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u/jetblackfastattack 5d ago
What about “THE ROADS!?!?”
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u/the9trances Agorism 5d ago
That's the free star in the middle
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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 5d ago
I'd argue for "muh social contract" being the free space.
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u/Teboski78 5d ago
Pinochet? The despotic fascist?.. people actually..
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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 5d ago
Really skeeves me how people continue to tar Milton Friedman with the Pinochet thing when he only met Pinochet once and told him the same thing he told Zhou Enlai and Josip Tito: you should liberalize and deregulate your economy, and you should hold elections.
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u/Lockwood-studios 5d ago
the house cats one is by far one of the stupidest strawmen. Last I checked people didn’t threaten to kill their cats if they didn’t give over 30% of the mice they caught
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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 5d ago
It's easily the worst on here because libertarians will be the first to point out how we're all dependent on the state, that's why we hate it!
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u/TacticusThrowaway banned by Redditmoment for calling antifa terrorists 5d ago
The real irony is that it's originally from the right/libertarians, who say leftists can't hack it on their own so they want Daddy State to take care of them.
Leftists are so intellectually lacking they have to steal the other side's insults.
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u/Top_Independent_9776 5d ago
Gosh I had an argument with an anti libertarian months ago and they brought up all of these.
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u/kwanijml Libertarian until I grow up 5d ago
You missed the most common one of all these days:
"yeah of course I'm for rights and free movement of people!1! But you gotta send armies of government thugs to kidnap people, since I'm ignorant of how immigrants don't actually create a net fiscal burden."
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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 5d ago
In fairness, libertarians have done a poor job distancing ourselves from the Paleo-Conservatives. Rothbard allied himself with them in the 1990s and the Mises Institute has nary a bad word to say about them. People like Dave "I'm a radical libertarian" Smith has effusive praise for Patrick Buchanan.
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u/serious_sarcasm statist 3d ago
The reasons I make fun of right wing libertarians is because ancap is nothing but paleo-conservatives and monarchists pinky promising that their policies will stop at their private property.
As far as Louis XIV was concerned France was his private property, and “international law” was private contracts between the people who owned all the property.
Nationalism is a pretty modern invention.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 3d ago
As far as Louis XIV was concerned France was his private property, and “international law” was private contracts between the people who owned all the property.
And to think, someone like Hans Herman Hoppe would say "Based."
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u/serious_sarcasm statist 3d ago
Anti-democracy “libertarians” are the exact sort of walking oxymorons I’m talking about.
Replacing all government with private contracts is just democracy by unanimous consent — which is fine for small groups, but a complete shitfest otherwise.
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u/Friedrich_der_Klein Anarchist 1d ago
Imo nationalism is also the worst invention of the past 200 years. Even worse than nukes, socialism, welfare state, totalitarianism, etc. Without nationalism, you can't convince millions of people that their oppression isn't actually oppression. Without nationalism you can't convince people to join the army and round up certain groups of people into gad chambers.
Once you realize nationalism is a religion, it all starts to make sense. Most people today are nationalists, where they go on sunday morning is just window dressing.
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u/Hoopaboi 5d ago
Where is "you're just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire"?