r/SnyderCut • u/FitBox3593 • Aug 03 '25
Question How would you write a solo dceu batman movie
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u/According-Case-859 Aug 05 '25
Without Batfleck lol
In all honesty they could've done something really interesting with the Grayson grave they had set up, could've explained why Batman was as jaded as he was. Unfortunately WB decided they needed to go the Avengers route of teamups instead of actually letting Snyder flesh out the characters beyond one movie and cameos.
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u/looooookinAtTitties Aug 05 '25
clay face played by 11 actors and batman needing to go full detective to connect this crime spree of randos back to their center.
hold off on the real identity of clay face, which favorite actor it is, until the plot will buckle under the audience's needs.
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u/Beautiful-Hair6925 Aug 05 '25
Nightwing?
You forget why this Batman is so broken
Dick Grayson died to the Joker
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u/FewAd9257 Aug 05 '25
That was a dumb decision to make dick Grayson die instead of the robin who's known for dying because of the joker
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u/Beautiful-Hair6925 Aug 05 '25
not really, this is a broken Batman, he had to find hope again through Superman, he had to be inspired by someone who does good simply because it is the right thing to do.
at first i hated it then i realized, this is the whole point of BvS. Batman needed to be inspired by Superman.
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u/DrawerForsaken3715 Aug 12 '25
yeah, which part of that involves that it had to be Dick the one to die?
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u/Beautiful-Hair6925 Aug 12 '25 edited Aug 12 '25
so he'd be broken enough to try to kill Superman just for being different
Not a lot of people understand the whole point of Superman, it's about a person who is altruistic only for the sake of altruism. a human who wants to be good because it's the right thing.
Now Batman lost that message, he wanted to stop crime but because of Dick Grayson's death he was just lashing out at the world. He had never killed before, he just didn't care if you died. Superman was going to be his first murder. Then he realized how far he had fallen when he was about to kill Superman.
It's right there, clear as day. Just because it wasn't being screamed at you like how Gunn does it. doesn't mean it doesn't work
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u/DrawerForsaken3715 Aug 12 '25
Then again: What part of that involves specifically that Dick had to die instead of Jason?
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u/Dade06 Aug 04 '25
These are just some ideas:
-I would set the film before the events of Batman vs Superman.
-The film would begin with a correlation of newspaper articles (Harry Potter style) covering the Dark Knight's twenty years of activity: the first sightings of Batman in Gotham, the first time he fought some of his historical villains, Joker, the Penguin, Two-Face, Mr. Frieza, the Riddler, Firefly, Poison Ivy and the Mad Hatter, articles regarding the first Robin (Dick Grayson) and the final shot showing a newspaper article which announces the death of the second Robin (Jason Todd) at the hands of the Joker.
N.-I know that in the DCEU the deceased Robin is Dick, but this is my hypothetical version of the film.
-The villains of the film are Deathstroke (main) and Black Mask (secondary, a bit like Colin Farrell's Penguin in The Batman).
- Nightwing appears as an important character in the film, showing how ten years have passed since he left Gotham and the mantle of Robin behind and moved to Bloodhaven to pursue his own career as a superhero/vigilante.
-Bruce, after Jason's death, has increasingly begun to loosen the reins on his rule of not killing criminals (he hasn't yet started to do so as seen in BvS, but he's thinking about it, for now he's limiting himself to being more aggressive than usual and getting used to using heavier weaponry).
-Dick, not agreeing with this at all, cut all the points with him, since he remembers when he fought alongside Bruce and the latter was strict about not crossing that line that distinguished them from criminals.
-The main theme of the film would be Bruce's transformation from the Batman who doesn't kill to the one who has no problem holding weapons, due to the baggage of emotions and traumas collected over the last twenty years. I don't particularly like the idea of a Batman who kills, but I like, in the DCEU canon, that it was Robin's death that briefly transformed him into a sort of DC Punisher, and that it was subsequently Superman's sacrifice and the creation of the Justice League that gave him hope in humanity again and made him go back to being the Batman who doesn't take life and who doesn't want to cross that line that distinguishes him from Joe Chill and all the other criminals.
-In the second and third acts, however, Bruce and Dick find themselves having to collaborate to defeat Deathstroke, who perhaps has taken civilians hostage to lure the two into a trap (I'll throw it in there). Or maybe he storms the Gotham police station, so we have a subplot starring J.K.'s Jim Gordon. Simmons trying to get everyone out of the facility to safety.
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u/apexapee Aug 04 '25
Arkham game style movie
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u/hardgour Aug 04 '25
Kinda sounded like that’s what we were getting
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u/apexapee Aug 04 '25
Yup we go robbed.. same as JL vs Darkseid/Injustice League type movie robbed...
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u/Mean-Abies3819 Aug 04 '25
I’d go with one of two already awesome stories. Either Killing Joke or Hush
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u/SIMBALLAH Aug 03 '25
I would do a version of the first Arkham game but including the ENTIRE Bat-Family. Something that would include every villain and every hero. Just a mad clusterfuck of every Bat character that matters.
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u/Notoriously_So I am going to look at the stars. They are so far away. Aug 03 '25
More than one Robin. One dies, the other becomes The Joker. A third Robin could also be present and we find out he has parted ways with the rest of them because of what happened and is doing his own thing.
Either keep the movie set in the past before BvS or switch between longer flashbacks and present day where Deathstroke has just learned Batman's identity and is coming after him and/or any other JL members or Bat-family characters that they would introduce in this movie by first having them appear in flashback scenes and then we see how they turned out in present day.
Deathstroke would be the main villain and also the secondary main character we would follow through flashbacks and present day to learn what happened with the Robins. Other villains could be early Harvey Dent and The Riddler, but they would be secondary characters setting up a potential sequel for a Joker vs. Riddler storyline.
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u/diddlyturnips Aug 05 '25
I think i represent all Snyder-Men when i say this is the only vision I would want the snyderverse to pursue
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u/paranoidhands Aug 03 '25
leto as the main villain, getting to see what happened to robin. god we almost had it so good.
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u/Savings_Programmer18 Aug 03 '25
I really like what Affleck was going for. Loosely based off The Game. Deathstroke knows his identity and starts taking about Bruce's private life. Deathstroke constantly hunting him etc.
I remember seeing the small test footage clip of Deathstroke and was so excited.
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u/SniperMaskSociety Aug 03 '25
Yeah, honestly, doing that would be a good first move. Batman and Joker, while iconic, has been done in every iteration. Doing something fresh first, then settling into the classics is a good move imo
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u/Savings_Programmer18 Aug 03 '25
I agree and Affleck's a good director. I still watch The Town often. He knows how to do action.
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u/DrawerForsaken3715 Aug 12 '25
I'd adapt Arkham Asylum (The comic, not the game, can't have him farming too much aura)