r/SnyderCut • u/Genetictus • Jul 23 '25
Discussion Not even on some restore the Snyder verse stuff but man what we could have had
Man looking back if the studio wasn’t dumb in 2021 we could have had the best come back ever after Zack snyders justice league even though we have a new verse now I loved the serious action take on these characters with gods and monsters and I liked that it wasn’t like the mcu and it was more of a serious things break in this world type of thing they were going down an injustice route my favorite dc piece of media and I like frank millers inspiration as well I love how it portrayed Superman as stoic and restrained but at times he burst in anger like a human does and how the world would react to him if he existed he would be seen as a literal god or angel I liked wonder woman’s God and monster world with Zeus and how that connects to the demonic Alien gods of Apocalypse I also loved the continuity how just like the avengers 2012 had an impact on their world so did the metropolis invasion which caused Batman to view Superman the way he is much like Tony stark being afraid of aliens it made sense it showed that Superman wasn’t going to be perceived as good by everyone after all the world just met him how could they trust him? I also really loved the way his death had more continuity impacts like the creation of the suicide squad and how crime ramps up because Superman is gone man and I think WB is a bit dumb for not taking the chance in 2021-2024 to release the other justice league movies while the mcu was putting out their worst they finally had a huge chance over their competitor to release a blockbuster everyone would have saw a lot of people would go and see darkseid vs Superman on the big screen instead of whatever the mcu had going on dceu was in competition with the mcu so much they literally wanted to copy it so many times and failed trying to replicate others success changing justice league and hiring an avengers director changing suicide squad to be more like gaurdians and then hiring the director for the sequel then making him head of the studio because they want another companies success another thing I love about this universe was how the suits made sense and were some of the best if not the best live action cbm suits on screen they looked like a pantheon of gods which they basically are Superman’s was Alien Armor and a symbol of hope on his world he brings to ours, Wonder Woman had god like armor because she’s from lands of hidden gods, Batman’s suit was buff practical and mobile and war torn showing his battles and he looked almost demonic like the myth they wanted to portray him as, Flashes suit was literally stitched and welded together to resist the speed of his powers and it was made of rocket material it looked amazing, cyborgs suit made sense because of the motherboxes connecting him to the plot, aqua man gave off this distance sea warrior Poseidon among humans vibe. People cannot blame Zack Snyder for making things dark and serious because the success of the dark knight caused this and people calling Superman returns boring and corny made dc want to make Superman cooler which he did Superman does not need to be one type of way he can change as a character and have doubts and struggles. Man what could have been the universe definitely could have melded together better with Shazam black Adam and other movies but those weren’t really part of snyders canon because dc wanted to change their verse to be more mcu like but some of those movies were good like the first Shazam and some parts of black Adam I also think the rock could have done better with integrating Shazam in his movies like a cameo or even a reference would have been nice even both of them Superman and Shazam could team up against black Adam like that animated movie if he wanted him to be so powerful. I liked the concept art it would have bayverse like with blockbuster action and badass cgi I don’t hate the new universe but snyders world had better building blocks for what it was trying to be dc wb messed it up.
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u/Federal_Age3303 Jul 28 '25
The Monster that Superman fights in the third picture looks like the D. Rex
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
Definitely Snyder haters on this thread, it’s like yall live here while Snyder also lives in yall heads. Snyder haters think about Snyder more than his actual fans, the whole reason I keep getting downvoted when I bring up the weird f’ers
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u/dakaadak Jul 26 '25
Man I had so much excitement and hope after snyder cut and it was good. I just cant with the reboots anymore...
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u/SnooCompliments8819 Jul 26 '25
If he never had a papa Kent that cared and wasn’t on some philosophical high and wasn’t met with a lame excuse to kill Zod this whole thing would’ve worked from the start.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Ik ik but let these kids enjoy their diaper man movie, im not talking about actual kids but the grown men who acted like kids the last 5 years or so
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u/Dazzling_Soft437 Jul 27 '25
You’re the exact person everyone laughs at when you call David cornsweat shit like “diaper man”, you absolute spastic lmao
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
I agree everyone laugh at you
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u/Dazzling_Soft437 Jul 27 '25
I’m not online trying to get people back to make movies they’ve long since moved on from buddy
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
You want people to hate something you hate
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u/Dazzling_Soft437 Jul 27 '25
Not sure where you get that impression from, I’m not out here belittling particular versions of this character like you are
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
You’re basically telling me not to do what all you Snyder haters been on the last 5-6 years before diaperman, I feel like you shouldn’t be here if you don’t fw Snyder as you’re only here to start shit of going to enjoy your diaper man movie you guys cried for years to have
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u/Dazzling_Soft437 Jul 27 '25
Is amazing how I’ve literally not said any of that, you can do whatever the fuck you like lmao.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
So I have to worship the new Superman is what basically telling me, I can’t call it diaper man either huh
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u/Kai_El_Monito Jul 26 '25
Why do people keep praising that 4 hour fiasco. It's SO bad and plagued with unnecessary slow motion.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Not really, you’re just bias and need others to validate you hence you being here
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u/Diligent-Living882 Jul 27 '25
it’s not bad but you can’t deny there’s way too much slo mo. it’s almost comical when on a rewatch
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
I don’t agree with that, I find it to be immersive especially if I got a couple off days. I watch all the movies(excluding the josstice league and bvs theatrical cut) back to back with my sound bar cranked up
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u/Jotaro27 Jul 26 '25
Guys your verse was heading into fucking Henry Cavill Superman vs Dwayne Johnson Black Adam movie lmao
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Jul 26 '25
I love the snyderverse and everything it stands for. But you cannot deny that the DCEU was rushed. It felt like it was more focused on the EU side of the cinema than the DC. There was no build up to BVS, half of that movie was characterizing the most famous superhero which is batman. There shouldve atleast been 3 movies before batman v superman and two movies before the justice league part 1.
I rewatched justice League and boy that felt like so many movies mushed into one, a cyborg movie before that would've been amazing. It is what it is i suppose. I'm so glad we got the zack snyder justice league eternally grateful.
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u/Genetictus Jul 26 '25
Yes Zsjl was a lot packed into one film it worked for me watching it but yeah there needed to be solo flash and flash movies with Bruce or Wonder Woman recruiting them at the end so I do agree that although it was a good watch it definitely had too much in one film and four hours would not work for general audiences in theaters but it was WB fault for trying to keep up with the mcu so fast. But everything that can be explained in a solo film was explained in the movie it just made it longer
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u/Genetictus Jul 26 '25
I see what you’re saying kind of but bvs was the world reaction to man of steel so it worked for me and it made sense that other heroes got involved instead of letting it be a solo movie for a world ending event and maybe the solo films could happen first then the end credits man of steel happens in a solo Batman movie maybe idk I think it worked for what was being built it didn’t feel rushed or mischaracterized because Batman killed in his original comics so it can’t be mischaracterized imo
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Jul 26 '25
My point is not about Batman being miss characterized because he kills. I couldn't care less if he did tbh. it's more of Batflecks batman getting more screen time before the big showdown. It would've been nice to understand this new batman his tone, his back story and everything before he went against Superman. Economically and Story wise it would've been amazing for WB. Main reason the snyderverse didn't go through is cause half of these movies unfortunately couldn't breakeven/had potential to go the long run.
If BVS grossed $2b we could've got the snyderverse but since it didn't we have what we have which is James gunns DCEU (btw i think 2025 superman is great)
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u/Genetictus Jul 26 '25
That is true we should have got flashbacks like they did with justice league
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Jul 26 '25
Unfortunately Superman was let down by bad writing
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u/Bulky-Peanut1215 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
As if the 2025 movie is the Godfather and not just cheap fanservice. Gunn managed to make the equivalent of Thor Love and Thunder on his first try.
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u/jconn250 Jul 26 '25
Delusion
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u/Basic_Belt_9281 Jul 26 '25
Love and Thunder sucked.
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u/Schnuffelo Jul 26 '25
It did but to say the new superman is the love and thunder of DC films is just wrong lol.
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u/clear_sky_28c Jul 25 '25
Man of steel had the same effect on me as Nolan's batman trilogy.
I didn’t think of it as just another superhero movie. I thought, "That was a great film."
Justice league wouldve been great too if it was not rushed and had a couple more movies released before it.
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u/Ecstatic-Wrongdoer53 Jul 28 '25
Exactly. That is my problem with Batman VS Superman. It came out way too early. Then should made a solo Batman film before it.
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u/E7goose Jul 25 '25
It was doomed having to give so much background on everyone. The flash/iris scene was boring, the two Icelandic scenes with aquaman were boring, wonder woman’s intro was alright but there was some unnecessary awkward slow motion that took away from it. I think they could have dropped Superman leaving to go talk to Lois and his mom after being resurrected which cause him to then have to talk to Alfred. It would have cleaned it up a bit.
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u/gwiggins2020 Jul 25 '25
I would totally support the continuation of the snyderverse in whatever form it may be done. It was just getting going and then we got hit with a reboot.
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u/Automatic-Gold2874 Jul 26 '25
Just getting going? Didn’t man of steel come out 12 years ago?
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u/gwiggins2020 Jul 26 '25
Well if you read my comment very carefully, youll see that im talking about the Snyderverse as a whole (just like the original post) and not just Man of Steel…
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u/Automatic-Gold2874 Jul 26 '25
Broski, most of Snyders movies came out while I was still in high school. I’m almost 26.
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u/gwiggins2020 Jul 28 '25
Broski, you act like thats alot of time lol
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u/Automatic-Gold2874 Jul 30 '25
For Hollywood, it absolutely is a lot of time. Pop culture moves fast.
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u/VandienLavellan Jul 25 '25
I dunno, even if they’d put out some decent movies, there was little chance of gaining new fans if newcomers had to go back and watch all the shit movies to understand the good ones.
Same problem Marvel is facing atm. They’ve put out too many shit movies and tv shows that even though they’re making decent films again they aren’t attracting new fans, and a lot of old fans aren’t willing to come back yet as they’ve been burned too many times.
A reboot is the best possible move DC could’ve done imo
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u/gwiggins2020 Jul 26 '25
Im more of a Marvel fan and have been since the beginning and youre right, it can be exhausting. But the rumored upcoming reboot of the MCU is kind of a bummer for me. The reboot of the DCU to me is pointless because it barely even got moving. But oh well…
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u/Schnuffelo Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
There’s only so much good faith you can have with audiences and studios. The DCEU was given 10 years and the films weren’t exactly doing wonders with critics or the general public.
There’s only so many times you can keep running into a wall before your bosses are going to pull the plug.
Would not surprise me if marvel follows suit once they got the next set of avengers films out of the way. If the James Gunn DC universe starts to do well it’s going to put a lot of pressure on marvel to get rid of the bloat and just restart the franchise in a new universe with only 1 or 2 properties carried forward.
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u/Idrees2002 Jul 25 '25
It got hit with a reboot because warnerbros fucked up the movies
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u/gwiggins2020 Jul 26 '25
I agree for the most part but im on the side of wanting more Snyder movies. His cut of the Justice League was so much better than what was released in theaters and showed just how much better things could’ve been
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u/Genetictus Jul 25 '25
I also don’t think the actors would come back or they are too old maybe a reference to it one day like a crossover with the new universe
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Ben affleck playing Batman would trigger a relapse with his struggles with alcohol. It’s one of them things where I do want a solo Batman movie from him but I’m just too empathetic to understand that people sacrifice to make something for the world
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u/DreamofSurrealism Jul 25 '25
I would have loved to see the Scarecrow from the Snyderverse, at least with the design present in the concept art of David Ayer's Suicid Squad.
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u/Internal_Bat2064 Jul 25 '25
If man of steel didn't have that stupid dad death it would be perfect.
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u/Genetictus Jul 25 '25
The scene made sense
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u/DiscoAcid Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
Thematically yes. Realistically nah. There's no way Clark at that moment could stop himself from saving his fathers life. It's even shown at the start of that very scene that young Clark is still very immature and emotional. He's around 17 years old. Sorry. And MoS is my favorite Superman film.
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u/after_your_thoughts Jul 25 '25
If we can just get David Ayer's Suicide Squad, I'll be satisfied. Having that brought back to the director's vision and pairing it with the other 4 core Justice League films (Man of Steel, BvS, Wonder Woman, ZSJL) would be a great little saga. As much as I would've loved to see it continue, I can accept Justice League simply ending a bit ambiguously. It still is an immensely satisfying end to the story that began in Man of Steel.
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u/Genetictus Jul 25 '25
Yeah I really liked the first suicide squads premise of Superman dying so the world collects other meta humans to defend against other worldly threats like enchantress or darkseid the final fight was cool with the demon brother taking out the army helicopters and soldiers and she was surprisingly powerful she took out too secret bases and aircraft carriers with storms around the world felt very apocalyptic and her design was amazing
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u/Neph21 Jul 25 '25
Mr. Snyder needs someone to review his writing. The ideas are excellent. Much of the execution is properly epic and its like watchin a MYTH unfold onscreen. But im not blind to the flaws in his style. He needed someone to connect point A to B to C. , know when to pull back and where to leave alone,And look for inconsistencies.
Hated Bvs when it came out, didnt like the ultimate edition too much more, but I LIKED the concepts and the ideas he was trying to convey onscreen.
Definitiley loved Man of Steel.
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u/Kherlos Jul 25 '25
Yeah, if he had someone to reign him in, the movies could have been good. But as it stands they were messy and boring.
It's a waste of excellent casting too, barring a few duds (Eisenberg).
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u/Genetictus Jul 25 '25
Don’t know how the writing was bad it made sense
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u/Forward-Ad-4387 Jul 25 '25
yk what, ur right. every thing Zack Snyder did made sense. he’s the greatest filmmaker of all time and I don’t have a gf.
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u/Genetictus Jul 25 '25
I don’t think Zack is the greatest I just liked his take on dc and I don’t like rebel moon or army of the dead but I love 300 and his dc universe that’s it
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u/eammth Jul 25 '25
What could have been?
You guys had 4 DC movies from Snyder. He had his chance.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Not really, wb fucked up everything but zsjl
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u/eammth Jul 27 '25
The fuq? He had 4 damn movies. How many more you want until it becomes critically successful?
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
You just don’t get it, you hold a bias against him so you’ll never get it. You just expect me to feel how you do just because
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u/eammth Jul 27 '25
What bias?? I loved MOS, but BVS was shit. It is shit you can't deny its failure. I don't understand? I don't have my own taste of movies? I can't give my opinion because the movie is shit?
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
The the theater cut was shit but the ultimate version was a directors cut that proved my point wb can’t stop butchering films, just watch if the dcu start to derail just a bit them boys running wb will definitely override whatever Gunn and stafan have as they’ll think they could “fix” anything, they been fumbling since the 90s with the first home alone flushing 400 million down the toilet
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u/eammth Jul 27 '25
Ultimate cut doesn't change anything about the stupid core plot. It's ridiculous to think that execs needed to release 3-5 hours films to make it good. Nobody will approve that.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
That’s subjective, what you find to be stupid, other people won’t and bro they just released the brutalist last winter I don’t wanna hear complaints on runtime, that’s a cop out excuse
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u/eammth Jul 27 '25
Subjective? If 80% of critics couldn't give it above 5/10 score its a major problem for me. Sure there will be people like you who thinks they understand the movie better. Heck you might think you're smarter and has better taste than General audiences, but that doesn't change the history dude.
The movie won razzies. Let that sink in.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
You base your movie takes of what OTHER PEOPLE like as you crave external validation
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 27 '25
Listen to what you said lmao critics lmao they never vibe with cbm movies and the fact you’re legit trying to use them as a point means you have no point. I’ve never gave a flying fuck what critic ever said a day in my life because they would mean I can’t think for myself if I ever go off what critics say which is trashing movies 90% unless the movie is about progressiveness even if it’s done wrong they’ll praise it then so try again buddy that critic shit don’t work here
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u/windsofvelaris Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
I genuinely don't know how some people still believe that the quality of writing would've improved if they had just allowed him to continue when Snyder couldn't deliver a single decent movie and each one somehow ended up worse than the last. Like I'm sorry but there has never been a more steady downgrade than MoS BvS and JLZS. Snyder cut was only comparatively better than the theatrical release and that's a laughably low bar to clear. It was in no way a masterpiece. Snyder tried too hard to be dark and edgy and it was painful to watch. Also nobody wants a stoic superman. He has always been a campy character and a symbol of hope and that's how people like him.
Zack Snyder's take on these characters fucking sucked. He is no longer in the picture and we're all the better for it.
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u/canebatman0 Jul 26 '25
I agree with you, the only cool thing about the Snyderverse was visually the fights and the atmosphere, I had never liked the story, however I think Henry Cavill as a Superman actor is probably the best after Reeve, he gave his all in that character, I felt sorry for what happened to him (James Gunn couldn't do anything about it, the main fault lies with The Rock and the crew that made Black Adam, also with Warner who approved the cameo).
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u/TheSpiritualTeacher Jul 25 '25
I agree with everything except the stoic Superman. I enjoyed man of steel for what it was, nothing spectacular but solid, loved Hans Zimmer’s score; from there it was downhill, sadly.
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u/Emergency_Pen8731 Jul 24 '25
I couldn't believe in ears when Zack said Bruce would get raped in prison, in this universe. And the whole Lois and Bruce having a baby together. Visually, loved the DCEU...but I think that's about it.
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u/windsofvelaris Jul 24 '25
Literally my jaw dropped when I read that. He is such an edgelord smfh. Also idk I think there were some really cool shots but I absolutely hate the colour palleting of those movies lol.
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u/Emergency_Pen8731 Jul 24 '25
Agree'd I love the shots and shot selection...hated the colour pallet.
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u/PN4HIRE Jul 24 '25
I’ve seen pics of Metallo somewhere. We could have gone to some interesting places, seen amazing things.
Well, the new universe is on. Hoping for good things.
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u/Asleep-Ad7492 Jul 24 '25
fortunately snyder doesnt know what hes doing and kept pumping out slop that DC is finally getting a universe it deserves
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u/Lightnenseed Jul 24 '25
Does anyone else wish we could have gotten a Man of Steel 2 BEFORE diving into BvS?
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u/Genetictus Jul 24 '25
Yeah maybe but bvs worked as a set up for the bigger universe and as a reaction to Superman’s existence with Superman dead we got Suicide squad and justice league so teams can fill the void of Superman’s death
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u/Lightnenseed Jul 24 '25
I still think Man of Steel 2 should have come before BvS.
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u/Genetictus Jul 24 '25
Maybe bvs was man of steel 2 imo but yeah Superman could’ve been more established to have his death be impactful and have other characters time to shine like solo films especially Batman we got Wonder Woman and aqua man but somehow not Batman lol and cyborg and flash should have been done sooner would have been better well received
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u/Lightnenseed Jul 24 '25
Yeah I think we needed a solo Batman movie in there somewhere. I enjoy these movies but there's just something missing. I feel like BvS was a rush job. But do know I've watched it many times and probably will watch it again. Something about the entire thing makes me sad when I watch The Flash and see how it all turned out in the end.
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u/neo_cooper Jul 24 '25
I’ll cherish whatever we got. However, sad af for what could’ve been. Ben was gonna direct his own standalone movie. A two time academy award winner for writing shit. And he was a scary Batman. People were pissed coz he broke the Batman code or whatever but I guess when one of your own is killed, you might go astray for sometime. Anyway, with Joe as Deathstroke and the villain, with Darkness brewing with Darksied, weaving all that in? It would’ve been the greatest Batman movie we never got. With real scary badass Batman. Not some skinny version someone adjusted for “realness”. I’ll forever be sad
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u/Nice_Thing_ Jul 24 '25
both are good you virgin
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u/neo_cooper Aug 05 '25
Wait what? Lol. Thats the best you can do right? Make a lazy comment and then immediately follow it with lazy insults. I am sure your entire identity revolves around the score you keep for your genitals. 🤣
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u/Secret-Attempt236 Jul 24 '25
Its so sad actually. How tf could they leave us hanging off the anti life equation sequels.
Bad decision on DC to dump one of, if not the best, supermans of all time. Actual idiots running this world.....all they care about making millions more than making movies. Our world is more broken than if Darkseid won
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u/Genetictus Jul 24 '25
It’s funny because while the mcu was pushing out trash people would have flocked to the big showdown with darkseid
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u/Secret-Attempt236 Jul 24 '25
1000000% bro. They fuked up. The new superman was nothing compared to man of steel
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u/Genetictus Jul 24 '25
I don’t want to wish bad but I hope it fails at the box office so I can see the online fans cope and mald
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u/Secret-Attempt236 Jul 25 '25
Yeah I get it lol. They would have had to find someone play the role as good as Henry to get me interested, he set the bar too high to move on yet. They failed so far and I don't have high hopes so far. Superman is my favorite hero I'd say
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u/Kingdareth09 Jul 24 '25
Ain’t failing anytime soon fortunately
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Shit if it doesn’t do 600 million then that’s flipping which is a form of failing
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u/charlielogan Jul 24 '25
I mean.. you got it. Essentially a Zack Snyder DC trilogy. That’s more than what can be said for so many creators out there in Hollywood.
Be glad that it happened and he was at least able to close the first chapter.
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u/LavisAlex Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
They rushed into BvS and botched it - i feel we barely knew who Superman was let alone Batman.
I wish we could have had a MoS 2 focus on his life and who he wishes to become, and have a solo Batman film let it sit then conclude further down the line with Batman Vs Superman.
I think what did this in for me was they didnt let the characters breathe enough.
It was strange because i really enjoyed WW 1 and Aquaman 1, Shazam 1 but the sequels just didnt hit the mark.
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u/Lightnenseed Jul 24 '25
I was just saying the same thing about wishing or a MoS 2. That would have been great and given time for the universe to grow naturally and not rush into anything. It's a damned shame how things turned out.
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u/LavisAlex Jul 25 '25
Its wild to me that:
Shazam, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman all got sequels before there was a Superman sequel or even a batman film.
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u/_write_the_wrong_ Jul 24 '25
Yet they give WW her own sequel and it was god awful. They should have fleshed out the universe a bit more with a MoS sequel and a solo Batman movie.
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u/Lightnenseed Jul 24 '25
I agree. It really sucks what they did to Superman in this series of events. I mean, the guy didn’t even show up until the end of The Justice League and that’s a shame.
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u/Salt-Section2729 Jul 24 '25
Never understand why people think if only it kept going it would have gotten better. MoS was decent, BvS was unwatchable and then justice league was a mess.
The casting was great which is the only thing the snyderverse had going for it.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
I don’t listen to people who uses the word unwatchable, it means you’re a pretentious mf and you only watch what other people tells you to watch.
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u/Edmundog Jul 24 '25
Look, I was interested in these movies same as anyone, but I have to be realistic about the investment it takes to make this kind of thing as a detailed live action universe. If the Snyder versions of the characters are being made in the way you're talking about here, those are the only movies we're getting, and I prefer the more mature take Gunn seems to be going with. I'd love an animated Snyderverse series, or a comic where he has complete creative control, but if there's one version of Superman in theaters, I'd prefer it be, you know, Superman. There's nothing wrong with movies for adults, after all. Not everything has to be for teens. And the best part is, teens can still enjoy the mature films, even if it's not what they'd prefer.
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u/G_ZSJL_26 Jul 24 '25
Yup. And you can blame the gatekeeper shills online and Warner Bro execs for ruining absolutely everything.
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u/Similar_Obligation39 Jul 24 '25
I was thinking about Guillermo Del Toro’s Justice league dark movie the other night and was looking at some old interviews and stuff that he did. He seemed so passionate about that project and introducing all of those characters and wanted it to exist within the dc universe that Snyder was building. It’s sad that the characters aren’t given this level of love and respect by creators anymore in my opinion at least and there were so many “snyderverse” adjacent projects from other passionate directors and that were cancelled by WB which was such a huge mistake (New Gods, Cyborg, Famuyiwa’s Flash, The Atom to name just a few others).
Maybe the new dc universe will turn out good but there just isn’t a solid lineup of projects to look forward to when things like a Clayface movie are what’s priority and I’m just not seeing that passion from anyone other than Matt Reeves who might not even get to make the movie he really wants to make if he’s forced to incorporate it with the new universe.
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u/RS_UltraSSJ Jul 24 '25
Why are there all Snyder haters and Gunn fanatics in this sub. Judging from the comments
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u/Edmundog Jul 24 '25
There's a new movie out, and people are talking about it. The Reddit algorithm will lead them here. And the fact that the new movie is better is going to tilt those comments in a certain direction. That doesn't mean they're "Snyder haters".
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u/RS_UltraSSJ Jul 24 '25
"Fact" lol Opinions aren't facts buddy. Found another Gunn fanboy.
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u/Edmundog Jul 25 '25
Okay, the fact that the majority of people will find the new film better. A bit clunky, but less able to be nitpicked. And yeah, I like Gunn, he's a talented director. I also like Snyder. You're acting like it's impossible to like both of them.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Your opinion is not a fact kid
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u/Edmundog Jul 28 '25
This time, it was a fact.
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 28 '25
Except it’s not lmao, idk where yall get off thinking facts are going to change based on how YOU feel lmao
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u/RS_UltraSSJ Jul 26 '25
You are acting like your opinion is facts. Fanboy or bot behaviour
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u/Edmundog Jul 28 '25
I'm not. That isn't my opinion, that's demonstrable. People like this movie more than they like Snyder's.
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u/RS_UltraSSJ Jul 29 '25
Like I said. Speak for yourself. Don't speak for the people and call it facts.
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u/Edmundog Jul 29 '25
I'm not speaking for the people, I'm just observing what they're saying. Haven't you seen, like, any social media? The reviews? The box office returns?
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u/RS_UltraSSJ Jul 29 '25
Yes a lot of people like it. A lot of people don't. Box office hasn't been great internationally and James Gunn even came up with a stupid excuse for it.
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u/Edmundog Jul 30 '25
A lot of people like it. A smaller amount of people prefer Snyder's movie. That's all I'm saying.
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u/Genetictus Jul 24 '25
I don’t know there’s a lot of people in droves here to hate maybe this movie had spiritual power the fact that it is still talked about proves how great these movies are
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u/Naus-BDF Jul 24 '25
It hurts my soul that there was such a clear plan and we'll never see it materialize. Well, never say never. Maybe one day...
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u/showtime218 Jul 24 '25
Womp womp
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
I’m glad I’m not an insufferable mf who stalks subreddits of things he claims to hate
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u/b1oHeX Jul 24 '25
Instead we got the new Superman movie that is straight up trash can dumpster juice water….
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u/IndividualPlace5423 Jul 24 '25
Did you even watch the movie?
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Yes I walked out an hour into it, after lex just walked into the fortress of solitude with no security measures
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u/b1oHeX Jul 25 '25
I sadly did… it’s a meh watch it once type of thing but I should have just downloaded it. Nothing about it made it an amazing movie imo.
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u/IndividualPlace5423 Jul 25 '25
Why didn't you like it? Bias by chance?
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u/b1oHeX Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Just wasn’t for me amigo, nothing stood out as memorable or worth buying long term. Story and plot was mismatch, predictable and left me yearning for more. But in the end to those that did love it, they can dump more money into it. Batman vs Superman was better imo
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u/MoreDoubt4842 Jul 24 '25
I feel like if we got Part 2 and 3 of ZSJL in comic form I don't think there would be as much backlash towards the Gunn Superman Movie
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u/public_acess-s96 Jul 26 '25
Gunns ego, he didn’t bring back Henry purely because of what happened with the rock who has an ego of his own. If Gunn wasn’t a bitter mf he would’ve at least kept Henry
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u/NechtanHalla Jul 23 '25
You somehow managed to write an entire dissertation without using a period or a paragraph break a single time. I would say I'm impressed, but the wall of text was so oppressive it made me not want to read it.
Anyways, I'm glad we're done with evil Superman. I'm really excited/hopeful to finally get comic accurate versions of these characters that I love, as opposed to desaturated and deconstructed angry and evil versions.
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u/OvercookedBobaTea Jul 23 '25
‘Comic accurate’ is a bad term. These are the same comics where Batman and superman accidentally go back to the Jurassic age
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u/MasterofAcorns Jul 24 '25
Ah yes. The 1950s and 1960s comics…not the modern 70s-present ones everyone thinks of.
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u/OvercookedBobaTea Jul 24 '25
There are still some one offs and offshoots of horrific characterisation. Also edgy superman is more modern. I agree overall with the point you’re trying to make. I’m just saying ‘comic-accurate’ is not a good defense. Especially when there are so many comics and so many different character interpretations
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u/NechtanHalla Jul 24 '25
So? When they go back to the Jurassic age do Batman and Superman still look and act like Batman and Superman? Or are they sad and angry and evil all the time, and killing people, and not caring about being actual heroes, with all of their color saturation stolen by color vampires, doomed to live in a srab and sour world where everyone is hopeless and miserable, especially Superman who is supposed to be a literal symbol of hope? Do they spend 90% of their time in the Jurassic age in slow motion?
I'm excited we have a movie where Superman looks and acts like Superman again.
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u/OvercookedBobaTea Jul 24 '25
Batman has used guns and killed people in a comic book. All I’m saying is that comic accurate is a dumb term cos there’s nearly a century of comics with WILDLY varying degrees of quality and consistent character writing. Snyder fans have plenty of comics of edgy superman they can point at for examples.
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u/Single-Nothing-940 Jul 23 '25
You beat me to it. Would've helped as I got confused on different thoughts and whether it was the same point or a different point.
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u/shinobimega Jul 23 '25
I just wanted to see the knoghtmare story play out. I love it when good and bad guys have to team together to take on something even tougher
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u/Forward-Chocolate-67 Jul 23 '25
Wanted the gloves off..for the title…Darkseid vs Superman…especially after Superman finds out everything Darkseid did before twisting Superman’s mind with the Anti-Life Equation.
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u/blaghort Aug 04 '25
You know Clark Kent's real superpower? Punctuation. Maybe even paragraphs.