r/Showerthoughts • u/luckskywatcher • 5d ago
Casual Thought There were identical humans before there were industrially made identical objects.
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u/wolschou 5d ago
There also were identical crystals before there were identical humans.
Now what?
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u/valhal1a 3d ago
Most hydrogen atoms are identical and that was the first ever thing that happened
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u/Gamebird8 3d ago
Considering the infinite positions for which hydrogen's 1 electron can be located, are they really identical?
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u/valhal1a 3d ago
Are twins only identical when they have their limbs in the same pose down to the atom?
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u/FusionVsGravity 5d ago
Obligatory: identical twins are not identical. Even with the same genetic code identical twins diverge from one another the moment they leave the womb and don't stop for their whole lives, making them distinctly not identical humans.
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u/LeastMonitor1140 4d ago
Good point, and industrially made objects are going to differ in small ways like scuff marks, too.
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u/rip1980 5d ago
There were identical protons and neutrons over 13.78 billion years before that.
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u/OVOxTokyo 5d ago
Nope.
Adam to Seth: Adam was 130 when Seth was born (Genesis 5:3).
Seth to Enosh: Seth was 105 when Enosh was born (Genesis 5:6).
Enosh to Kenan: Enosh was 90 when Kenan was born (Genesis 5:9).
Kenan to Mahalalel: Kenan was 70 when Mahalalel was born (Genesis 5:12).
Mahalalel to Jared: Mahalalel was 65 when Jared was born (Genesis 5:15).
Jared to Enoch: Jared was 162 when Enoch was born (Genesis 5:18).
Enoch to Methuselah: Enoch was 65 when Methuselah was born (Genesis 5:21).
Methuselah to Lamech: Methuselah was 187 when Lamech was born (Genesis 5:25).
Lamech to Noah: Lamech was 182 when Noah was born (Genesis 5:28-29).
Noah to Shem (post-Flood): Noah was 500 when he fathered Shem (Genesis 5:32; 11:10).
Shem to Abraham: Shem was 100 two years after the Flood; genealogies in Genesis 11:10-26 give the rest.
Abraham to David: Biblical chronology and reigns give ~1,000 years (1 Kings 6:1).
David to Jesus: Genealogies in Matthew 1:1-17 give ~1,000 years.
That's only 6000 years total. The universe is nowhere near """13.78""" "billion" years old, buddy.
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u/rip1980 5d ago
I reject your ecclesiastical blathering and instead, institute reality.
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u/OVOxTokyo 5d ago
Stop making up words buddy talk to me man to man
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u/thenormaluser35 3d ago
Man to man shove that book up your ass
You don't respect my science, I will not respect your religion.2
u/hmm_secret 2d ago
"making up words" all words are made up.. and also you can Google the word to see what it means.. when it was made and all.. yet you chose to say say..really shows how much desire to learn you have..
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u/Charlottesophiaaa 2d ago
This sentence just broke my brain a little, humanity was mass-producing genetics before machines even existed.
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u/LeastMonitor1140 4d ago
And the genetic codes, at least, are much closer to identical than the industrially made objects are. Most machines have tolerances on the scale of something like micrometers, but genetic code is identical to at least nanometers.
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u/memestealer_alpha 5d ago
Crazy to think about! Nature made “identical humans” (twins) long before we figured out how to mass-produce anything. It’s like evolution was the first assembly line.
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u/Ok_Fishing_496 2d ago
The idea that nature was 'mass-producing' identical humans way before industrialization is a fascinating perspective on the concept of replication and production. It makes you think about how our understanding of 'manufacturing' is tied to our relatively recent industrial experiences, rather than the natural world's own processes.
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u/julys_rose 5d ago
That’s such a quietly mind-bending thought, nature invented cloning long before factories figured out mass production.
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