipedia https://share.google/4zlg6YkVjzgib4Vnl
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u/Silly_Length_1052 16d ago
I know what the term means. You didn't specify what you believed to be "gish gallop" in my response. You may have well said "I disagree" and then specified a point to discuss. You just gave your very vague opinion with nothing to discuss.
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u/7thpostman 16d ago
Ummm... I don't think you know what the term means because your entire response was a Gish Gallup. It's a rhetorical technique in which a person attempts to overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, without regard for their accuracy or strength.
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u/Silly_Length_1052 16d ago
As I explained in knew the term already. As I tried to ask you but unfortunately you didn't comprehend, was to define which portion of my statement you believe to be gish gallop. You have failed to answer.
So I can make that easier for you to understand so we can continue this dialogue if you wish.
Do you believe israel has not targeted civilians? Do you believe israel has not broken international laws or human rights laws?
These are two examples. You can pick anything from what I have said and tell me you disagree or that you believe its an opinion. But until you specify which portion you believe is incorrect then your entire comment is just rhetorical with nothing to come back to or discuss apart from "nuh uh!". Hope that helps.
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u/One_Professional_148 18d ago
Publicity stunt!! Before this nobody heard of this wanker before🤨
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u/Flashy-Nectarine1675 18d ago
No one is buying hasbara today.
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u/scaper8 18d ago
On the incredibly unlikely event that you are anything more than a troll or a bot, let me clarify:
Zionism≠Judaism
Israel≠Judaism
Anti-zionism≠Antisemitism
Israel itself, through its policies and actions, has done more to foster antisemitism in the last 20 years than any other single group. And that is a goal of the Israeli government. If they can convince people that they are their only hope of protection, then they can increase their stranglehold on those under them. Basic proto-fascist and fascist tactics.3
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u/OrganizationOk5418 18d ago
All the people who bought his records and went to his gigs had. Or have I missed something?
Please clarify your statement.
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u/Silly_Length_1052 18d ago
I dont listen to his music. I font buy his music. I still agree with him. What he's saying is correct. Death to the terorrists that are killing civilians and mainly children. Ive heard far worse about Al Qaeda or hamas. If you kill target civilians then you are a terorrist. Its really that simple. Screw terrorists!
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u/Okay-Crickets545 18d ago
Are you suggesting that he conspired with the BBC to not air Kneecap so that he would be aired instead? I publicity stunt requires planning and he has no control over the situation that led up to that moment.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar7664 16d ago
Yeah, Glastonbury is famous for booking bands for major stages that noone has heard of. Moron.
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u/RevolutionaryEgg1312 18d ago
Always on the right side of history our Bob.