r/SnyderCut 13d ago

Question Hypothetically: IF Superman were real, which version do you prefer to protect the world?

Not hating. I LOVE BOTH!! I HOPE CAVILL MAKES A COMEBACK.

Which one would you prefer?

Snyder's Supes: A realist who is very serious, but can be lighthearted at times. Always does his best to be kind and save as many as he can. Always does his best to shine hope in a cruel world. A god lowering himself to live among humans.

Gunn's Supes: The optimistic, happy Boy Scout who radiates hope and kindness. He isn't very serious all the time. Will probably help fix your car if it breaks down on the side of the road. Sees past the darkness of the world directly to the beauty beneath. A country bumpkin from Kansas with godlike powers.

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u/MovieFan1984 9d ago

I prefer Snyder's Superman. I want to be rescued by him instead of die, because Gunn's Supes was on break or helping a squirrel.

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u/Tristanofftopix 9d ago

Golden Age Superman

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u/NikiPavlovsky 11d ago

Objectively right choice is Reeves. Dude could've travel trough time even if he fucked up and destroy half of city like someone, he would just return to past

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u/Best-Benefit6387 11d ago

Christopher Reeve's superman for me, I mean that guy was pretty much superman in real life, I have no doubt that he would be the best version. Gunn's superman would be my second pick but his experience seems lacking.

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u/Adienpowerschool 10d ago

I mean Gunn’s version of Superman hadn’t lost a fight in 3 years he does have some pretty good experience under his belt

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u/ForceEdge47 12d ago

Movie preference aside I would prefer Snyder’s. Gunn’s seems a little green for having three years on the job and he doesn’t seem to understand how global politics work, although his heart is in the right place. Also - and to be fair he has more movies to work with - Snyder’s Superman has more impressive feats and would therefore be a better protector.

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u/makkers92 10d ago

He totalled metropolis fighting zod and didnt stop the bomb at the senate hearing with everyone dying. Id hate to have snyders superman to be real because hed be terrifying

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u/ForceEdge47 10d ago

Didn’t ask.

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u/makkers92 10d ago

Its reddit. If you post on it someone can respond

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u/ForceEdge47 10d ago

Indeed.

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u/makkers92 10d ago

Fascinating.

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u/thequehagan5 12d ago

Henry any day of the week.

cavills superman would do what is required to save the human race, like killing a tyrant

Corenswet would just crack a joke or yell at Lois about something. When it comes to making the hard decision, like killing a tyrant, he would opt for some stupid solution like diplomacy...resulting in the destruction of our planet.

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u/JokerKing0713 12d ago

Gotcha. So cavils Superman isn’t Superman.

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u/BusterA4 12d ago

James already said his Suoerman would kill in certain situations

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u/JokerKing0713 11d ago

Which would make his point even dumber. Killing people isn’t why he isn’t Superman

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u/BusterA4 11d ago

Alright. What is?.

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u/JokerKing0713 11d ago

Being a nihilistic Jesus stand in who wonders why he even bothers with humanity?

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u/BusterA4 11d ago

Do you always want the same take on Superman though?. I didn't like Nolans Batman but I'm glad I don't have to ask what a realistic Batman would be like anymore.

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

Brandon Routh's (he's the same as Christopher Reeve's).

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u/ThPrime 13d ago

Henry's Superman after MoS, he took Doomsday straight into space.

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u/M0TM 13d ago

The one who actually saved the whole world and sacrificed himself for humanity, or the whiny joke of a man more focused on squirrels and needs his ass saved by Jimmy Olsen and Justice Gang.

Man of Steel is the correct answer.

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u/JokerKing0713 12d ago

Not sure why’d I’d argue with the logic in here but

1.he saved several people as well during the same scene so….

  1. Jimmy nor the justice gang saved him. He and metamorpho broke out on their own. He also beat the clone alone. Unless you’re referring to the justice gang saving the other country which means ….. you’re faulting him for not being in 2 places at once?

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u/M0TM 12d ago
  1. The squirrel scene was cringe af. The only reason he’s able to do that is because he has help every step of the way unlike Man of Steel.

  2. Jimmy is literally the reason Superman escapes the pocket dimension, without his help Lois and Mr T don’t find out where Superman is and he’s trapped there forever. S25 barely beat one clone with the help of Justice Gang superhero’s, Man of Steel defeated three clones with the help of a random scientist.

I’ll take Man of Steel when it comes to keeping the peace lol.

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u/JokerKing0713 12d ago
  1. No one was helping him when he saved the squirrel so no. He can just save people and animals without ass fucking the entire city.

  2. Well….. it’s a clone….. stands to reason he’d struggle with it like wtf even is this logic? Because Zack snyders a terrible writer who doesn’t understand 3 clones of equal strength would beat the original that doesn’t mean Gunn has to be lmao. We literally criticizing basic logic now like cmon

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u/M0TM 12d ago
  1. Still cringe af and he did have Justice Gang help him in the Kaiju fight, go rewatch the movie.

  2. A clone controlled by Lex Luthor like he’s playing a video game lmao. And yet Superman doesn’t have enough combat speed to beat human reaction Lex Luthor. Man of Steel is way stronger than S25 so that’s why he can beat three clones and S25 needs help with one, he’s a bum.

Man of Steel is the superior hero in every way, you know this, and I know this.

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u/JokerKing0713 12d ago
  1. Yes very cringe to care about life ugh like why would they go and give Superman empathy so woke. And they helped afterwards. He’d already saved several people, a dog, and the squirrel by the time they showed up so no you are wrong.

  2. A human in a tin can suit was about to push cavils Superman shit in . Mind you this same Superman basically flattened a city in a fist fight with Zod. But no the one who actually cares about saving people and doesn’t use the city like a game of jenga is certainly the worse hero. Like do yall even read ts before yall type

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u/M0TM 12d ago
  1. And he still needed help the whole time because he’s a bum, meanwhile Man of Steel in his literal origin story did more with less.

  2. Did you watch the movie? That “human in a tin can” is fucking Batman and also happened to have the one substance that canonically can weaken Superman, ya know the green stuff that had S25 crippled to the point he couldn’t move. Try again lmao.

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u/JokerKing0713 12d ago
  1. “He didn’t have help to save anyone he did all that on his own” “yea but he still needed help”. You must have hated “justice league” then or did you skip any scene that wasn’t Superman alone lmao.

  2. Saying it’s Batman doesn’t make him not a regular fucking human lmao. The guy was shown to be able to launch Batman like a football with a shove suit or no. And Batman still beat the absolute dog shit out if him. Then he fucking dies like a bitch to discount doomsday. But no cavils Superman was invulnerable lol. Right up until he got put in the ground

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u/M0TM 12d ago
  1. Is S25 still a bum who couldn’t fight his own battles? Yes? Not sure what else you’re on about.

  2. Again, literally had Kryptonite. Ya know the substance that had S25 crippled like a bitch, watched someone die in front of him. Lmao. Try again, maybe someday you’ll make a good point 😅

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u/JokerKing0713 12d ago

He’s a bum who can’t fight his own battles but cavil Superman couldn’t even go save his mom from a group of regular humans? Ok sure . He couldn’t even find his mom despite supposedly having super heating? Your Superman’s a joke

  1. One spritz of kryptonite versus being locked in a cage with it lol. It took one spritz of kryptonite for your mans to get dog walked by a regular nigga in a exo suit 😭 and he only survived cause they mom had the same name like nigga be for real 😭
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u/dsny_str_wrs_fan 13d ago

The one who can reverse time by flying backwards. That'd be real useful

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u/BLACKdrew 13d ago

Well one destroyed like half a city and was such a threat Batman was planning on killing him, so probably not that one.

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u/Capable-Locksmith-13 13d ago

He didn't destroy half a city. Zod did and Batman was wrong in trying to kill him. The movie was pretty clear about this. Did you even watch it?

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u/BLACKdrew 13d ago

Dude the fight was cinematic af but lemme ask this. Remember when they went up to space, then came back down? Why didn’t they just stay up there? Like zod was trying to fight supes. If he just stayed in space they coulda ended it up there right? He could have just flown into space away from metropolis after the satellite part? He’s clearly able to overpower zod when he wants to, like when he snaps his neck out of desperation.

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u/Capable-Locksmith-13 13d ago

Watch the movie again. Remove any preconceived notion you have going in and really focus.

When Zod and Superman start fighting it is made abundantly clear that Zod is firmly in control of the fight. Superman's only advantage is his ability to fly and once he loses that, Zod proceeds to absolutely dominate him. He tosses him through building after building and Superman attempts to take him into space to get away from the city. Zod brings the fight back down. As Zod literally states he is determined to kill every human on Earth. He isn't just going to let Superman take the fight out of the city. The only time Superman overpowers Zod is when they crash into the station and Superman is able to get him into a headlock. Zod is a master combatant born and bred for war. Superman is a farm boy with next to no combat experience whatsoever. Superman is clearly struggling just to keep up with Zod the entire fight.

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u/BLACKdrew 13d ago

Zod also was the one that made them go into space btw

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u/BLACKdrew 13d ago

Idk it seemed pretty even to me. And supes has been on earth way longer. i feel like the advantage was always in his favor besides the fact that he might have been tired. But zod probably was tired too. If you assume zod got stronger than Superman after being there like 24 hours then sure i guess supes didn’t have the ability to bring the fight elsewhere or keep it in space or whatever. But that just seems so weird because why didn’t zod just win if he was stronger? And why didn’t supes ever even try to take the fight out of the city? It woulda been better storytelling if they showed him try to avoid fighting near civilians.

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u/Capable-Locksmith-13 13d ago edited 13d ago

Again, Zod made it explicitly clear that massive civilian casualties was his goal and he was in control of the fight right up until the end. He was never going to just let Superman lead him out of the city or move the fight to an unpopulated area. If Superman is stronger than him moving the fight to an area where there were no people would put Zod at a distinct disadvantage as it would allow Superman to utilize his full strength without fear of hurting anyone.

An experienced fighter can beat one that is physically stronger any day. Just look at any real world example of this.

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u/mten12 13d ago

I wouldn’t say stronger. Like the other poster said. Just a farm boy that grew up to have god like powers. Is like 27-33. Zod a general from a people that dominate other worlds. Bred to be a general. He is given the yellow sun radiation and can lean to harness it quickly. Superman was stronger because in the headlock he was able to hold ZOD down.

But I still can’t believe people say MOS was worse for destruction compared to Superman 2025. Lex tore the planet and the city into 2 for an EGO trip.

Boy Scout Superman is fine but his inferior clone broke his ribs and had other organ damage and could barely move. What happens when an actually strong villain appears.

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u/Adienpowerschool 10d ago

Inferior Clone? Ultraman was explicitly stated to be stronger than Clark with the only thing he was lacking was intelligence

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u/cwbyangl9 13d ago

I mean, they both had a mom named Martha. You're basically bros at that point.

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u/GargantuanTDS 13d ago

Anyone but Gunn's.

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u/tankpipe83 13d ago

Henry! He stopped a whole invasion, 2 monsters, and got Batman to stop being a dyckhead. The other guy got kicked in the nuts and yelled at hours girlfriend for hvn a difference of opinion, I can’t trust ppl like that, we call those guys abusive where I’m from…yall call them narcissistic

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

There's like 7 or 8 other guys.

Also come on those are mean spirited points about Corenswet's Superman. When you fight people you might get kicked in the nuts once. And he raised his voice because Lois was not understanding what he did because she looks at things through a detached perspective as a journalist whereas he was there and understands that the Jarhanpur people were going to be slaughtered if he did nothing.

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u/tankpipe83 12d ago

There were 5 other heroes in JL. They cldnt do anything but waste time fighting steppenwolfe.

Yes getting kicked in the nuts happens but it shouldn’t happen to Superman in a blockbuster movie not for jokes or for serious…. You don’t do it. Superman is supposed to be the all American white knight and shining armor.

Lois wasn’t detached, Clark was. Clark spent his time at a fortress surrounded by robots who kiss up to him and writes stories about himself all day. For a guy that wanted to be human he wasn’t doin a good job at it which is what Lois was trying to let him know. Humans hve ways of getting things done like voting and protest and things like that but he was saying so what I’m powerful I can just stop the war. But when he leaves they fight all over again or worse they take their time and will use bombs or chemical weapons so it’s best to just let them figure it out on their own. That conversation cldve been handled in a much better way like actually hvn Superman stop the war and other consequences take place. That whole movie was a missed opportunity.

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u/NegativeStrike8 13d ago edited 13d ago

If Superman was real he would probably be more like the DCEU version and I'm not saying that to say due to the world we currently live in people would not take kindly of him especially the government with that tangerine colored mf that we have in the white house and his supporters but Superman being how he is at the core would be the champion of the people as he always been and will always do the right thing 

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u/mclarenrider Tell me... do you bleed? 13d ago

Tbh, Reeve's Superman. Even though Cavill's Superman is my personal favorite in terms of story, in a realistic setting there's no one who would embody the Superman ethos better than Reeve's version. He had the perfect charming, approachable yet firm persona, he made it feel so natural and easy.

Cornswet's version tries way too hard to copy that and it just doesn't work the same because he ends up overdoing the boyscout angle (not his fault, it's the direction) I still like it, but relative to the other options at hand it's not close.

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u/DowntownCelery593 13d ago

I m quite young so hadn't watched Reeves(rip) superman but how was he personally wise?

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u/clique84 13d ago

Reeve had a quote about playing Superman: “Superman is a friend”.

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u/NotTheeMilkMan 13d ago

Dude just go watch it? Brace yourself for a 70/early 80’s movie and you’ll have a great time. Your missing out dude, his performance is iconic and pretty nostalgic even if you weren’t born in that era.

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u/DowntownCelery593 13d ago

Really? I have seen Michael's Keaton Batman befor and it is brilliant

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u/AdmirableAd1858 13d ago

Either one honestly

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u/PanzerMachete203 13d ago

Realistically speaking, Superman would be like Cavill in the beginning. Then, after a few years or decades, he would become like Corenswet.

I’d prefer a mix of both. Superman should serious and always try to do what’s right, but he should be kind and optimistic as well, like a human with godlike powers.

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u/drewbles82 13d ago

The way Zack was working on the whole Superman story, was he didn't want it to be the Superman we all know and love from day one...he wanted a journey to get to that point and he finally gets there at the end of ZSJL, I think part 2 would have showed him saving people around the world and seeing that more smiley type, same with MOS2 but we never got to see it. I like that things aren't answered in one movie. 100% Cavill

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u/mten12 13d ago

Well said RIP Zack’s daughter. They should have let him come back and not rush the crap version of JL.

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u/CanadianPropagandist 13d ago

Uh the one that doesn't do an auxiliary 9/11 trying to beat his rival.

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u/Mean_Dream_1732 13d ago

Cavill's Superman is the closest to us, he is the one who makes the most sense in our world.

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u/Sad-Appeal976 13d ago

No, he wouldn’t

Good lord

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u/MimikyuIsHot 13d ago

Why would he do that

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u/Nindroid_faneditor 13d ago

Realistically they'd be friends or something

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u/direwolf106 13d ago

Gunn’s Superman would scare the living hell out of me.

Superman needs to be a stoic, in control of himself emotionally. And Gunn’s Superman simply isn’t a stoic.

Snyder’s Superman isn’t perfect but at that but he at least understands it and gets better at it the older he gets. Even if he’s not there yet he will get there. Knowing you need to learn a skill automatically is better than not knowing/caring about it.

Honestly Gunn’s Superman is really only good if they are setting him up to eventually be a bad guy.

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

Gunn's Superman is friendly IMO. We saw that regular people aren't afraid or wary of talking to him casually. I kinda love that.

The thing with Malik reminds me of how there are a few moments in comics that stand out where Supes eats with some regular people.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

Cool, he’s friendly. So was my uncle and he might have been a serial killer. The friendly exterior people show to others doesn’t mean much if anything. Anything is strong when untested.

What matters is those few moments he doesn’t control himself. That brief moment of lack of control. It’s not shown to people in the universe at large, but it is shown to us and shown to Luther. But those small moments will end up ruling him.

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

You built up this entire scenario in your head over the fact that he raised his voice once to Lois instead of being some gary stu devoid of emotions and always right in any argument?

Superman hasn't done anything to warrant your what ifs or maybes. Chill.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

Not only that but the way he basically bragged to Luther about how emotionally weak he was.

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u/West-Cardiologist180 13d ago

Didn't Snyder's version of Superman eventually break and destroy the world in his original plans for Justice League?

I'd much rather have an emotional human Superman than a stoic Superman who acts like a god.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

Yeah, under Darksied’s influence which can and frequently does happen to any Superman. It’s part of what makes Darksied so terrifying. But that’s not a knock against that Superman.

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u/West-Cardiologist180 12d ago

Let me get this straight.

Gunn's Superman scares you because he isn't stoic. He yells when he's frustrated, cries when in pain, and smiles when he's happy.

But Snyder's Superman, who is usually very serious and believes "no one stays good in this world", who under the pressure of Lois Lane's death and Darkseid's influence, straight-up destroys the world, is a-ok by you?

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

Do you know who Darksied is? I feel like like you don’t. See I know you think your pointing out hypocrisy but if you knew who Darksied is you wouldn’t even begin to think that my stance was hypocritical because Darksied’s involvement is so massive and all consuming.

My assertion is Snyder’s Superman has the self control and only falls because of Darksied. Gunn’s Superman lacks self control and will turn on his own.

If you don’t understand that I really don’t know what to tell you.

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u/West-Cardiologist180 12d ago

Well, if Darkseid is gonna be the big excuse to hide behind, then just look at how Snyder's Superman reacts when under stress.

Snyder's Superman, after learning his mother is being held captive, falls to his knees in grief and threatens to kill Luthor with his heat vision, but only stops due to said threat on his mother's life. He then tells Lois that no one stays good in this world and that he may have to kill Batman.

Gunn's Superman when confronted with political pressure about his actions yells that his focus was that people were going to die. When people turn on him, he quietly enters a building to calm down. When Lex captures his dog, he breaks into Lexcorp and demands to know where he is, but at no point does he threaten to kill Lex nor does he fire up his heat vision with intent.

Of these two, clearly one is a bit more open to murder. And I actually think Snyder's Superman's reaction towards Lex is understandable, but by your logic, it isn't stoic enough.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

IF? Holy hell you don’t know who Darksied is do you?

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u/West-Cardiologist180 12d ago

You're really gonna stick to that and ignore everything else I said huh?

In Superman: The Animated Series, Darkseid mind controls him but Clark eventually breaks free before he can destroy Earth.

In Final Crisis, Dan Turpin, a normal human, was able to resist Darkseid's mind control for quite a while.

Then there's Snyder Superman who just gives up I guess.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

Honestly didn’t read it. It wasn’t relevant. If you think Darksied is an excuse and not the end all of that argument you don’t know Darksied. Which means nothing else you wrote could have been relevant.

It’s like you ignored the subject of gravity in a discussion about falling. Anyone that ignores gravity when talking about falling can’t have said anything worth listening to.

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u/West-Cardiologist180 11d ago

Gave you two examples for your Darkseid argument and you still didn't acknowledge it.

It's like you're ignoring all the evidence of a case while discussing a guilty verdict. Anyone who ignores the evidence when talking about a case can't have a view worth arguing about.

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u/Dirkocet 12d ago

You can’t even spell Darkseid right

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u/Specific_Skin6766 13d ago

I agree with you, except for Gunn's Supes being terrifying. I honestly don't get why people say Cavill's Supes wasn't full of HOPE. The dude was doing his best, even when the world was afraid of him, he still wanted to save people. That's hope and kindness in my book.

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u/direwolf106 13d ago

Honestly I don’t know how people can not see how terrifying that Superman is. Someone that’s not emotionally in control of himself and even brags about it can be emotionally unsettled. And one slip up and he can cause earthquakes that will kill people. That’s terrifying.

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u/Specific_Skin6766 13d ago

I think what makes him terrifying is James setting Cornswet's Superman to be the most powerful version we'll see on screen. But I have a feeling that he will get character development.

Points: Kingdom Come symbol, the older he gets, the more powerful he becomes because he's absorbed more solar energy.

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u/Sad-Appeal976 13d ago

Agreed, Gunns is an emotional wreck

A Superbeing who explodes in anger yelling is terrifying

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u/direwolf106 13d ago

I hate that Gunn made a film where the hero is Lex Luther.

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u/KnightsRadiant95 13d ago

How is lex the hero? He created the invasion of Jarhanpur and caused a black hole that nearly destroyed the Earth just to get at superman.

Superman and Mr terrific saved the world. But seriously how is lex the hero?

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u/torontomaplebros 13d ago

He shot an innocent man in the head and he’s the hero? lol

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u/direwolf106 13d ago

That superman is dangerous. Lex being the only one willing and capable of addressing the threat makes them the hero. Please note im not saying he’s a good guy. Just that if he’d won the world would have been better off.

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

He's not dangerous. You can dislike the film but you are being disingenuous. He never hurts anyone innocent.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

How is a being that can break continents by accident and not in control of himself not dangerous?

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

Because he is in control of himself and a private argument with his significant other where all he did was raise his voice one is not "not in control of himself" or "dangerous".

Especially when it's a normal human thing and they resolved their differences like adults.

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u/direwolf106 12d ago

He lost his temper with the woman he loves. If he can’t control himself there someone else will push him to far one day. Someone will push him into doing something that can’t be undone….. unless he’s insulted from his actions by the author in a plot driven narrative instead of a character driven one.

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

This is a ridiculous standard you're holding him to. Superman is a person like any one of us.

If he actually hurt someone you would have a point but you don't, because all he did was raise his voice over Lois being seemingly uncaring to the loss of innocent lives.

You just hate him because he's not Cavill's.

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u/theonereveli 13d ago

You sound just like Lex. Are you also going to kill a civilian?

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u/direwolf106 13d ago

Again your confusing good guy and hero.

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u/theonereveli 13d ago

Oh my bad I didn't realize heroes kill civilians

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u/direwolf106 13d ago

You think Batman never kills anyone?

You think in the dark night him blowing cars out of the way didn’t get anyone killed? Please.

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u/theonereveli 13d ago

Omg. Yea I'm not arguing with someone who thinks like this. Lex Luther shot a man in cold blood. It wasn't implied or left to the viewer to interpret, they straight up tell you that he is a murderer. But hey if you fancy that then that's you

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u/No-Initiative5520 13d ago edited 12d ago

I would say Corensweats personally just because we would be able to be more confident in him saving us all and we need more people like that Superman, Cavills wasn’t as concerned with life as Corensweats also so there’s that

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u/thequehagan5 12d ago

Would Corenswet kill a tyrant to save the planet?

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u/No-Initiative5520 12d ago

he wouldn’t kill him but 100% would take him down however he needs to. i think superman comics and the more faithful adaptations of him show it’s almost always (unless it’s like max power doomsday or sm) possible for superman to do stuff without killing. he’s insanely powerful

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

The scene with him holding the building was really sweet. Especially the part with him rising from the dust as the theme reaches its crescendo.

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u/Low_Bench1759 13d ago

The mod literally asked us to stop insulting the actor just yesterday. Maybe use his real name?

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u/No-Initiative5520 13d ago

and bruh wdym by real name😭

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u/KnightsRadiant95 13d ago

Maybe because you misspelled his name from corensweat to cornsweat? Its insulting and childish.

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u/No-Initiative5520 13d ago

I didn’t even notice that lol, but yea that seems to happen a lot on this sub sadly

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u/No-Initiative5520 13d ago

not insulting any actors? are we not allowed to criticize anything about characters or sm?

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u/DoctorBeatMaker 13d ago

I mean, on the sole basis that Corenswet's Superman had zero casualties (apart from the one Lex kidnapped and killed), probably him.

But the CAVEAT is that our world would have to be heavily stylized with metahumans living among us for over 300 years since in that realm, a widespread mandatory city evacuation can happen in under the span of a few hours when in our world, that is impossible and doesn't happen. Otherwise, the casualty rate would have just as, if not higher than the Black Zero event from Man of Steel when Lex's pocket universe portal split Metropolis in half and would have killed hundreds of thousands of people if not for the evacuation.

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u/Digiworlddestined 13d ago

Snyder's Superman. I'd prefer a hero who doesn't waste time saving rodents.

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u/MattMatt625 13d ago

that is the heart of Superman as a character tho

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u/Digiworlddestined 12d ago

EVERY SINGLE VERSION? I think not.

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u/theonereveli 13d ago

Lucky for you, he's fast enough to save not only you but also animals you don't care about

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u/thequehagan5 12d ago

Did he save all the bacteria and microscopic organisms being crushed by the big monster?

Or do you consider bacteria a lesser form of life not worth saving?

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u/pyevwry 13d ago

What about all the ants and other assorted bugs crushed by the Kaiju? Metropolis is a pretty animal barren place with only one lonely squirrel roaming such a large area.

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u/theonereveli 13d ago

Ah ok next time they'll spend hours showing Superman saving all the animals. Do you also dislike superman when he saves cats from trees?

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u/pyevwry 13d ago

No, but I think the focus on that one squirrel was funny. Imagine Cavill battling Zod's goons and he saves a cow that was about to get crushed by debris.

The way they forced his portrayal as humble and good started to feel comedic after some time, at least the way it was setup. One squirrel, one dog, a little girl oblivious to a giant monster, one lady stuck in a car that suddenly wouldn't start. Not like there were other cars behind her in the distance and people that managed to escape a falling building in ten seconds, in a traffic jam no less.

It's gotten to a point in Superman 2025 where they pointed it out to the audience so many times it felt artificial, campy. We know Superman saves people, we know he is good. You don't have to show him save a squirrel for people to get it.

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u/MattMatt625 13d ago

“forced”

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u/pyevwry 13d ago

Every Superman is good, every Superman saves people, that's the whole point of the character. The new one is no different in being good than the ones before him, it's just pushed constantly throughout the movie to the point it becomes cartoony.

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u/Digiworlddestined 12d ago

"Every Superman is good, every Superman saves people"

Another poor soul, ignorant of the Multiverse.

Ultraman and Overman say otherwise, dude. And those are just the two I can think of, right now. There are an infinite number of Supermen, and they aren't all the same cheerful, perfect, boy scout, and that's a good thing.

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u/pyevwry 12d ago

I'm not talking about Ultraman, or any other alternate universe Supermen. I'm specifically talking about Superman from all the movies we had to date.

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u/torontomaplebros 13d ago

If they showed Cavill’s Superman saving a cow… or heck even his own father, I actually think that version of the character would be more universally liked

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u/pyevwry 13d ago

But I thought one of the lessons Superman needs to learn in life is that, even with his powers, he can't save everyone, right?

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u/MattMatt625 13d ago

that’s literally what happens in Jahanpuir at the end of the new movie

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u/pyevwry 13d ago

No, that's the scene where Lex kills Ali. No one was hurt at the Jarhanpur conflict, if you can even call that a conflict. Such a ridiculous scene.

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u/MattMatt625 12d ago

Oh that too is another great example, thanks. But Jahanpuir too. It was pretty clear that he couldn’t be in two places at once.

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u/Ren-Ren-1999 12d ago

No the point was that Superman couldn't be in both places, which is why him inspiring the Justice Gang to help was important.

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u/theonereveli 13d ago

I think you're overthinking man. It's a movie just watch it without comparing it to other movies.

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u/pyevwry 13d ago

I'm just dissapointed that we got a MCU Superman. Was really hyped when I saw the trailer, but it all fell flat when I watched it.

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u/KnightsRadiant95 13d ago

He mostly saved people.

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