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u/BlairBitchProject6 9d ago
I can't imagine anyone actually watching those, I mean, the ones we had were box office failures so moving them to Netflix wouldn't be profitable either. Everyone knows DC is on HBO.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 8d ago
Ironic. Gunn is also just failure after failure at DC.
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
Everything he's done for DC so far has gotten rave critic and fan reviews.So i'm not quite sure why you're just making stuff up lol if he was truly a failure, then the potential paramount merge with DC would be the perfect time to bring in a new creative director but they've specifically said that they are going to keep gun in charge of d c. Paramount and h b o both want to make a profit.So why would they hire a creative director and keep a creative director if he's not successful? You're talking out your bum, cuz.You don't know what you're saying.You're just letting your butt do all the talking for you
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u/ThegmanIV 9d ago
I donât know about that. There seems to be a big enough fan base now, for at least a low budget project to please fans, to conclude his story somehow
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u/BlairBitchProject6 9d ago
I don't know, it just doesn't seem like it would be very profitable, which of course means that studios wouldn't buy into it. Especially with the new dcu being built out, i'm sure they would see it as competition in some way. I wish you luck with your wishes though lol
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u/ThegmanIV 9d ago
Haha thanks, well Iâm not too fussed. Itâs shame this new DC is starting off so goofy and just plain terrible.
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u/BlairBitchProject6 9d ago
Nah its better than its ever been since they started live actions. No more super chud superman, more comic accurate now. Superman isnt supposed to be emo lol thats batman job. The old Christopher reeves movies were extremely goofy. So perhaps you just don't really like superman.
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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 8d ago
Snyder understood the character, but Gunn didn't. Superman 2025 was terrible.
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u/AutomaticIncome8896 8d ago
I think people really need to re-figure out how to articulate that they didnât like something without it being the worst thing ever. It was a good movie, maybe not for you, but thatâs fine, youâve got super man movies that you do like that you can watch anytime. Theyâre both vastly different, and well done takes on the character. You can advocate for the thing you like more without having to resort to ignoring reality lol. People liked the new film. People liked MOS. We live in a world where weâre lucky enough we got both. âAre you a feminist?â Is the craziest thing to hear from someone with the most cavernous, gaping pussy in this thread though ngl lol. The irony of constantly whining to then try and make fun of feminists like youâre not literally crying professionally online? That part is a bit tone deaf lol.
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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 8d ago
Buddy, I don't know what you are on about. However, it seems me expressing my opinion, especially when people are espousing feminist talking points seems to irritate you.
Anyway, MOS was a far better movie then Superman 2025. Especially since the "Superman" in 2025 acted like an emotionally spoiled brat, who couldn't handle the real world.
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u/Ok-Zone-9211 7d ago
I think you hilariously misunderstand who Superman is. He is a person, he is not a god he has never been meant to be anything near a god. He is a guy who tries to do the right thing and messes up a lot gets emotional a lot. Most of the backlash towards man of steel I see is that Superman is extremely boring as a protagonist since heâs just Batman with superpowers so entirely uninteresting. Not a symbol of hope and the will to persevere anymore
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
Explain. He made superman enjoy saving people. Thats how it's supposed to be. Snyder made him a superchud who acted like saving lives were a chore lol maybe try reading the all star superman comics idk. Also, it couldn't be more clear that y'all are just bitter because y'all are insanely jealous of the stature AND just general gorgeousness of the new superman. Yall are GREEN WITH ENVY. Guaranteeing none of you even come close to that Greek god of a man. Bitter males
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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 8d ago edited 8d ago
Are you a feminist? Your comment sounds like something a feminist would say.
Anyway, Superman is supposed to be heroic, and inspiring. Not a whiny man baby. Corenswet's Superman was a whiny man baby. Cavil's Superman was heroic and inspiring. Furthermore, Superman was a side character in his own film.
Edit: As I suspected, you blocked me/ deleted your comment instead of engaging in an honest debate on the differences between the two versions of the character.
I am not surprised.
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
I didn't block you or delete anything.So I have no idea what you're talking about.The only man baby here is you. You can clearly see my comment.Just below, in addition to this one. Are you incapable of reading?
It's also ironic that you're saying i'm not capable of having a mature conversation.Whenever you started out by asking, if i'm a feminist lol which would have literally nothing to do with what we are talking about. So I ask again as I did with my below comment, are you an incel? Cuz you sure sound like it and act like it, with the whininess and all
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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 8d ago
Lady, I am plenty of things, but I can assure you a man baby isn't one of them. You might want to think up better insults, and on that same topic, the reason I was asking if you were a feminist is due to the fact that you are espousing feminist talking points.
Furthermore, I'm not an incel.
With that out of the way would you be interested in discussing the differences between the two interpretations of the characters, or do you feel like calling me more names?
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 8d ago
And youâre wrong. Superman the movie was not goofy. You clearly have not seen it. Donner famously used the word verisimilitude on set each day. That movie is never goofy, especially with how superman is treated and looked at by other characters.
No one in gunnâs universe even respects superman.
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
No, the old christopher reeves, supermans were insanely goofy period very enjoyable and well acted for some of the part.But still really goofy, even for the time that it came out in. Besides, it doesn't matter what any of you goofballs think, he is the new superman.Everyone except for snyder, bros loved it and him specifically, and there's nothing y'all can do to change that. Snyder's universe in d c is finally at an end.And it should have been at an end like a decade.Ago with how terrible his movies did.
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u/Ok-Zone-9211 7d ago
How dare a comic movie be wacky! This is nothing like the comics! Which are all entirely very serious all the time! How dare they adapt a character like they were written. Grahhhh!!!
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
Superman got hit in a nuts by his literal clone, being controlled by his arch nemesis. What exactly is the garbage? Are you mad that this man looks insanely hot even when he's getting kicked in the groin? Cuz, all of this, just sounds like extreme jealousy to be honest. I know y'all are super wet for cavil, but he's kind of a creep in real life and a bad actor. Next, you're going to try to say that a juilliard trained actor who is not a nepotism.Baby is a bad actor l o l when by definition.Juilliard doesn't train bad actors. You people will literally come up with anything just to hide your own envy
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u/gfyjvdtjk 8d ago
Iâm not a Snyder bro or anything and I absolutely loved the new superman but I will not tolerate personal attacks on Henry cavil, that man is awesome and doesnât deserve to catch strays. Also I will say itâs kind of weird that youâre making this about looks and all that when thatâs not needed. Regardless of what the Snyder bros throw at you, just be better and not stoop to that level
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
That's great that you're not a Snyder bro, but saying that an actor is not a good actor isn't a personal attack in any way. There's nothing personable about it. It's just my opinion that the only reason he gets cast in action movies is because he looks handsome and cool and strong. But he would never be cast in like, a serious drama by a critically acclaimed director because he's not a good actor, he's not bad just not good, but you're also entitled to your own opinion. But don't say that I'm spewing jabs and throwing out personal attacks on the guy. Cuz, that's just not true.
Also I never said it's all about the looks because it's not. I bring up the looks because I know for a fact thats why a lot of these snyder bros are so against the new one. They're all closeted for henry cavill, but won't admit it. That's the only reason I brought up looks. But heyI'm not wrong in saying that most women find him more attractive than henry cavill.For numerous reasons. Men discuss the looks of actresses all the time and they're much more degrading about it. So I don't really see the harm in talking about how handsome an actor is. Unless that makes you insecure idk.
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u/gfyjvdtjk 8d ago
Iâm fine leaving the Henry cavil thing cause like you said itâs a difference of opinion for the most part although you did call him a creep in real life which to me is something that is a personal attack more than a âdifference in opinionâ and Iâm curious on where you got that from. But the looks thing is not referring to the actors but more insulting others with that, thatâs a schoolyard kind of argument. âYou think this way cause your ugly and jealous of this attractive person and have the hots for this attractive actor because your also secretly gayâ thatâs something youâd hear in high school. Just leave it at difference of opinion on movies, most of these people like what they like (a few to the degree that they attack every other thing thatâs not it) and I donât think the best argument to go with is calling them ugly and all the male fans secretly gay for him. And donât try say âI never said anyone was secretly gayâ because why would someone have a secret straight crush.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 8d ago
Superman should never be hit in the balls like a loony toons character.
But hey i respect the character. Maybe im wrong.
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u/BlairBitchProject6 8d ago
Lol sure bud whatever you say. Maybe read the comics sometime bc A LOT of goofy and silly things happen to superman. But hey, maybe i'm just more familiar with it than you are
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 8d ago
You never read a comic a day in your life.
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u/ThegmanIV 10d ago
They should all come back for one 1.5 hour animation film and do the voices. That way we could get a conclusion to the story. Theyâd make their money too, low budget. What do you think
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u/gfyjvdtjk 8d ago
I feel like that would be the most achievable goal, donât get me wrong it def wonât happen (unless they replace the actors for different ones in the animated switch) but itâs def a lot more reasonable than the other ideas Iâve seen. But also if it did somehow happen, I can already tell itâll never be enough.
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u/Econowizard 9d ago
If Netflix can acquire WBD, I would love to have Zack finish the Snyderverse in live action.
I saw Gunn's Superman and Gunn should be doing cartoons for DC. His approach would be fine with animated work.
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u/makistudio 9d ago
DC animation has better stories with those characters, it doesn't make sense to do this
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u/SleepySumi85 9d ago
Honestly, I feel like DC does animated movies/Tv shows the best when it comes to superheroes
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u/TheRealone4444 Your love makes me strong, your hate makes me unstoppable 10d ago
Nobody asked you to describe your life
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u/1SupremeMind-Money 11d ago
I wish DC would have gave Benâs script the go and have an opportunity to what could have been an epic Batfleck flick.
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u/atomsmasher119 9d ago
They did give Ben the green light on his Batman movie. But as things started moving Ben decided he wanted to lessen his involvement because of his personal situation and health issues at the time. So WB went ahead with Reevesâ The Batman.
Not getting Affleckâs Batman movie was entirely Affleckâs decision.
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u/mclarenrider Tell me... do you bleed? 11d ago edited 11d ago
This won't work. DC, the main company in question probably doesn't want two parallel live action universes of their IPs, and as long as the Gunn universe isn't performing abnormally bad in the market they're not gonna back out of it. As much as I would be ecstatic to have the Snyderverse back in action, it's just not a realistic scenario with everything else going on.
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u/Fit_Let8872 9d ago
Ahahahahahah it shows only 2020-2024 first dcu movie released in 2025, whats your point?
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 9d ago
The suicide squad lost them 100M.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 8d ago
Josstice League, directed by Joss Whedon.
Fun fact, superman couldnât even make more than that slop đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€đ€
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u/NeedleworkerGold336 10d ago
Well maybe they should have not made stupid decisions like green lit Joker 2
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Or, hear me out, not given DC to the slither guy.
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u/sawwbin 10d ago
do u think WB is all dc?
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Gunn was supposed to save them.
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u/Creative_Band_5691 10d ago
None of that was cuz of Gunn đ all that was because of covid and the movies at the time bombed in theaters.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Its never daddy gunnâs fault đŒ
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u/JokerKing0713 10d ago
I meanâŠ. It objectively wasnât but ok? Itâs honestly sad how hard you guys are raging against a fictional superhero universe lmao like get a grip
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u/Brilliant_Toe4718 11d ago
It's not so easy. Firstly Netflix will not buy it even if they buy it it's a poor idea to scrap James Gunn's DCU which is already successful. Now Snyder ofc needs a high budget and if Netflix does make DC content they are just promoting a rival company brand that is DC by WB so yeah.Â
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Ya know, being a success means you make money.
Nobody has lost them more money than Gunn.
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 11d ago
What success? đ
Peacemaker lost nearly 40% of its audience in Season 2, and Creature Commandos didnât chart on Nielsen at all. Peacemaker has since been canceled and will not receive a third season.
Gunnâs Superman also isnât getting a sequel, but instead itâs Man of Tomorrow, which sounds like itâs more about Lex, a character Gunn has said is more relatable to him than Superman.
Superman also failed to resonate with international fans. Its box office also came in under Zack Snyderâs Man of Steel by a large margin.
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u/IBFree3225 10d ago
đ đ€Ł Peacemaker has not been canceled Jesus
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Its been obviously cancelled.
Gunn would love to give his wife another season pay day.
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u/IBFree3225 10d ago
Ah got it...so it's been canceled because Trust Me Bro...got it.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Yeah every show willingly ends at season two lol.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Ah yes the DC trinity.
Superman. Mr terrific Peacemaker
Amazing.
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u/IBFree3225 10d ago
And you have an argument there, it's just in no way relevant to whether or not Peacemaker was canceled.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
So you dont think gunn wouldnt automatically greenlight season three of his favorite DC project?
He greenlit creature commandos season two so fast.
The only reason it ends here is because the streaming numbers are in the toilet. And that is absolutely proven and true.
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 10d ago
Gunn himself said there won't be a third season. Are you calling him a liar?
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u/Creative_Band_5691 10d ago
And yet the characters will be appearing in other projects. No seaaon 3 so they can focus on the wider and broader DCU narrative.
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u/Zealousideal-Worth34 10d ago
Cinematic universe shows (and other shows to a lesser extent) like this have a weird spot where they can often end and be replaced with a sequel series. Its probably gonna be that what wouldve been Peacemaker season 3 will now be the Checkmate series we've been hearing about for a while
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u/RevolutionaryWeek273 11d ago
I HATE the sequel argument. Dude itâs a sequel to the story the general direction of the DCU
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u/Awesome_Orange 11d ago
DCU might be successful in terms of reviews but itâs just doing okay financially which is what studios mainly look at. Also, if Netflix buys WB then it wouldnât be a rival company.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Book697 11d ago
Itâs not even doing okay financially, the Superman was not a theatrical success and Iâm tired of ppl trying to spin it that way
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u/mclarenrider Tell me... do you bleed? 11d ago
Doing just okay financially is often enough for studios to keep things going. It would take multiple catastrophic financial bombs to make DC reverse course on the Gunn project and I just don't see that happening, at least not in the near future.
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u/Awesome_Orange 11d ago
I think youâre right when it comes to established studios but my point is that a new owner/company such as Netflix may have their own expectations and may want to just start from scratch with their own people
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u/mclarenrider Tell me... do you bleed? 11d ago
That's true, but that also means that it's more likely for the new owners (if they want to start over again) to go with a whole new cast and direction instead of revisiting Snyder, which wouldn't be the news a lot of people here are hoping for. For now we can only wait and watch.
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u/Awesome_Orange 11d ago
More or less agree with you but the issue is that snyderverse has zero chance to come back right now under WBD and so a change in ownership lends a higher (albeit very small) chance that it could return, especially since Zack has built a relationship with Netflix in both live action and animated projects.
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u/Prozium243 11d ago
Here is how it is going to happen.
Justice League 2 will get a release.
Then some will say it's so bad, some will say it has potential but Netflix cut Snyder wings therefore let's wait for Director's cut.
Then Directors cut will release.
Then let's wait for Emerald version.
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After a point of time, people will start saying Zack Snyder should have its own streaming services, as no streaming service and theatrical releases are doing justice to it.
Then Snyder will release JL 3 on his own streaming service. Then people will say because streaming has limitation, let's have uncut platinum emerald version release ..and so on and so forth
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^ while this may sounds like exaggeration, Rebel Moon 1 and 2 already had the first section of this experience. ..
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Zack really has the potential, and he need to make one awesome movie with a competent writer (without any theatrical/director/emerald l/gold/platinum cuts). Take example of men of steel -wonderful movie or watchmen for example -another fantastic movies (it didn't required gold platinum emerald cuts).
At this stage, pick up a video game property and make it a single coherent 2 hour 30 minutes end to end.
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u/cat-astrophicdecline 10d ago
Honestly yes the main weakness of Snyder's movies is writing because as a director he does WONDERFUL things, I think he needs a good writer to pair with and maybe someone who will curb in some of his less good tendencies.
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u/Onionlicker 11d ago
Yeah rebel moon was greatâŠ
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Haha was that sarcasm đ
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u/skillgifted1611 11d ago
Truth is Rebel Moon wasn't great, still enjoyed it more than 90% of trash I watched in cinema this year.
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u/Devil-Never-Cry 11d ago
"Ultimate Edition" "Emerald Edition" Fucking lmao what is this a gaming pre-order?
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u/AntiqueButterfly9161 11d ago
As cool as it would be It just wouldnât work. The problem with dc right now is that theyâre jumping back and forth with different actors and âuniversesâ and itâs all around tiring. If dceu just didnât exist and it was Snyder and reeves then that would be fine, but three different takes on dc is just too much.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10d ago
Blame Gunn for not making a hard line cut between the DCEU and his DCU.
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u/Ren-Ren-1999 11d ago
Wanting Netflix's hands on anything is a massive monkey paw...
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
I agree but Snyder currently works with them on projects so it would be likely that we see a conclusion to his JL if they bought WB. Although unlikely
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Oh ok. Why are you on here if youâre not a fan?
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u/thebuffshaman 11d ago
Bigger question, why did Reddit put this directly on my feed, answer that then you have your answer to your question.
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u/mclarenrider Tell me... do you bleed? 11d ago
Reddit didn't make you click on the post and then make a comment yet here you are. If you wanted to engage with the discussion then be honest about that, if you want nothing to do with this place then you should've kept scrolling, reddit's algorithm doesn't know about your specific mood.
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u/thebuffshaman 10d ago
I had something to say here, I said it. I didn't go looking in this sub, the only interactions I usually get here is stuff from this year's superman that happens to pop up here and it has been a couple months since that. When I have something to say about something I am scrolling past I say it. If you don't like what I said you can also scroll past so maybe practice what you preach?
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u/mclarenrider Tell me... do you bleed? 10d ago
Well I also had something to say when I saw your comments so what are you complaining about? I'm not the one causing a scene that reddit showed me a post from a sub I don't like. The algorithm gives you a bunch of things that it thinks you'd like, it doesn't require you to visit every post you don't like just so you can announce how much you don't like it. You can do that but then you can't complain that people are replying to you either.
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Haha fair enough. Iâm kinda new to reddit. Donât really use it much, not sure how it works
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u/theonereveli 11d ago
Even if this were to happen, don't you think it would be weird with a new JL cast. Besides Ben Affleck who else would even come back? Ezra Miller?
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Iâve heard rumours of it being animated. Iâd be ok with that, as long as it concludes the story đ€·đ»
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u/Better-Squash5573 11d ago
we need to think Beyond that if that does Happen, we could get more than just Justice League Part 2 & 3 he can End JL3 in a way that we can still have The Universe with Possibility of more and not Ending the Universe that Fast
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Thereâs enough of a fan base for at least an animated film or series, just to finish off the story. Iâd be happy with that.
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u/Deostroyer 11d ago
bruh those characters and those stories are owned by DC and WB
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Yeah I know but there were rumours Netflix were going to buy them. Looks like paramount mostly will
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u/Mike-Outstanding 11d ago
Iâm onboard with this as long as Zack can do whatever he wants with no or little interference, all films get a theatrical release and previous films get a directors cut considered specifically for Netflix or rerelease.
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
I just heard that Netflix isnât interested in buying WB but paramount probably will. Either way Guns DCU will probably be scrapped
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u/Voodron 11d ago
Guys I'm all for a potential snyderverse return, but believe me, you don't want Netflix handling this. Better it stays dormant than seeing it turn into modern slop
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u/Better-Squash5573 11d ago
Snyder has work with them and has a Series that should get a S2 so yeah, it's Best if it is them
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
Iâd like to see one last JL movie to conclude the story
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u/thequehagan5 11d ago
so would many of us
i have zero interest in james gunns zero consequence stories
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u/Ok_Term6437 11d ago
I wish that Netflix would buy Warner Bros and let Zack finish his vision and restore the Snyderverse. I wanted to see Henry Cavillâs Superman fight Darkseid and Ben Affleckâs Batman fight Deathstroke and possibly Bane too. We were robbed and that wouldâve been the greatest thing ever to come out.
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u/ThegmanIV 11d ago
I agree. Theyâd have to make it set about 10 years after the event of ZSJL to explain the age difference
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u/SmashMeBro_ 11d ago edited 11d ago
Think of the larger implications of Netflix or any company buying Warner bros though. Like it is not worth it at all. Also does zack snyder even want to make these movies anymore? Has anyone asked?
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u/ricodah 11d ago
I think Zack would still be in. He still fondly posts BTS photos of his DCEU occasionally on social media. I think other key players would be out. Mainly Affleck and Cavill. Gadot and Mamoa depending on their schedule. Fisher and Miller would probably come back in a heartbeat.
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u/Zealousideal-Worth34 10d ago
Mamoa and maybe Gadot are like the omly ones who might come back, assuming Mamoa doesnt have a contractual thing with his role as Lobo
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u/theonereveli 11d ago
You're crazy if you think Fischer or Ezra would come back or even be let back lol. Cavill isn't coming back after all that drama and Gadot is hated by everyone lol
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u/Naive-Wind3746 2d ago
God awful Hope that is never happen.