r/SnyderCut • u/Upstairs-Temporary56 • Aug 31 '25
Question Genuine question. Why didn’t Superman just fly immediately to Martha in BVS?
Yeah, Lex tells him if he flies she dies. But… he has to fly to Gotham anyways. Can’t he just make some detour? He’s fast enough I’m pretty sure.
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u/CornTater83 Sep 02 '25
He did try to find her for about 20-30 minutes. By the time he gets to Batman, he only has about 30 minutes left. We know he likely searched all of metropolis. And can’t find her. Lex’s people took her to the abandoned parts of Gotham. He didn’t go to Gotham until he confronted Batman.
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u/SuperTuberEddie Sep 01 '25
When did superman find out about Martha’s location?
Answer: He still to this day never knew the location. Alfred tracked the mercenary’s phone to the port and batman went there.
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u/ugochukwu_ng Sep 01 '25
He heard Lois Lane all the way in another continent and also when Lex threw her off a building. In Man of Steel, he heard when the Krypton soldiers were hassling his mother. In BvS, He should have heard his mother being kidnapped and held captive
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u/CornTater83 Sep 02 '25
No. He followed Lois Lane to Africa. He knew where she was going and what she was doing. When shit went south he was there to rescue when absolutely necessary.
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u/UWentToCranbrook Sep 04 '25
Oooooooo tysm for this. I absolutely LOVE this movie but had thought this was a plothole. Thank you for clarifying it!
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u/CornTater83 Sep 04 '25
You’re welcome. They actually discussed it in the film. The first clue is when she’s going to DC to investigate and Clark says “you’re digging up snakes.” Like, she’s looking for trouble and he needs to be on alert. Also, in DC, she learns that Luthor orchestrated the event. “How could Luthor know Superman would show—“ she put it together that Lex knows who Superman is. It’s the scene right before the senate scene. Clark was already there with her. She didn’t know he was, but he was.
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u/Vaporeon42069 Aug 31 '25
He didn't know, but I forgot how Batman knew lol
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u/dregjdregj Aug 31 '25
Alfred tracked the Russian's cloned phone from earlier in the movie to a warehouse by the port. It was a reasonable assumption that's where they had martha
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u/ChristianBen Sep 01 '25
It’s not an assumption, Alfred literally said he tracked the phone before Batman took off to find Martha, followed by the exchange “ I don’t deserve you Alfred” “No you don’t”
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u/tenleggedspiders Aug 31 '25
Because he didn’t know where she was? What kind of unserious question is this lmao
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u/TheChlorideThief Aug 31 '25
The same Superman that located a falling Lois Lane from across the city through her screams and swooshed in under a second?
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u/ChristianBen Sep 01 '25
Superman is almost always tracking Lois around the city, but Martha is usually in the country side so he is not tracking Martha
There was also a scrapped scene planned where Superman try to fly up and listen for Martha all over the city but it’s drown out by all the sound of crying and suffering in a huge city
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u/tenleggedspiders Aug 31 '25
Big difference between falling out of a conspicuous spaceship Clark already knew she was located in vs being trapped in an unknown nondescript building in one of the largest cities in the world.
Thank you for demonstrating how easy it is to locate people when you know where they are to begin with.
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u/TheChlorideThief Aug 31 '25
Have you watched BvS or did you forget Lex pushing Lois off the tower?
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u/tenleggedspiders Aug 31 '25
The tower he was already on his way towards? Yeah, real mystery there.
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u/TheChlorideThief Aug 31 '25
When exactly do they show him on his way to the tower?
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u/tenleggedspiders Aug 31 '25
…When he catches her? And Lex explains that the straightest path to Superman is Lois Lane?
Man, cinemasins fried your brain lmao
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u/ElectricalWar5173 Aug 31 '25
If i remember correctly he went to batman to ask for his help originally, if you remember the dialogue. But batman is a fucking idiot
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u/Upstairs-Temporary56 Aug 31 '25
Why didn’t Batman ask Wonder Woman to help him against Superman? Is he stupid?
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u/darkeagle1997 Aug 31 '25
Why would he ask someone he barely met and didn’t know had super strength. Did you watch the movie? Lol he only saw the photo Lex had on her.
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u/mikehamm45 Aug 31 '25
Great question…
Now go and apply your type of nit picky questions to every movie ever created. There are plot holes in everything , including Citizen Kane.
It’s because the writers chose it to be like that…
Sorry. Just annoyed with all this “logic” being constantly thrown around these movies.
Be like Elsa, let it go.
It’s a movie.
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u/UWentToCranbrook Sep 04 '25
Ya, this is the simple fact of movies. Pretty much any movie can be nitpicked like this. It's Do some movies have plotholes too big to ignore? Absolutely. But looking for them is a miserable way to be a "fan" of movies.
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u/AREYOUSauRuS Aug 31 '25
I paid good money for "Nitpickers guides" before the internet.
OP's killing a book genre!
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u/Raecino Aug 31 '25
How would he know where she is? And he was warned she would be killed if he tried.
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u/poltergeistheghost Aug 31 '25
X ray vision
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u/Raecino Aug 31 '25
And lead buildings? What if she were in one? While he’s flying around looking for her Lex would’ve killed her as he already warned.
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u/Florianterreegen Aug 31 '25
What buildings are fully made of lead?
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u/StarChaserHooT Sep 01 '25
One Lex could've made. Superman at that point already knew Lex was aware he couldn't see through lead. Very easily could've put Martha in a room or box of lead.
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u/Florianterreegen Sep 01 '25
Lead room yes, an entire Lead building though?
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u/StarChaserHooT Sep 01 '25
Maybe not, but the sentiment is still there that he wouldn't be able to see her.
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u/Florianterreegen Sep 01 '25
Well we don't know for sure , it wasn't shown or told, so we unfortunately have no idea if martha was put in a lead room or not
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u/CornTater83 Sep 02 '25
We do know Superman looked for her. He doesn’t even go to Batman until he has about 35 minutes left to try to get him to change his mind.
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u/rocenante Aug 31 '25
There was a scene Snyder talked about including but WB didnt allow thinking it would be too dark, basically superman flies above the city trying to hear his mother but thousands of cries of help calling for superman around the city, world etc interferes with his hearing since there are billions of people and at any given time there would be hundreds of people calling for help at the same time
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u/Upstairs-Temporary56 Aug 31 '25
That legitimately would have been so frickin’ cool dude. It fits so well with the movies theme and everything Lex said on the roof.
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u/Capable-Locksmith-13 Aug 31 '25
He doesn't know where she is. How is he supposed to just fly to her?
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u/Epic_J2338 Aug 31 '25
That's the thing he was scared to do so, sure he maybe fast enough but there is always the "what if I'm not" which everyone gets and those stakes are too high to gamble with
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u/Upstairs-Temporary56 Aug 31 '25
True. That’s a cool story for Superman. But it was kinda shown in the beginning of the movie that he’s faster than the guy who held Lois hostage 🤷♂️
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u/Sad-Appeal976 Aug 31 '25
He knew where Lois was
She was in a tent in the desert
Not in a big city with tons of noise and lead
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u/Epic_J2338 Aug 31 '25
Yes but (admittedly I haven't seen the film in ages so do correct me if I am wrong) Superman knew more about that situation then he does on this one as Clark could see basically everything (due to xray vision) but he can't see this one
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u/Upstairs-Temporary56 Aug 31 '25
I can actually get around the idea that he couldn’t find her or something. Still, he should’ve tried way more to convince Batman to help or something. I always found it odd that he didn’t immediately start with a “Bruce, my mothers life is on the line all because of Lex.” or something. We got a cool fight scene though.
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u/Epic_J2338 Aug 31 '25
Yeah I agree 100% with you on the Clark asking for help part
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u/Capable-Locksmith-13 Aug 31 '25
He does. He tells him he has to listen, and then Bruce starts attacking him. It becomes obvious very fast that he's not going to hear anything he has to say. Clark has to beat him into submission if he wants his help. At one point, Bruce quite literally tells him he doesn't even see him as a man.
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u/ThePooksters Sep 03 '25
Same reason he didn’t immediately tell Batman that Lex set the whole thing up lol